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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game) #270416
06/25/06 10:32 AM
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Saturday's Scores
Code:
 
         
      OPU  OPTS    SPU  SPTS    RPU  RPTS    Total
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DB     8    38      0     0      2    25       63
JL     9    45      0     0      5    17       62
CC     7    34      0     0      1     6       40
JG     8    30      0     0      3     5       35
PL     9    12      2     5      3     9       26
LZ     9    28      1     1      1    -5       24
DJ     6    28      0     0      1    -8       20
DA     7     6      1    -2      2    11       15
TM     8    22      2    12      3   -29        5
Current Standings
Code:
 
          
     OPU  OPTS    SPU  SPTS    RPU  RPTS    Total
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JL   675  2413     85   707    161   438     3558
JG^  654  2118     91   930    157   455     3503
TM   614  2264     90   972    138   265     3501
DB   622  2502     80   494    164   404     3400
PL   650  2258     78   755    172   314     3327
DJ   618  2172     70   627     63   119     2918
LZ   604  2023     67   650     94   205     2878
DA   576  2016     75   623    138   191     2830
CC   633  2149     94   375    140   145     2669
Saturday's Best & Worst

Street TM -22


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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game) #270417
06/25/06 01:51 PM
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in my mosy humble opinion, I believe I should finish first. my team is just too damn good but I'm affraid I managed myself out of 1st place. only Street sucks. this guy is a girlie. when you start tracking relievers charged with a BS and a L, plaw, be sure you start with this prick. he's got a LOT of them.


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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game) #270418
06/25/06 10:05 PM
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Note to self: Never start 2 pitchers pitching against each other. It's a no win situation.

Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game) #270419
06/25/06 10:40 PM
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I have to diagree with you. I've done pretty well in those situations (would'be been better if it wasn't for the Matt Cain/Joe Blanton incident a while ago) if one pitcher is doing bad, it's probably because the other is doing fine. at least you get a real bad luck and one of them grab the loss and the other is not involved in the decision, it's a win-win situation.


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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game) #270420
06/26/06 02:17 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Just Lou:
Note to self: Never start 2 pitchers pitching against each other. It's a no win situation.
I agree - that's NOT true! A 1-0 or 2-1 game when neither starter gets the loss is a good day! :p How did yours turn out?



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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game) #270421
06/26/06 11:49 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by J Geoff:
How did yours turn out?
I think you know the answer to that question. :rolleyes:

Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game) #270422
06/27/06 03:22 AM
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Quote:
Jun 26 The Associated Press reports Minnesota Twins C Joe Mauer had a career best five RBIs and tied a career high with four hits in the Twins 8-2 victory over the Los Angeles Dodgers Monday, June 26. Mauer leads Major League Baseball with a .377 batting average.
Is it considered a whine if I simply request someone to kill me? :rolleyes:



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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game) #270423
06/27/06 05:26 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by J Geoff:
Is it considered a whine if I simply request someone to kill me? :rolleyes:
I'd say that it depends on how you say it and what you emphasize.

If you carry on about how he scored 13 points and you had him on your bench, and then add in passing that you'd like someone to kill you, then I'd say that it would qualify as a whine.

But if you mostly emphasize how you would like someone to kill you without going into a great deal of detail as to the "why", and mention Mauer as the reason only in passing, then I'd say that it does not qualify as a whine.


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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game) #270424
06/27/06 06:44 AM
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See? I always knew plaw was a whine connis.... a whine conis.... a whine connes.... a guy who loves whine.


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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game) #270425
06/27/06 08:11 AM
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Call me an oneophile. It's easier to spell.


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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game) #270426
06/27/06 08:23 AM
06/27/06 08:23 AM
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Sunday's Scores
Code:
 
         
      OPU  OPTS    SPU  SPTS    RPU  RPTS    Total
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DA     7    45      2    34      0     0       79
JL     8    36      2     0      1     7       43
PL     7    13      0     0      4    17       30
CC     8    27      1    11      3    -8       30
LZ     8    17      0     0      2    11       28
DB     7    20      0     0      2     6       26
TM     7    14      2     3      0     0       17
DJ     7    16      0     0      0     0       16
JG     5     9      1     6      0     0       15   
Current Standings
Code:
 

          
     OPU  OPTS    SPU  SPTS    RPU  RPTS    Total
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JL   683  2449     87   707    162   445     3601
JG   659  2127     92   936    157   455     3518
TM   621  2278     92   975    138   265     3518
DB   629  2522     80   494    166   410     3426
PL   657  2271     78   755    176   331     3357
DJ   625  2188     70   627     63   119     2934
DA^  583  2061     77   657    138   191     2909
LZ   612  2040     67   650     96   216     2906
CC   641  2176     95   386    143   137     2699
Sunday's Best & Worst

Nobody good (or bad) enough to make the list


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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game) #270427
06/27/06 08:39 AM
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Monday's Scores
Code:
 
         
      OPU  OPTS    SPU  SPTS    RPU  RPTS    Total
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CC     8    44      2    42      1    -8       78
JL     4    28      1    15      1     3       46
JG     9    20      1    20      1     4       44
PL     5    15      1    27      0     0       42
TM     4    27      0     0      1     3       30
DB     9    40      1   -16      3     5       29
LZ     3     8      1    15      1     4       27
DJ     3    21      0     0      0     0       21
DA     5    14      0     0      1    -7        7
Current Standings
Code:
 

          
     OPU  OPTS    SPU  SPTS    RPU  RPTS    Total
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JL   687  2477     88   734    163   442     3653
JG   668  2147     93   956    158   459     3562
TM   625  2305     92   982    139   260     3547
DB   638  2562     81   478    169   415     3455
PL   662  2287     79   782    176   332     3401
DJ   628  2209     70   627     63   119     2955
LZ^  615  2052     68   664     97   221     2937
DA   588  2075     77   657    139   184     2916
CC   649  2220     97   428    144   129     2777
Monday's Best & Worst

Giambi TM 15
Johnson CC 34


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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game) #270428
06/27/06 07:17 PM
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I can't get into the Yahoo game site or the ESPN site right now.

Anyone else that's around having a problem?


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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game) #270429
06/27/06 07:27 PM
06/27/06 07:27 PM
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Weird -- All of my many desk top shortcuts to other websites work fine, except for those for Yahoo and ESPN.


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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game) #270430
06/27/06 07:31 PM
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I got into my league on Yahoo just fine.


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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game) #270431
06/27/06 08:58 PM
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What's the matter Plaw? You didn't want to talk to me? :p


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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game) #270432
06/27/06 08:59 PM
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It's OK now....thanks.

I always like talking to you, JB...I was busy spending am hour and a half on my teams for tomorrow.


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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game) #270433
06/27/06 09:20 PM
06/27/06 09:20 PM
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Only an hour and a half? Judging by the standings that might not be enough. :p


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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game) #270434
06/27/06 09:31 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Jimmy Buffer:
Only an hour and a half? Judging by the standings that might not be enough. :p
Ouch!



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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game) #270435
06/27/06 09:44 PM
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I've been having problems getting into yahoo for the past 15 minutes. It has me clocked, or it gives me the "cannot find server" error message.


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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game) #270436
06/27/06 09:46 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by J Geoff:
[quote]Originally posted by Jimmy Buffer:
[b] Only an hour and a half? Judging by the standings that might not be enough. :p
Ouch! [/b][/quote]Waht are you laughing at?

I'm ahead of you in the ESPN game despite the fact that I missed two days, and as soon as I make up the 14 starts in pitching that I'm behind you, I figure to pass you in the Yahoo game as well.


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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game) #270437
06/28/06 08:19 AM
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Tuesday's Scores
Code:
 
         
      OPU  OPTS    SPU  SPTS    RPU  RPTS    Total
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JG     9    27      2    36      1     3       66
DB     7    16      1    26      2    10       52
DA     8    29      2    16      1     4       49
TM     9    17      1    26      1     5       48
CC     8    32      0     0      0     0       32
JL     8    26      1    -8      1     3       21
DJ     7    18      0     0      0     0       18
PL     6    16      0     0      2    -4       12
LZ     9    29      2   -33      1     6        2
Current Standings
Code:
 

          
     OPU  OPTS    SPU  SPTS    RPU  RPTS    Total
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JL   695  2503     89   726    164   445     3674
JG   677  2174     95   992    159   462     3628
TM   634  2322     93  1008    140   265     3595
DB   645  2578     82   504    171   425     3507
PL   668  2303     79   782    178   328     3413
DJ   635  2227     70   627     63   119     2973
DA^  596  2104     79   673    140   188     2965
LZ   624  2081     70   631     98   227     2939
CC   657  2252     97   428    144   129     2809
Tuesday's Best & Worst

Lowe LZ -28


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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game) #270438
06/29/06 05:58 PM
06/29/06 05:58 PM
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Wednesday's Scores
Code:
 
         
      OPU  OPTS    SPU  SPTS    RPU  RPTS    Total
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DB     10   26      4    71      1      6     103
LZ      9   22      2    46      1      4      72
JG      9   43      2    27      2    -12      58
PL      9   36      2    24      3     -3      57
CC     11   47      1     9      3     -1      55
JL      9   25      2    34      2     -5      54
DJ      8   27      1     8      2     10      45
DA      8   28      0     0      3     -4      24
TM      7   25      0     0      2    -19       6
Current Standings
Code:
 

          
     OPU  OPTS    SPU  SPTS    RPU  RPTS    Total
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JL   714  2528     91   760    166   440     3728
JG   686  2217     97  1019    161   450     3686
DB^  655  2604     86   575    172   431     3610
TM   641  2347     93  1008    142   246     3601
PL   677  2339     81   806    181   325     3470
DJ   643  2254     71   635     65   129     3018
LZ   633  2103     72   677     99   231     3011
DA   604  2132     79   673    143   184     2989
CC   668  2299     98   437    147   128     2864
Tuesday's Best & Worst

Verlander DB 36

Wickman DA -11

Good day yesterday for our pitching....14 starts, 219 points, 15.64 FPPG average.

That gets our overall average up to 8.57 FPPG (from 8.44), the highest it's been since May 25th (8.58).

I don't know if we have a shot to reach 10.0 by the end of the season with slightly more than half of our total starts already used (769/1458, or 52.7%)....

We'd need to score another 7,990 points in 689 starts, an average of 11.596 FPPG the rest of the way.

And that assumes that as a league we reach 1458.

If we don't, we'll have to do even better than 11.596 FPPG.


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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game) #270439
06/30/06 12:18 AM
06/30/06 12:18 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Just Lou:
Note to self: Never start 2 pitchers pitching against each other. It's a no win situation.
PL should have listened to me. :p

Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game) #270440
06/30/06 06:16 AM
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Not if you get a good pitcher's duel and the guy that ultimately loses leaves the game with the scored tied and doesn't get the loss.

If Patterson had pitched, say, 5 or 6 innings and given up 1-2 runs on 3-5 hits with 5-6 strikeouts and only 1 walk, and left with the score tied 1-1, he gets 10-20 points.

And if Halladay sticks around for 7 innings, and gives up 1 run on 5 hits with 5 strikeouts and 1 walk, and leaves up 2-1 and gets the win, that's another 28.

Obviously a lot to hope for - especially the Patterson part, with him leaving with the score tied - but that's what I was hoping for.

Even if Halladay wasn't pitching for Toronto and I used Patterson, he still would have gotten bombed, so the Halladay part had nothing to do with it, really, except to the extent that it affected Patterson's chances of getting the win.


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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game) #270441
06/30/06 01:14 PM
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Thursday's Scores
Code:
 
         
      OPU  OPTS    SPU  SPTS    RPU  RPTS    Total
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TM     5    27      2    22      3    -3       46
JG     4    20      1    14      2     8       42
PL     6    16      3     9      3     7       32
LZ     6    14      0     0      2    11       25
JL     5    14      0     0      1     6       20
DA     4    14      1     2      2     3       19
DB     5    16      1   -11      2    11       16
CC     5    17      1    16      1   -18       15
DJ     4    11      0     0      0     0       11
Current Standings
Code:
 

          
     OPU  OPTS    SPU  SPTS    RPU  RPTS    Total
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JL   719  2542     91   760    167   446     3748
JG   690  2237     98  1033    163   458     3728
TM^  646  2374     95  1030    145   243     3647
DB   660  2620     87   564    174   442     3626
PL   683  2355     84   815    184   332     3502
LZ   639  2117     72   677    101   242     3036
DJ   647  2265     71   635     65   129     3029
DA   608  2146     80   675    145   187     3008
CC   673  2316     99   453    148   110     2879
Thursday's Best & Worst

Julio CC -18


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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game) #270442
06/30/06 07:41 PM
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I started Smoltz vs. Peavy one day and I believe I got +20 from both (don't remember exactly). if they're two good pitching of your staff, there's no trouble in doing that IMO. out of all the posible decisions, only if you had a no decision and a loss you'd be in a bad shape.


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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game) #270443
07/01/06 01:09 AM
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Here's an interesting stat. Todd Jones has converted 21 out of 23 saves, but has negative fantasy points for the season.

Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game) #270444
07/01/06 02:17 AM
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Even better: I caught up to you! :p

Saves aren't worth anything in our scoring, tho -- APPARENTLY a whole 2 pts (ultimately, 1 for Save, 1 for Save Opp). Not sure why it says SV (8) and SVOP (-6) in the settings... but I only got 4 pts for 3 outs w/ 1 BB, 1 SV, 1 SVOP...

Can someone please remind me how a Save Opp is worth the same as a Loss????



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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game) #270445
07/01/06 03:04 AM
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The Slippery Slope
plawrence Offline OP
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plawrence  Offline OP
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Joined: Aug 2002
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The Slippery Slope
They didn't give you the option of assigning a negative value to a blown save, so that was the only way to do it.

My thinking - and DB and I discussed this, and he agreed - was that because such a tremendously high percentage of saves opportunities were sucessfully converted, making the SVOP -6 and the Save +8, aguy would get =2 points for a save, and -6 for a blown save, which is as bad as a loss.

If he converts 3 out of 4, which is below average for closers, he would wind up with a net of zero points.

If he coverts 4 of 5, about average, he winds up with a net of +2 points.

And so on.

Had Yahoo made Blown Saves a stat category, I would have made a Save worth +2 or +3, and a BS worth -3 or -4, which would have been preferable.

The only problems were

a) People seem to think that a save is worth a lot more in real life than I personally do. The save rule is so stupid that guys get saves for doing practically nothing and in some cases being totally inefficient.

Just an example: The game vs. the Yankees when the Mets Wagner came in with a 4 run lead and allowed the Yanks to tie the score, but wasn't charged with a blown save because with a 4 run lead it wasn't considered a SVOP.

and, more importantly,

b) A pitcher who blows a save frequently gets charged with a loss, penalizing him way too much IMO in those games. he took a big penalty for blowing the save, another bug penalty for allowing just one more run and being charged with the loss was not worth the additional -6 points, and leads to some scores that are way too low for the situation.

That's something we didn't anticipate when we did the scoring system, and something we'll have to try and figure a way around for next season.


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