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Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game)
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04/11/06 06:48 AM
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I believe that ESPN has corrected the scores to reflect the fact that the runs are earned.
So despite the incorrect "order" in which they have everyone, why not just go by the correct point totals and put everyone in their correct position?
Or am I misunderstanding you?
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Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game)
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04/11/06 07:20 AM
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Originally posted by ginaitaliangirl: does this mean y'all will change the score yourselves, for those of us who had StL? And if so, will you have to remember that the entire season? Just for future reference, GG..... ESPN usually displays no scores at all from about 3:00 AM until about 5:30, when they come out with the "official scores". There have been many, many occasions when the score(s) you may have seen at 1:30 or 2:00 AM were different than the official scores later. There has never been, at least to the best of my knowledge since we've all been playing, a case in which there was an incorrect scoring decision that was not corrected during that two hour interval in the morning, but I guess there's a first time for everything. There have been one or two cases in the past when ESPN screwed up (most notably in 2004 when they weren't prepared for leap year and decided not to count the basketball scores for February 29th), and it has always been my position that just because ESPN screws up and makes an incorrect scoring decision, that we are under no obligation to follow that decision ourselves. In this case, had ESPN not corrected St. Louis's pitching score to reflect the fact that the runs were seemingly earned, I first would have made 1000% sure that the runs were, in fact, earned, by checking other sources. If it turned out that the runs were earned, and ESPN was not correcting the mistake, then "Yes"; I would have argued that we should manually correct the scores ourselves to reflect six fewer points for the St. Louis-takers, and simply remembered to deduct them at the end of the game. I'm sure if those six points made a difference in the final scores, the people who didn't have St. Louis yesterday would have been sure to remember to deduct them, so remembering wouldn't have been a problem. Bottom line: For my money, the integrity of the game and the scores is of paramount importance. If ESPN fails to correct a mistake that we are aware of, we are under no obligation to go along with that mistake if we are aware of it and can correct it. Had that happened in this case, though, you personally would've been operating with the handicap of being the organizer of your league and then trying to alter the "official" scoring only nine days after the game started. That would have been mitigated, I guess, by the fact that presumably you had St. Louis in your league at school as well, so in this particular case making the correct decision would have cost you points, and everyone would be able to see that you were not simply acting out of your own self interest (assuming that you did deduct the points from yourself). Imagine if it had been the other way around and you were in the position of having to try and deduct points from someone else in your league and having to explain all this crap. 
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Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game)
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04/11/06 10:29 AM
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Sheesh, you're a tough one to please.... First you complain about not getting an explanation about what "Missed doubleheader" meant, when any reasonable person would figure that you knew what missing a doubleheader was all about since they make a special point of mentioning the importance of doubleheaders in the scoring rules. Then, when someone specifically asks for an explanation regarding a specific situation, you complain aout my taking the time to give them one. I guess some people are just never satisfied. Besides... Originally posted by Don Cardi: Ahh, I guess that we all love him and that is why we tolerate these posts. I don't see where you have too much choice :p .
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Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game)
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04/11/06 10:49 AM
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Don Cardi
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Don Cardi Five - ten years from now, they're gonna wish there was American Cosa Nostra. Five - ten years from now, they're gonna miss John Gotti.
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Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game)
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04/11/06 03:32 PM
04/11/06 03:32 PM
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I second that emotion. Plus, I have him in Yahoo also. 
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Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game)
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04/11/06 05:11 PM
04/11/06 05:11 PM
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I'm sorry I couldn't make it here sooner to defend Plaw (without any prompting... :p ) regarding his detailed explanation. I always appreciate his lengthy posts - they give me a much better understanding of the game, and I think it's nice he takes the time to write them. He might be a fantasy addict/windbag, but he's good at it. Plaw, thanks for all of the info. I figured it wouldn't be good to trust any scores until the morning, and I've been checking them about 5:30 everyday. I did just what you suggested - I just put everyone in order, myself - but I'm still hoping that the standings will be correct by tomorrow. It's not so much that it's important to me, personally, but I'm sure it'll create confusion for the others. I was so grateful that the StL runs were added on - I know exactly what you mean about having to explain all of this to everyone, and how terrible it would've been if it was an advantage for me. I'm already having to defend myself in every other aspect of the game, as people refuse to give up on the idea that I'm "cheating." As if I'm even in a position to give tips ( :rolleyes: ), I wrote an entire "Tips" page, along with my "How to Play" page for the web site so that nobody would be at a disadvantage, and I don't think a single person has read any of it. But considering one of the players has maintained a spot near the top ten, simply by choosing the players with the funniest names...I guess there isn't much sense to our group. 
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Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game)
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04/11/06 05:52 PM
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 Not sure she'd understand, but I'm sure she'd take it... I doubt any of you will use her "strategy," so let me just post one of her lineups: C Geronimo Gil 1B Mark Teixeira 2B Placido Polanco 3B Ty Wigginton SS Juan Uribe LF Ryan Langerhans CF Chris Duffy RF Jeff Francoeur DH Dallas McPherson You get the idea... :p It drives the rest of us crazy, because we're spending time researching, checking stats, etc., and she sometimes ends up with more points than us!
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Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game)
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04/11/06 07:35 PM
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Originally posted by Don Sicilia: Give your friend this team... Tell him it's the "GangsterBB special".
C - John Buck 1B - Albert Pujols 2B - Homer Bush 3B - Vinny Castilla SS - Pokey Reese LF - Larry Bigbie CF - Willy Taveras RF - Rocco Baldelli (sounds like a Godfather character) DH - Jim Thome (our homey) PS - Yankees (Wang, Johnson, Small, etc...)
:p LOL You forgot Rich Harden, Nookie Logan, and the infamous breakfast cereal guy, Coco Crisp.
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Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game)
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04/11/06 07:54 PM
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C- Danny Ardion
1B- Lance Berkman
2B- Omar Infante
3B- Troy Glaus
SS- Neifi Perez
CF- Jim Edmonds
RF- Trot Nixon
LF- Raul Ibanez
DH- Mike Sweeney
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Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game)
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04/12/06 04:51 AM
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J Geoff
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All the "cream" hasn't risen here yet.... 
I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey!  lol Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin My DVDs | Facebook | Godfather Filming Locations
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Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game)
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04/12/06 05:04 AM
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No, there are still a few "movements" that I think we can reasonably expect to see.
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Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game)
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04/12/06 06:55 PM
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I should have gone with my first instinct last time that told me to take Maddux. Even I don't listen to me.
How about a little less questions and a lot more shut the hell up - Brian Griffin
When there's a will...put me in it.
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Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game)
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04/13/06 04:23 AM
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J Geoff
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ThursdayHOU @ SF D/H (...maybe, at the rate they're going) Everyone caught the D/H except the last two. Everyone has HOU PS, and Berkman. Everyone has Biggio except Plaw, w/ Durham. Everyone has Vizquel except Plaw, w/ Everett. Everyone has Wilson except CC & TM w/ Bonds. (?) Otherwise:
C 3B LF CF RF DH
CC Ausmus Feliz Bonds Willy Alou Finley
JG Greene Ensberg Wilson (Sully) Alou (Hafner)
TM Ausmus Ensberg Bonds Winn Lane Finley
PL (Ross) Feliz Wilson Winn Lane (Ortiz)
DB Ausmus Ensberg Wilson Winn Alou (Homey)
DC (VMart) (Wright) Wilson (Repko) Alou (Marrero)
JL (Castro) Ensberg Wilson Willy Lane (Gomes)
GG Ausmus Ensberg Wilson Winn Alou (Homey)
LZ Yeah, baseball season already..... :/
SC Not playing either....
I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey!  lol Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin My DVDs | Facebook | Godfather Filming Locations
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Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game)
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04/13/06 04:54 AM
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Originally posted by J Geoff: Everyone caught the D/H except the last two. Stupid... stupid... stupid. I marked the DH on my calendar yesterday and I STILL forgot to make the picks. Looks like me and Zia will be fightin' to see who gets on bottom.
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Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game)
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04/13/06 06:10 AM
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Wednesday Scores & Thursday's Probable Pitchers
CC 449 LAA (-2) 36 485 Hou Oswalt 1-0 3.14 & Backe 1-0 1.50
JG 432 LAA (-2) 35 467 Hou
TM 401 NYM (26) 62 463 Hou
PL 395 NYM (26) 51 446 Hou
DB 381 NYM (26) 55 436 Hou
DC 370 NYM (26) 56 426 Hou
GG 359 StL (21) 55 414 Hou
JL 347 NYM (26) 64 411 Hou
LZ 305 Cle (-18) 15 320 Cle Johnson 1-0 0.00
SC 240 StL (21) 59 299 NYY Johnson 1-1 2.40
I'm telling you guys.....this year's game is gonna be a great one. With only 74 points separating the top eight places and everyone seemingly knowing what they are doing and capable of putting together a hot few days hot streak, I don't see anyone pulling away. I worry only about TM and his long history of missing days; and SC, for fear that his late start will be too much of a handicap for him to overcome, what with eight dedicated players in front of him. As far as LZ is concerned, I don't have a clue. 
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