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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game) #270656
07/24/06 11:17 PM
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I'm not nearly as deep as JG in SP? Yeah, Ok.

Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game) #270657
07/25/06 01:22 AM
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I better check the DSM-IV to see if there's a delusional disorder centered around fantasy sports...



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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game) #270658
07/25/06 01:37 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by plawrence:
Regarding Haren, BTW....

Throw out his last 3 starts (0-3, 8.47 E.R.A) and his first 2 in April (0-1, 8.25 E.R.A.)...

And he had a nice stretch of 16 straight starts during which he went 6-5 with an E.R.A. of 2.87
Quote:
"When I negotiated Bob Stanley's contract with the Red Sox, we had statistics demonstrating he was the third-best pitcher in the league. They had a chart showing he was the sixtieth-best pitcher on the Red Sox!"
- Agent Bob Woolf

throw out his last 5 starts in May (3-2, 2.67 E.R.A.) and his April 16 and April 28 starts (1-0, 1.68 E.R.A.)...

And he has a poor 5.02 E.R.A. and with the A's offense slumping...

anyway, just telling you I'm not doing that one PL


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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game) #270659
07/25/06 01:58 AM
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PL is attempting to convince JG that he can afford to trade him SP.

Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game) #270660
07/25/06 02:22 AM
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Monday (official)
Code:
 
        
JG^ 4701  79  4780  Lackey (26) & Hall (15) lead the way
JL  4719  29  4748  Zito (-18) vs BOS understandable :P
TM  4544  30  4574  Linebrink (-17) erases Bay (15)
DB  4498  58  4556  Still hasn't traded Howard (8)
PL  4263  19  4282  Somehow he gained on me I bet... :P
LZ  3827  57  3884  Nice night; try to catch PL, huh? ;)
DA  3765  27  3792  Millwood (00) vs NYY understandable :P
CC  3713  50  3763  Crabby's Johnson (18) pulls thru
DJ  3540  20  3560  Made 1 move all year... go figure :/
        
 



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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game) #270661
07/25/06 02:28 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Tony Mosrite:
[quote] "When I negotiated Bob Stanley's contract with the Red Sox, we had statistics demonstrating he was the third-best pitcher in the league. They had a chart showing he was the sixtieth-best pitcher on the Red Sox!"
- Agent Bob Woolf
[/quote]:D



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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game) #270662
07/25/06 02:28 AM
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My "lacking depth" pitching staff consists of 4 of the 10 top pitchers in the N.L, and 1 in the A.L., in ERA this season. 4 former CY Young winners. A rookie phenom that is a perfect 7-7 this season, with a 1.15 ERA, and another rookie that is 8-5 with a 2.49 ERA. If needed, I have Feliz Hernandez too. After a bad April and May, he's 6-2 in June and July with an ERA around 3.50. ....I don't think I'll be worrying too much about the depth of my SP. :p

Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game) #270663
07/25/06 02:29 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Just Lou:
A rookie phenom that is a perfect 7-7 this season
*cough*



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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game) #270664
07/25/06 02:31 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by J Geoff:
[b]Monday (unofficial)
Code:
 
        
JG^ 4701  80  4781  Lackey (27) & Hall (15) lead the way
        
 
[/b]
Get ready for the trade offers.

Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game) #270665
07/25/06 02:35 AM
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Quote:
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[quote]Originally posted by Just Lou:
[b]A rookie phenom that is a perfect 7-7 this season
*cough* [/b][/quote]I don't know how long it will last, but picking him up and not dropping him when he was sent down, was the most important move I made all year. 180 points in only 7 starts.

Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game) #270666
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Quote:
Originally posted by Just Lou:
Get ready for the trade offers.
5 more days....



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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game) #270667
07/25/06 02:36 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Just Lou:
[quote]Originally posted by J Geoff:
[b] [quote]Originally posted by Just Lou:
[b]A rookie phenom that is a perfect 7-7 this season
*cough* [/b][/quote]I don't know how long it will last, but picking him up and not dropping him when he was sent down, was the most important move I made all year. 180 points in only 7 starts. [/b][/quote]Dude, I was gonna pick him up the second you were gonna drop him -- you just never did. But my point being, I think you meant 7-0



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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game) #270668
07/25/06 02:43 AM
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BTW, thanks for turning down the Atkins trade. The guy is carrying my team right now. He homered again last night, and his numbers the last 5 games are sick.

Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game) #270669
07/25/06 02:45 AM
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Quote:
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But my point being, I think you meant 7-0
Yes. 7-7 = 7 starts, 7 wins.

Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game) #270670
07/25/06 02:49 AM
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Quote:
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Yes. 7-7 = 7 starts, 7 wins.
No, 7-7 ("7 and 7") means 7 Wins and 7 Losses...
7/7 ("7 for 7", aka 100%) means 7 wins out of 7 starts.

Sheesh. You use the same confusing funky math Plaw uses? :p



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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game) #270671
07/25/06 02:52 AM
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Geez. Picky aren't we? :p Next time I'll spell it out.

....And no. I'm trading him for Dunn or Howard. So don't ask.

Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game) #270672
07/25/06 03:01 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Just Lou:
....And no. I'm trading him for Dunn or Howard. So don't ask.


Really?? Hmmm....



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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game) #270673
07/25/06 03:03 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Just Lou:
My "lacking depth" pitching staff consists of 4 of the 10 top pitchers in the N.L, and 1 in the A.L., in ERA this season. 4 former CY Young winners. A rookie phenom that is a perfect 7-7 this season, with a 1.15 ERA, and another rookie that is 8-5 with a 2.49 ERA. If needed, I have Feliz Hernandez too. After a bad April and May, he's 6-2 in June and July with an ERA around 3.50. ....I don't think I'll be worrying too much about the depth of my SP. :p
You don't get anything in this game for being a former Cy Young winner, or having one rookie who's this and another who's that.

All that counts are Fantasy Points per game.

As far as Weaver goes, all it will take is that one inevitable blasting that will knock his FPPG average down into the realm of reality, altho he has been a phenom so far.

As far as JG's SP being deeper than yours, let me clarify my statement....

Since you've both been using 6 starers, if he replaces Zambrano with Robertson, he loses about 5 points per start.

If you replace Carpenter with Hernandez, you lose about 7.6 points per start.

His overall staff isn't really "deeper".

Actually, JL, now that I take a real close look, if you manage your SPs well the rest of the way, I don’t see JG having any chance to beat you.

Your #1 through #5 starters all have a higher FPPG average than his 1-5 does.

Quote:
Originally posted by J Geoff:
PL 4263 19 4282 Somehow he gained on me I bet... :p
Stop being silly already.

This is like the 5th or 6th time for the same comment.

When I think I’ve gained on you even if the raw points say otherwise, then I’ll say so.

I never said so when I didn’t.

You’re the one that will use 3 starters and get 10 points while I use no starts on a given day, tie me in offense, and then claim that I didn’t gain on you because I might not get the 10 points back in the 3 starts.


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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game) #270674
07/25/06 03:05 AM
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Anyway, according to JG this game is mostly luck and "crafty finagling" (which some people call "trading" and "free agent pickups").

The "skill game" is the Salary Cap game.

He's right, too.

Just as in real life, the luck of injuries can ruin a season.

[whine alert]
If I had Harden all year averaging what he averaged before his injury, 3 out of my top 1-4 SPs would have had a higher FPPG average than either of you guys.

And I won't even mention Patterson.
[/whine alert]


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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game) #270675
07/25/06 03:06 AM
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Quote:
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Just Lou:

Actually, JL, now that I take a real close look, if you manage your SPs well the rest of the way, I don’t see JG having any chance to beat you.

Your #1 through #5 starters all have a higher FPPG average than his 1-5 does.
Yes, I know. That's why your statement that I don't nearly have the depth he does made no sense to me. I'm picking my spots with pitchers now, not just using a 6 man rotation. Oswalt didn't pitch against the Mets, and Carpenter will not pitch at Coors this week, etc. I will also use Hernandez in the right matchup.

Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game) #270676
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Yeah. As I explained, that's not really what I meant.


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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game) #270677
07/25/06 03:18 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by plawrence:
Anyway, according to JG this game is mostly luck and "crafty finagling" (which some people call "trading" and "free agent pickups").

The "skill game" is the Salary Cap game.
Actually, I'm starting to disagree with what I thought originally. I'm enjoying draft games more and more, the better I get at it. As I said, the salary cap games are just becoming tedious to me.

I've honed my skills (I didn't start Robertson yesterday, for instance) and have plenty of more tricks up my sleeve the next couple months. :p

But in any event, I don't have Robertson any more. You can feel free to try you waiver luck to get him. :p



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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game) #270678
07/25/06 03:40 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by plawrence:
You’re the one that will use 3 starters and get 10 points while I use no starts on a given day, tie me in offense, and then claim that I didn’t gain on you because I might not get the 10 points back in the 3 starts.
Talk about being silly... :rolleyes: :p

ALL starters will have their bad days; I've had a few, and all at once sometimes. I don't pick SP's when the odds are against them; shit happens. But at least I make a decision to use my SP's rather than be too scared to. :p

As far as I can tell, you have 2 reliable "good" starters at this point, and I have 3. How are you gonna catch up?



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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game) #270679
07/25/06 04:06 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by J Geoff:
Actually, I'm starting to disagree with what I thought originally. I'm enjoying draft games more and more, the better I get at it. As I said, the salary cap games are just becoming tedious to me.
Translation:

When I do well at a game it's a game of skill.

When I do poorly at a game, it's a game of luck. :p


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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game) #270680
07/25/06 04:17 AM
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Quote:
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As far as I can tell, you have 2 reliable "good" starters at this point, and I have 3. How are you gonna catch up?
You mean you still don't know?

By gaining 300-400 points with my 26 extra starts and another 150-200 because we have 600 games of offense left and my offense averages about .30 per game more than yours, and getting lucky with the bullpens, the most unpredictable category of all.

I understand that you think that once our number of starts are equal that you'll have the edge because your starters are better than mine, but I'm not sure it will matter.

My top two are better than your top two, and your 3 & 4 are better than my 3 & 4.

Believe me, it's a lot closer than you think it is, and I don't know why I feel compelled to keep wastng my time trying to convince you that you don't really have a 400 or 500 point lead.


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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game) #270681
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Man, I thought I had a post to save you guys time. :p

Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game) #270682
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Yeah, nice try.

Thanks anyway.


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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game) #270683
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[Whine Alert]
So I want to start Ben Sheets today. He's been on my DL. I drop Westbrook to create a roster spot only to find that I still can't start Sheets because the changes will take place tomorrow.

That's stupid. In real life, a guy can start the same day he comes off the DL. Why can't we do it here? I have the same complaint about picking up free agents (i.e. unable to use until the day after we pick them up).

I've known about the free agent thing for awhile but this DL thing is new to me. :rolleyes:
[/Whine Alert]

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I always agreed with you on that for FAs, but they don't give you any other option.

If I pick up a FA right now, why shouldn't he be allowed to play for me tonite?

And the same thing should apply to guys coming off the DL as well.

That wasn't a whne, BTW, IMO.

It was a legitimate complaint about the way the game is set up.

A whine is like "So and so scored 15 points and I had him on the bench" or "They took out my starter when he was up 3-1 in the 8th, and the bullpen cost me the 7 points for the win (or, in the Salary Cap game "I had 17 points in pitching and was expecting to wind up in the high 20's when they took him out, and the bullpen blew the whole game and I wound up with 8 points for the day")


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Re: Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (Draft Game) #270685
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I knew good ol' D Lee was headed back to the DL yesterday, I couldn't even put him on the DL until today, and I won't be able to get my replacement until tomorrow. So yeah, it's stupid.



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