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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game)
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This should cheer CC up a bit....
May 25
Alyson Footer, of Astros.MLB.com, reports Houston Astros 1B Lance Berkman (knee) hyperextended his right knee Thursday, May 25. He left the game in the third inning after irritating his right knee. Berkman said, "Structurally, I think everything is OK. I just missed four or five games [with a sore left hamstring] and here we are, right back in a different type of deal. It's frustrating, because I know I had to fight through a lot of stuff with my knee last year and I was hoping to be able to put it completely behind me now." Manager Phil Garner said Berkman will likely have a "couple of days" off. He will then be evaluated on a day-to-day basis.
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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game)
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Originally posted by Just Lou:
It's bullshit. (PL is) the fucking commissioner, and he's robbing someone that has no idea what they're doing. He's should be preventing crap like this, and yet he's doing it himself. If I'm not gonna cancel trades for no other reason than their lopsidedness, then what do you expect me to do? Sit around and wait for someone else to rob the guy?
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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game)
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LZ 7 31 1 38 1 3 72
JG 9 29 3 20 2 18 67
DA 9 35 2 28 1 0 63
CC 8 37 0 0 3 7 44
DJ 9 35 4 5 0 0 40
DB 8 29 2 23 3 -17 35
TM 8 34 0 0 2 -2 32
JL 9 27 2 -7 2 -1 19
PL 9 35 1 -15 2 -10 10
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JG 423 1368 56 639 98 296 2303
PL 416 1541 54 435 106 200 2176
JL 433 1557 60 342 107 277 2176
TM 390 1417 56 551 89 192 2160
DB 413 1701 52 162 107 209 2072
DJ 398 1361 55 601 38 103 2065
DA 361 1341 48 514 82 144 1999
CC 407 1422 67 474 88 69 1965
LZ 380 1292 36 419 54 114 1825Webb LZ 38 Francis JG -21
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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game)
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05/27/06 12:11 PM
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Were there ever problems with people rejecting trades simply because they didn't want to see a strong team get stronger?
Maybe I'm wrong in thinking that that is what would happen.
But like I said before, about the trade between DB and CC....
You could make a legitimate argument that it's fair, especially if CC believes that Contreras and Pettitte are both about to start heading in the opposite direction.
So in my mind, that makes it unfair to vote against it.
Yet you said you would veto it because you think it's lopsided, and I would vote against it simply because I wouldn't want to see DB's team get any stronger.
Even if the advantage in a trade is tiny, why should I vote to allow a trade that makes the teams which I consider the strongest competition any stronger? Why should anyone for that matter?
How to handle this is certainly a problem, and I'm really not sure that there is a practical solution, unless we have a non-playing commissioner.
And even in that case, if his judgement is wrong he could cost someone the whole game.
What happens (also as I said before) if the trade is dis-allowed and Pettitte proceeds to go 16-4 the rest of the way and Contreras goes 7-12, and Ibanez or Drew (or both) go .320, 30, 100 the rest of the way while Berkman (injured now, BTW) goes .260, 10, 50?
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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game)
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05/27/06 12:19 PM
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Actually, there is a solution:
Limit the league to people that we know for sure are gonna participate and play competitively.
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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game)
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05/27/06 12:22 PM
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Originally posted by plawrence:
Actually, there is a solution:
Limit the league to people that we know for sure are gonna participate and play competitively. There's a good idea! 
I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey!  lol Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin My DVDs | Facebook | Godfather Filming Locations
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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game)
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05/27/06 02:28 PM
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If a pitcher could get a win for only 4 innings, I'd like to see them take Glavine out right now. 4 perfect IPs, 17 FPs. I hope I'm not sorry I traded this guy.  (edit: Perfect game thru 5 IPs now)
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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game)
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05/27/06 03:20 PM
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Originally posted by Tony Mosrite:
didn't I use 7 offensive players yesterday? Yeah, you did, and I see I have you down for 8. Don't worry, though; The Yahoo "count" is the official one, and I check it every few days against what I post to make sure they're in agreement and I adjust the posted standings when they're not.
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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game)
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05/27/06 05:38 PM
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Originally posted by plawrence:
I felt that the Carpenter for A Rod trade gave JL a big advantage, but who am I to make that decision? Carpenter who?  :p 
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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game)
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05/27/06 06:47 PM
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If you told me that Carpenter was gonna get injured, then of course I would have had a slightly different opinion.
And since every start that he misses costs JL a potential 10 points or so (I figure he'll replace Carpenter at 20 FPPG or so with someone else who scores maybe 10 FPPG or so), there's a limit to how many starts he can miss before the advantage in this trade swings to your side almost irrespective of what A Rod does).
So how did you know?
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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game)
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05/27/06 06:57 PM
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Pfft, I don't care about that... A-Rod gave me 17 pts today. :p
I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey! lol Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin My DVDs | Facebook | Godfather Filming Locations
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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game)
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05/27/06 09:18 PM
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I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey! lol Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin My DVDs | Facebook | Godfather Filming Locations
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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game)
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05/28/06 05:06 AM
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JL 9 41 1 18 3 16 75
TM 7 38 2 37 3 -2 73
DB 7 19 1 22 3 17 58
PL 8 12 1 25 1 7 44
JG 8 33 0 0 1 4 37
DJ 5 24 0 0 1 4 28
LZ 8 13 1 9 0 0 22
DA 7 16 0 0 3 3 19
CC 8 25 2 -21 2 11 15
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JG 431 1401 56 639 99 300 2340
JL 442 1598 61 360 110 293 2251
TM^ 397 1455 58 588 92 190 2233
PL 424 1553 55 460 107 207 2220
DB 420 1720 53 184 110 226 2130
DJ 403 1385 55 601 39 107 2093
DA 368 1357 48 514 85 147 1999
CC 415 1447 69 453 90 80 1980
LZ 388 1305 37 428 54 114 1847A Rod JG 17 Bay TM 15 Bedard CC -21
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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game)
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05/29/06 08:31 AM
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Sunday Scores Powered by CC's 3 starts and -55 score, yesterday was our worst day ever for SP scores. 7 starts, -53, -7.57 FPPG, bringing our overall average down to 8.32 FPPG. That makes 47 starts and only 146 points, an average of 3.11 FPPG over the last 5 days since our average reached its season high of 8.86 on 5/23. With more than 1/3 of our maximum number of starts already used (501/1458, 34.4%), we have to average 9.36 FPPG the rest of the way to finish with an average of 9.00 FPPG for the season, and 10.88 FPPG the rest of the way to finish with an average of 10.0  StatMan
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DA 9 51 0 0 2 3 54
DB 9 36 0 0 2 10 46
TM 8 25 3 -7 2 8 26
PL 9 30 1 9 4 -15 24
JL 9 22 0 0 0 0 22
DJ 7 16 0 0 1 1 17
LZ 7 17 0 0 3 -5 13
JG 8 16 0 0 2 -6 10
CC 8 14 3 -55 3 6 -35
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JG 439 1417 56 639 101 294 2350
JL 451 1620 61 360 110 293 2273
TM 405 1480 61 581 94 198 2259
PL 433 1583 56 469 111 192 2244
DB 429 1756 53 184 112 236 2176
DJ 410 1400 55 601 40 108 2109
DA 377 1408 48 514 87 150 2072
CC 423 1461 72 398 93 86 1945
LZ 395 1322 37 428 57 109 1859Renteria DA 16 Valverde PL -18
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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game)
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05/29/06 12:59 PM
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My head's a little foggy and can't think straight, and, the Yahoo game isn't showing anything under Maximums Per Position for Pitchers...
Can someone please clarify:
There is a 162 game limit for all SPs combined, right?
Is there a limit for RPs?? Because if that limit is also 162 games, then after 2 months most of us are already well beyond the halfway point for RPs (if I'm reading RPU correctly)...
I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey! lol Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin My DVDs | Facebook | Godfather Filming Locations
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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game)
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05/29/06 01:12 PM
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Yeah, there's a 162 game limit for all of your SPs combined.
For some odd reason, though, Yahoo doesn't offer that as an option -a maximum number of games started for SPs as they do for other positions - That's why we made "Game Started" a stat category. So Yahoo would keep track of it for us, and you could look up your "official" total anytime you wanted to.
Just as in real life, though, we have no limit on games by relief pitchers.
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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game)
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05/29/06 01:55 PM
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Originally posted by plawrence:
Just as in real life, though, we have no limit on games by relief pitchers. But in real life, each team still only plays 162 games - that's what's confusing me...
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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game)
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Benched SPs: :p
CC's Johnson +25
JL's Vasquez +25
NOT on Bench:
LZ's Lee -27
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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game)
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Cinfusion cleared up now? I was gonna go into the logic of it, but as long you've got the idea.... Originally posted by J Geoff:
NOT on Bench:
LZ's Lee -27 And JG's Penny, -9 7-0 lead, and he couldn't hang around long enough to pick up the "W" :rolleyes: Penny suffered a fifth-inning collapse, giving up six straight hits and four runs, as he couldn't stay in the game long enough to qualify for the win.
Penny gave up three straight doubles to Pratt, Matt Diaz and Marcus Giles, followed by three straight singles to Renteria, Jones and Wilson Betemit. Pulled from the game after the Braves cut the lead to 8-5, Penny grabbed a bat and swung at the water cooler in the Dodgers' dugout.
Penny gave up nine hits and a season-high five runs in 4 1/3 innings, his shortest start of the year.
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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game)
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05/29/06 06:37 PM
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Originally posted by J Geoff:
But in real life, each team still only plays 162 games - that's what's confusing me... Originally posted by plawrence:
Cinfusion cleared up now? Considering you didn't offer any type of explanation since I typed that, how could it be "cleared up"? :p
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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game)
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05/29/06 10:24 PM
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Maybe I'm confused about what it is that you're confused about.
I answered the question about a limit on games by your RPs; I tought if i offered any more information it might confuse things more.
In real life teams play 162 games.
As a rsult, they cannot have more than 162 games startd at 1B, 2B, 3B, etc.
Just as in our league.
They cannot have a total of more than 162 games started by their SPs, just as in our league.
They can, however, have an unlimited number of game appearances by their relief pitchers, just as in our league.
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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game)
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05/29/06 11:44 PM
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Originally posted by plawrence:
They cannot have a total of more than 162 games started by their SPs, just as in our league.
They can, however, have an unlimited number of game appearances by their relief pitchers, just as in our league. I guess I almost get it, but...NO starter on the planet is gonna start 162 games -- and no reliever on the planet is gonna relieve 162 games in a year. My question is, what's the difference, tho? We designate 6 SP's to share 162 games (max)... We have what, 5 RPs -- none of whom can "play" more than 162 times/ year... so how is THAt "unlimited"? RPs rack up games much quicker than SPs, and technically, since no team plays more than 162 games/ year... I still don't get how RP appearances can be "unlimited"... A Starter won't play that many, but 162 games are divided amongst all your staters. At the same time, tho, a Reliever cannot play that many either -- so why aren't RP appearances limited?
I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey! lol Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin My DVDs | Facebook | Godfather Filming Locations
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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game)
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05/30/06 01:40 AM
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I dunno....the individusl dcored for each guy are correct, I believe. The total of 10 is wrong. Should be 3. [whine alert] Friggin' Valverde....Back to back Blown Save/Loss. -18 yesterday, -21 today. [/whine alert] I lead the league with 5 of those suckers now.  That's really the only thing in the scoring system that I think needs a major change. If a RP gets charged with a loss, i don't thimk he should get charged for the lown save also; It makes his negative score too high. Trouble is, I can't think of a way to change it, except by tracking it manually. Anyway, it was funny....I was listening to the game and after Valverde blew the save I was rooting for him to lose also, because then Sanchez would get the win and I would get an extra point out of the deal.
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