2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game)

Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) #274339 07/25/06 10:04 PM 07/25/06 10:04 PM
Joined: Aug 2002 Posts: 15,058 The Slippery Slope plawrence OP RIP StatMan
plawrence OP RIP StatMan Joined: Aug 2002 Posts: 15,058 The Slippery Slope	No, I can't really tell that. You really can't be faulted for taking Glavine tonight. I've made what I knew were bad picks in situations like that, because I was pissed for making the first bad pick, and I felt that the Mets "owed me", and I had to get even with them. It's not like Glavine is Hernandez or Soler or somebody. "Difficult....not impossible"

Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) #274340 07/25/06 10:44 PM 07/25/06 10:44 PM
Joined: Aug 2002 Posts: 8,389 Staten Island / New Jersey Just Lou
Just Lou Joined: Aug 2002 Posts: 8,389 Staten Island / New Jersey	True. But the point is, I just looked at my team and said: "ah, it's ok. Just leave it as-is."

Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) #274341 07/26/06 01:23 AM 07/26/06 01:23 AM
Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 31,310 New Jersey, USA J Geoff The Don
J Geoff The Don Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 31,310 New Jersey, USA	Tuesday (unofficial) Code: CC 530 Min (21) 47 577 PL 516 Hou (16) 52 568 TM 480 Bos (11) 39 519 JG 454 Bos (11) 51 505 GG^395 Min (21) 56 451 JL 433 NYM (03) 17 450 SC 425 Det (-25) 01 426 DM^380 Bos (11) 46 426 AL 367 Tex (06) 31 398 I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey! lol Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin My DVDs \| Facebook \| Godfather Filming Locations

Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) #274342 07/26/06 02:28 AM 07/26/06 02:28 AM
Joined: Aug 2002 Posts: 15,058 The Slippery Slope plawrence OP RIP StatMan
plawrence OP RIP StatMan Joined: Aug 2002 Posts: 15,058 The Slippery Slope	Goin' into the tank completely now, huh JL? :p SOK with me. Another guy I don't have to worry about on my way to the Overall Points Championship. That leaves who, now? Just TM I think. Hang in there, Tony!!!! "Difficult....not impossible"

Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) #274343 07/26/06 02:40 AM 07/26/06 02:40 AM
Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 31,310 New Jersey, USA J Geoff The Don
J Geoff The Don Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 31,310 New Jersey, USA	2 months still to go... hello? :p I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey! lol Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin My DVDs \| Facebook \| Godfather Filming Locations

Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) #274344 07/26/06 08:15 AM 07/26/06 08:15 AM
Joined: Aug 2002 Posts: 15,058 The Slippery Slope plawrence OP RIP StatMan
plawrence OP RIP StatMan Joined: Aug 2002 Posts: 15,058 The Slippery Slope	What? You're gonna catch me in overall? You want something to bet in, here 'ya go: I'll bet whatever you want, and give you 4-1 odds on you finishing with more total points than me. You're down by about 220 points, so you're certainly an underdog. And 220 points in this game is 220 points - no projections, games in hand, or any of that stuff to muddy the waters. But 4-1 is fair odds, I think. If you don't think so, make me a counter offer. I mean, if I said I was giving you 50-1 or 100-1 (which I won't, of course) I'm sure you'd take it. "Difficult....not impossible"

Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) #274345 07/26/06 08:25 AM 07/26/06 08:25 AM
Joined: Aug 2002 Posts: 15,058 The Slippery Slope plawrence OP RIP StatMan
plawrence OP RIP StatMan Joined: Aug 2002 Posts: 15,058 The Slippery Slope	Tuesday (Edited to officialize scores and add probable pitchers) Code: CC 530 Min (21) 47 577 Mil Capuano 10-5 3.49 PL 516 Hou (16) 52 568 LAD Penny 10-4 3.23 TM 480 Bos (11) 39 519 SaD Peavy 4-10 5.15 JG 454 Bos (11) 51 505 Det Verlander 12-4 2.77 GG^395 Min (21) 56 451 Min Silva (??) 5-9 6.91 JL 433 NYM (03) 18 451 NYM Maine 1-3 3.12 SC 425 Det (-25) 02 427 Mil DM^380 Bos (11) 47 427 CWS Buehrle 9-8 4.53 AL 368 Tex (06) 31 399 Cin Arroyo 9-6 2.92 9 players, 8 different pitchers....unusual. Over/Under 100 as best score of the day: 7/13 - 7/22 Over: 5, 50.0% Under: 5, 50.0% Sun, 7/23: N/A Mon, 7/24: Under (98) Tue, 7/25: Under (91) Total to Date: Over: 5, 41.7% Under: 7, 58.3% "Difficult....not impossible"

Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) #274346 07/26/06 11:48 AM 07/26/06 11:48 AM
Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 31,310 New Jersey, USA J Geoff The Don
J Geoff The Don Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 31,310 New Jersey, USA	Eww... some ugly PS decision to make for tomorrow I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey! lol Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin My DVDs \| Facebook \| Godfather Filming Locations

Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) #274347 07/26/06 01:50 PM 07/26/06 01:50 PM
Joined: Aug 2002 Posts: 15,058 The Slippery Slope plawrence OP RIP StatMan
plawrence OP RIP StatMan Joined: Aug 2002 Posts: 15,058 The Slippery Slope	Quote: Originally posted by Just Lou: ....the point is, I just looked at my team and said: "ah, it's ok. Just leave it as-is." Looks like you're getting back a good part of what the Mets owe you today. "Difficult....not impossible"

Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) #274348 07/26/06 02:45 PM 07/26/06 02:45 PM
Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 31,310 New Jersey, USA J Geoff The Don
J Geoff The Don Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 31,310 New Jersey, USA	Wednesday Code: CC 577 Mil (-05) 21+ PL 568 LAD (-17) -4+ Sure you don't want Penny?? TM 519 SaD (21) 41+ Picks against Plaw, correctly JG 505 Det (31) 56+ GG 451 Min (18) 39+ Picks against DMC, correctly JL 451 NYM (35) 43+ SC 427 Mil (-05) 14+ DM 427 CWS (-06) -3+ AL 399 Cin () I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey! lol Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin My DVDs \| Facebook \| Godfather Filming Locations

Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) #274349 07/26/06 05:35 PM 07/26/06 05:35 PM
Joined: Aug 2002 Posts: 15,058 The Slippery Slope plawrence OP RIP StatMan
plawrence OP RIP StatMan Joined: Aug 2002 Posts: 15,058 The Slippery Slope	Quote: Originally posted by plawrence: You want something to bet in, here 'ya go: I'll bet whatever you want, and give you 4-1 odds on you finishing with more total points than me. You're down by about 220 points, so you're certainly an underdog. And 220 points in this game is 220 points - no projections, games in hand, or any of that stuff to muddy the waters. But 4-1 is fair odds, I think. If you don't think so, make me a counter offer. I mean, if I said I was giving you 50-1 or 100-1 (which I won't, of course) I'm sure you'd take it. here 'ya go.... You just shaved a load of points off my lead, and I'll still give you 4-1 odds. Don't tell me that in a game of skill you don't have enough confidence in your chances of catching me that you think that your chances are worse than 1 out of 4. Or, let's reverse it. You give me 4-1 odds, and I'll bet that I beat you by more than our current difference over the rest of the season. Don't tell me that that in a game of skill you don't have enough confidence in your chances of beating me with a lead of 180 points or so that you think that your chances are worse than 1 out of 4. Or take both bets. Tell 'ya what..... I'm so confident that I'll take 3-1 odds instead of the 4-1 that I'm offering you. How can you say "No" to that? "Difficult....not impossible"

Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) #274350 07/26/06 06:42 PM 07/26/06 06:42 PM
Joined: Aug 2002 Posts: 15,058 The Slippery Slope plawrence OP RIP StatMan
plawrence OP RIP StatMan Joined: Aug 2002 Posts: 15,058 The Slippery Slope	Quote: Originally posted by plawrence: [quote]Originally posted by Just Lou: [b]....the point is, I just looked at my team and said: "ah, it's ok. Just leave it as-is." Looks like you're getting back a good part of what the Mets owe you today. [/b][/quote]I'd call it almost even now between you and the Mets. +35, +3, -6 = +32 for 3 games. Not that big a loss compared to 15-16 FPPG that you're probably averaging in pitching in this game. "Difficult....not impossible"

Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) #274351 07/27/06 01:20 AM 07/27/06 01:20 AM
Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 31,310 New Jersey, USA J Geoff The Don
J Geoff The Don Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 31,310 New Jersey, USA	Wednesday (official) Code: CC 577 Mil (-05) 37 614 How long will this hold up? PL 568 LAD (-17) 04 572 Sure you don't want Penny?? JG^505 Det (31) 65 570 Knock knock! ;) TM 519 SaD (21) 42 561 Picks against Plaw, correctly JL^451 NYM (35) 51 502 Breaks tie w/ GG GG 451 Min (18) 44 498 Picks against DMC, correctly SC 427 Mil (-05) 21 448 Keeps it tied up DM 427 CWS (-06) 21 448 Biggio (10) salvages, almost AL 399 Cin (03) 16 415 Did 5x better than Plaw at least I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey! lol Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin My DVDs \| Facebook \| Godfather Filming Locations

Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) #274352 07/27/06 05:05 AM 07/27/06 05:05 AM
Joined: Aug 2002 Posts: 15,058 The Slippery Slope plawrence OP RIP StatMan
plawrence OP RIP StatMan Joined: Aug 2002 Posts: 15,058 The Slippery Slope	Quote: Originally posted by J Geoff: PL 568 LAD (-17) 03 571 Sure you don't want Penny?? Would you rather have Penny or Haren right now? So, all kinds of interesting propositions to bet on out there. We're pretty much tied in this game.....you wanna bet on the rest of the way? Pick the amount, I'll give you 5-2 odds on your money. Then there's my proposition on the Overall Points Winner. You just chopped 60 points off my lead, but my offer still stands -- I'll give you 4-1 on you catching me. "Difficult....not impossible"

Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) #274353 07/27/06 05:10 AM 07/27/06 05:10 AM
Joined: Aug 2002 Posts: 15,058 The Slippery Slope plawrence OP RIP StatMan
plawrence OP RIP StatMan Joined: Aug 2002 Posts: 15,058 The Slippery Slope	Over/Under 100 as best score of the day: 7/13 - 7/22 Over: 5, 50.0% Under: 5, 50.0% Sun, 7/23: N/A Mon, 7/24: Under (98) Tue, 7/25: Under (91) Wed, 7/26: Over (103) Total to Date: Over: 6, 46.2% Under: 7, 53.8% YAY!! ....JG finally gets one :p "Difficult....not impossible"

Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) #274354 07/27/06 11:26 AM 07/27/06 11:26 AM
Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 31,310 New Jersey, USA J Geoff The Don
J Geoff The Don Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 31,310 New Jersey, USA	Thursday (unofficial) Code: CC 614 OAK (25) 70 684 She's not Dunn being in First PL 572 FLA (27) 56 628 He's not Dunn, either JG 570 COL (05) 35 605 Too Fogg-y to make a good pick TM 561 SFO (02) 26 587 Waits 'til 2:30AM to make picks JL 502 SFO (02) 32 534 Can I use the Cain/able pun again? GG 498 TOR (-2) 13 511 Don't trust Lilly; trust me. SC^448 ARI (16) 50 498 Breaks the tie DM 448 ARI (16) 43 491 He's vewy vewy quiet AL 415 CIN (21) 26 441 Did better than some w/ 2 batters OAK: Blanton (10-8, 4.90) vs TOR (CC vs GG) FLA: Olsen (8-4, 4.01) @ ATL COL: Fogg (7-5, 4.25) vs SDG SFO: Cain (7-6, 4.67) @ WAS TOR: Lilly (9-8, 3.89) @ OAK (GG vs CC) ARI: Vargas (8-6, 5.16) @ PHI CIN: ERamirez (3-6, 4.43) @ HOU I didn't like any of the SPs, so I went ironic. I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey! lol Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin My DVDs \| Facebook \| Godfather Filming Locations

Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) #274355 07/28/06 01:11 AM 07/28/06 01:11 AM
Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 31,310 New Jersey, USA J Geoff The Don
J Geoff The Don Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 31,310 New Jersey, USA	Anyone else not able to connect to the ESPN Games site? :rolleyes: I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey! lol Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin My DVDs \| Facebook \| Godfather Filming Locations

Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) #274356 07/28/06 01:18 AM 07/28/06 01:18 AM
Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 2,190 Brazil Tony Mosrite Underboss
Tony Mosrite Underboss Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 2,190 Brazil	me! and my team is not the one I want! "I'm just a humble motherfucker with a big ass dick" The Bunk

Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) #274357 07/28/06 01:27 AM 07/28/06 01:27 AM
Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 31,310 New Jersey, USA J Geoff The Don
J Geoff The Don Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 31,310 New Jersey, USA	Yay, it's back! You have half an hour. :p I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey! lol Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin My DVDs \| Facebook \| Godfather Filming Locations

Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) #274358 07/28/06 01:33 AM 07/28/06 01:33 AM
Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 2,190 Brazil Tony Mosrite Underboss
Tony Mosrite Underboss Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 2,190 Brazil	okay all done now. I had a CF going against my PS! and Jimmy Rollins, I don't know what's worse :p now I have Vizquel who might not play. "I'm just a humble motherfucker with a big ass dick" The Bunk

Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) #274359 07/28/06 01:38 AM 07/28/06 01:38 AM
Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 31,310 New Jersey, USA J Geoff The Don
J Geoff The Don Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 31,310 New Jersey, USA	Quote: Originally posted by Tony Mosrite: I had a CF going against my PS! Ahh, nothing really wrong with that. I often pick a PS, and the starter's worst nemesis just in case! I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey! lol Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin My DVDs \| Facebook \| Godfather Filming Locations

Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) #274360 07/28/06 09:43 AM 07/28/06 09:43 AM
Joined: Aug 2002 Posts: 15,058 The Slippery Slope plawrence OP RIP StatMan
plawrence OP RIP StatMan Joined: Aug 2002 Posts: 15,058 The Slippery Slope	Over/Under 100 as best score of the day: 7/13 - 7/22 Over: 5, 50.0% Under: 5, 50.0% Sun, 7/23: N/A Mon, 7/24: Under (98) Tue, 7/25: Under (91) Wed, 7/26: Over (103) Thu, 7/27; Over (101) Total to Date: Over: 7, 50.0% Under: 7, 50.0% The average scores on the "Over" days are barely over 100, while they're much lower on the "Under" days. But that doesn't matter. All tied up at 7-7. "Difficult....not impossible"

Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) #274361 07/28/06 10:02 AM 07/28/06 10:02 AM
Joined: Aug 2002 Posts: 15,058 The Slippery Slope plawrence OP RIP StatMan
plawrence OP RIP StatMan Joined: Aug 2002 Posts: 15,058 The Slippery Slope	Thursday Scores (Official) & Friday's Probables Code: CC 614 OAK (25) 72 686 Min Liriano 12-2 1.93 PL 572 FLA (27) 57 629 Min JG 570 COL (05) 35 605 Bal Bedard 12-6 3.94 TM 561 SFO (02) 26 587 Min JL 502 SFO (02) 33 535 SaF Schmidt 7-6 3.12 GG 498 TOR (-2) 14 512 Tor Marcum 1-0 5.43 SC^448 ARI (16) 50 498 Bos Lester 5-0 3.04 DM 448 ARI (16) 44 492 NYM Pedro 7-4 3.45 AL 415 CIN (21) 26 441 Cin Milton 6-6 5.47 (I'm going down to Atl City now...I'll be back Saturday night, so no updates on the scores tomorrow. If anyone happens to be going down there, I'll be at the Taj poker room from about 2:30 this afternoon until 7:45 tonite. I'm not sure about after that, but I'll be back there Sat morning.) "Difficult....not impossible"

Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) #274362 07/28/06 09:00 PM 07/28/06 09:00 PM
Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 31,310 New Jersey, USA J Geoff The Don
J Geoff The Don Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 31,310 New Jersey, USA	O's SUCK!! :rolleyes: I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey! lol Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin My DVDs \| Facebook \| Godfather Filming Locations

Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) #274363 07/28/06 09:01 PM 07/28/06 09:01 PM
Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 14,900 Beth E Crabby
Beth E Crabby Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 14,900	Thank you Ross Gload (whoever the hell he is). How about a little less questions and a lot more shut the hell up - Brian Griffin When there's a will...put me in it.

Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) #274364 07/29/06 01:22 AM 07/29/06 01:22 AM
Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 31,310 New Jersey, USA J Geoff The Don
J Geoff The Don Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 31,310 New Jersey, USA	Friday (unofficial) Code: CC 686 MIN (24) 43 729 PL 629 MIN (24) 54 683 JG 605 BAL (03) 41 646 TM 587 MIN (24) 51 638 JL 535 SFO (12) 37 572 GG 512 TOR (13) 29 541 DM^492 NYM (18) 37 529 SC 498 BOS (-11) 08 506 AL 441 CIN (16) 29 470 I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey! lol Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin My DVDs \| Facebook \| Godfather Filming Locations

Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) #274365 07/29/06 07:29 AM 07/29/06 07:29 AM
Joined: Aug 2002 Posts: 15,058 The Slippery Slope plawrence OP RIP StatMan
plawrence OP RIP StatMan Joined: Aug 2002 Posts: 15,058 The Slippery Slope	Over/Under 100 as best score of the day: 7/13 - 7/22 Over: 5, 50.0% Under: 5, 50.0% Sun, 7/23: N/A Mon, 7/24: Under (98) Tue, 7/25: Under (91) Wed, 7/26: Over (103) Thu, 7/27; Over (101) Fri, 7/28; Under (79) Total to Date: Over: 7, 46.7% Under: 8, 53.3% As I said yesterday, the average scores on the "Over" days are barely over 100, while they're much lower on the "Under" days. Yesterday (79) certainly seems to help ptove that point. But, as I also said yesterday, that doesn't matter. So how many straight days of over 100 do you figure we need before we can say that someone scores over 100 "practically every day"? Starting today, 65 days in a row of someone scoring 100 or more gets it up to 90% of the days. I guess that comes close to qualifying as "practically every day" :p "Difficult....not impossible"

Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) #274366 07/29/06 08:10 AM 07/29/06 08:10 AM
Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 14,900 Beth E Crabby
Beth E Crabby Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 14,900	Quote: Originally posted by J Geoff: [b]O's SUCK!! :rolleyes: [/b] Well, I'm glad you're finally starting to realize that. :p How about a little less questions and a lot more shut the hell up - Brian Griffin When there's a will...put me in it.

Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) #274367
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Friday's Officialized Scores & Saturday's Probables

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CC 686  MIN  (24) 43  729  NYY  Johnson  11-8   4.80  
PL 629  MIN  (24) 54  683  NYY 
JG 605  BAL  (03) 41  646  LAA  Weaver    7-0   1.15 
TM 587  MIN  (24) 51  638  CWS  Garland  10-3   4.78 
JL 535  SFO  (12) 38  573  Hou  Oswalt    7-7   3.35  
GG 512  TOR  (13) 29  541  Tor  Jannsen   6-10  5.18  
DM^492  NYM  (18) 37  529  Hou 
SC 498  BOS (-11) 09  507  Bos  Beckett  13-5   4.77 
AL 441  CIN  (16) 29  470  Cin  Germano   0-0   0.00

"Difficult....not impossible"

Re: 2006 Baseball Challenge (Salary Cap Game) #274368 07/29/06 04:09 PM 07/29/06 04:09 PM
Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 14,900 Beth E Crabby
Beth E Crabby Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 14,900	Looks like it's going to be a suckass ps day for most of us. How about a little less questions and a lot more shut the hell up - Brian Griffin When there's a will...put me in it.

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