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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game)
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05/14/06 03:32 AM
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Originally posted by plawrence:
-29 sounds like the record so far. Yeah, Street got TM a -27 on 4/16. Well, I said I'm open to suggestions on how to maybe cut the scores for these BS/L games in half or so.
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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game)
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05/14/06 03:47 AM
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Inreasing the value of saves isn't gonna do much to decrease the value of a BS & Loss. It's just gonna negate it somewhat by putting an even bigger value on converting a save opportunity, and a bigger valueon relief pitching. We've got time yet to figure it out. Originally posted by Just Lou: 2 innings each by Putz and F.R. at least got me in the + side for the day.  Dependng upon how their Offense and RPs do, someone's gonna need to average between about 7-12 FPPG from their SPs to win this thing, I think, It's nice to not be in the minus column for the day, but getting 5 points from 4 starts today you gotta figure cost you maybe 25-30 points or more.
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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game)
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05/14/06 04:17 AM
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I think we need to reduce the BS/L even more than that.
The problem is the negative value of the BS and the loss.
There's nothing "positive" that a pitcher can do to make up for that, like getting a W and a save in the same game.
Now that I'm keeping track of the games with a BS and a L, we'll be able to see just how much impact they actually do have.
As I said somewhere before, when it does happen I think it's mostly a matter of luck, since the top closers all have a conversion rate of about 85% or better.
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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game)
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05/14/06 06:20 AM
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This is starting to sound familiar....  As I;ve said before, I think a BS should be worth 3x what a S is, because all the decent closers convert way more than 85% of their opportunities. So having a scoring system where the pitcher needs to convert about 75% of his chances to "break even" seems about right to me. Don't worry; We'll figure something out.
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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game)
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05/14/06 07:24 AM
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Saturday Scores
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TM 9 30 2 43 1 3 76
DA 9 43 2 50 1 -21 72
JL 8 50 4 5 5 -1 54
LZ 5 20 1 -3 3 16 33
DB 9 22 0 0 3 10 32
CC 6 31 0 0 0 0 31
DJ 8 25 0 0 0 0 25
PL 9 27 0 0 1 -11 16
JG 8 17 1 8 2 -25 0
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JL 323 1173 49 352 85 257 1782
PL 313 1157 41 395 78 117 1669
TM^ 291 1044 42 456 69 163 1663
JG 323 993 43 461 73 172 1626
CC 310 1130 53 352 69 37 1519
DJ 302 1076 38 367 30 72 1515
DA^ 268 984 36 349 63 82 1415
DB 317 1292 37 -34 82 156 1414
LZ 292 962 26 307 42 74 1343Halladay 34 Bonderman 32 Cordero -29 Baez -21 Dempster -20
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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game)
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05/14/06 09:34 AM
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*cough*-29*cough* :p 
I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey!  lol Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin My DVDs | Facebook | Godfather Filming Locations
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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game)
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05/14/06 10:26 PM
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Not only did I start the wrong pitcher, I didn't start the right pitchers either. Ah, well.....it's a looooooooong season. We're not even a quarter of the way through yet.
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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game)
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05/15/06 03:43 AM
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Originally posted by plawrence: Not only did I start the wrong pitcher, I didn't start the right pitchers either. Ahh, what's 55 pts on your PS bench? :p
I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey! lol Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin My DVDs | Facebook | Godfather Filming Locations
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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game)
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05/15/06 04:11 AM
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The saving grace of this game is that even though I didn't get the 55 points, I didn't use two starts either, so when I eventually do use them, you never know.
I mean, it's not like it's necessarily a complete loss.
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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game)
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05/15/06 05:59 AM
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Originally posted by Just Lou:
Thankfully, PL started the wrong pitcher today. :p Originally posted by plawrence: Not only did I start the wrong pitcher, I didn't start the right pitchers either.
Ah, well.....it's a looooooooong season. We're not even a quarter of the way through yet. Originally posted by J Geoff:
Ahh, what's 55 pts on your PS bench? :p Originally posted by plawrence:
The saving grace of this game is that even though I didn't get the 55 points, I didn't use two starts either, so when I eventually do use them, you never know.
I mean, it's not like it's necessarily a complete loss. I'll tell 'ya what.... Shed no tears for me.  (Not that anyone is ever gonna shed any tears for me in any of these games.....) The guy who burned himself badly yesterday is DB, who can't seem to do anything right in the PS Department. Is is because that he's so far behind that no one noticed that he had Andy Pettitte and his 44 points  on his bench yesterday? 
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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game)
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05/15/06 06:59 AM
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Our pitching has really picked up the last four days. Not even counting yesterday's (all scores I post always include players who were in the starting lineup only), benchings by DB (Andy Pettitte: 55) and PL (Mike Maroth and Dan Haren: combined 55), we've hd a very productive past four days: 32 starts, 342 points, 10.69 FPPG, raising our daily average from 8.01 to 8.24, the highest it's been since May 1st. Sunday Scores
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DJ 8 33 2 26 0 0 59
PL 7 37 1 0 4 16 53
JG 8 19 2 29 1 4 52
LZ 5 22 1 18 0 0 40
DB 8 34 0 0 1 -7 27
DA 8 21 0 0 1 3 24
JL 8 20 0 0 1 3 23
TM 9 17 0 0 0 0 17
CC 7 18 1 -4 0 0 14
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JL 331 1193 49 352 86 260 1805
PL 320 1194 42 395 82 133 1722
TM 300 1061 42 456 69 163 1680
JG 331 1012 45 490 74 176 1678
DJ^ 310 1109 40 393 30 72 1574
CC 317 1148 54 348 69 37 1533
DB^ 325 1326 37 -34 83 149 1441
DA 276 1005 36 349 64 85 1439
LZ 297 984 27 325 42 74 1383No one, except the aforementioned guys on the bench. :rolleyes:
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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game)
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05/16/06 05:45 AM
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Monday Scores
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JG 8 50 0 0 1 1 51
DB 3 8 1 30 0 0 38
PL 4 24 0 0 1 10 34
DA 6 15 1 14 1 4 33
CC 7 20 0 0 2 7 27
JL 6 24 0 0 0 0 24
LZ 5 22 1 -3 1 3 22
DJ 2 6 1 14 0 0 20
TM 3 13 0 0 1 -7 6
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JL 337 1217 49 352 86 260 1829
PL 324 1218 42 395 83 143 1756
JG^ 339 1062 45 490 75 177 1729
TM 303 1074 42 456 70 156 1686
DJ 312 1115 41 407 30 72 1594
CC 324 1168 54 348 71 44 1560
DB 328 1334 38 -4 83 149 1479
DA 282 1020 37 363 65 89 1472
LZ 302 1006 28 322 43 77 1405Beckett DB 30
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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game)
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05/17/06 02:14 AM
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Originally posted by Just Lou: What's gotten into JG's team lately? You mean the #2 team tomorrow (most likely)? Must be the manager.... :p
I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey! lol Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin My DVDs | Facebook | Godfather Filming Locations
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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game)
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05/17/06 02:26 AM
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Well, then feel free to accept my trade offer while I'm drunk before I retract it! Edit:Okay, you rejected it... Make a proposal. So then I can reject it back. :p
I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey! lol Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin My DVDs | Facebook | Godfather Filming Locations
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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game)
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05/17/06 02:37 AM
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Originally posted by J Geoff: Well, then feel free to accept my trade offer while I'm drunk before I retract it!
[b]Edit:Okay, you rejected it... Make a proposal. So then I can reject it back. :p [/b] You have to be drunk to think you'd get A-Rod for that. I'll make you a fair offer, but you'll probably reject it.
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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game)
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05/17/06 02:44 AM
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Hey, you said you wanted starting pitching, and offered you the best I had... :p Let's discuss this further after YOU have had a few....
I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey! lol Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin My DVDs | Facebook | Godfather Filming Locations
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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game)
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05/17/06 02:51 AM
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I was just gonna say that's a fairly compeling trade offer... and was gonna ask for 12 hours to consider it... but apparently it may not last that long...! Hmm....
I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey! lol Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin My DVDs | Facebook | Godfather Filming Locations
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