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Re: The Godfather Returns - Questions? #278198
10/26/04 10:24 PM
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Quote:
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Dammit JG. You get early releases on everything.
You been talking to his girlfriend??? :p


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Re: The Godfather Returns - Questions? #278199
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Hahahahaha. I didn't even think he had one. :p


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Re: The Godfather Returns - Questions? #278200
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Leave Lombardi out of this! :p



I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey! tongue lol

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Re: The Godfather Returns - Questions? #278201
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Many thanks to the Don for his early look at the book. Believe me, Don Geoff, you've put this soldier at ease. For a while there I was a little nervous.


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Re: The Godfather Returns - Questions? #278202
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A few questions for you, JG;

Does Johnny Ola, Hyman Roth, or Frankie Pentangeli get mentioned/are featured in the book?

Is Clemenza's death explained (if that bit of info contains spoilers, i understand)

how prevelent is Johnny Fontane?

I hear the book ends in 1962, but the newsday review says it ends in 1980? which one is it?

thanks alot.

-Zasa


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Re: The Godfather Returns - Questions? #278203
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Zasa - I'm only 1/4 of the way thru it due to current work constraints, but so far I can only answer one of those questions for sure: Yes, Johnny Fontane has a storyline in the book.



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Re: The Godfather Returns - Questions? #278204
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well hopefully they get they story of the band leader in there. that would be interesting.


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Re: The Godfather Returns - Questions? #278205
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Quote:
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well hopefully they get they story of the band leader in there. that would be interesting.
it would.Bot the Novel will be focusing on the family after part 1. Not before


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Re: The Godfather Returns - Questions? #278206
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yeah your right. i forgot about that. lol.


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Re: The Godfather Returns - Questions? #278207
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The main thing I'm looking for is an explination on Clemenza's death. I'm pretty sure it was a heart attack, but I want to hear more on how Clemenza and the Rosatos intereacted and how Pentangeli was involved.

My guess is that it's pretty similar to the Gallo brothers/Joe Bonnano situation.

-Zasa


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Re: The Godfather Returns - Questions? #278208
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Geoff,

I have to ask, is there much of Tom Hagen in it? TIA.

Re: The Godfather Returns - Questions? #278209
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Yes, Tom has a storyline in it as well



I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey! tongue lol

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Re: The Godfather Returns - Questions? #278210
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What date will it be coming out this month?

Re: The Godfather Returns - Questions? #278211
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11/16 - Next Tuesday!



I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey! tongue lol

Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin

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Re: The Godfather Returns - Questions? #278212
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Do you know the plot or anything so far?

Re: The Godfather Returns - Questions? #278213
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Yeah i can not wait

Re: The Godfather Returns - Questions? #278214
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I'm hoping this will be in our main book store on campus, but if it isnt, does anyone know where I should be able to find it at?

Re: The Godfather Returns - Questions? #278215
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What does this book actually means? Why is it "Godfather Returns"?

Its supposed to be a classic and once you try write or make a movie from classic, its usually not good.

Give me 5 reasons to not refuse to read this book.


Santino Jr

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Re: The Godfather Returns - Questions? #278216
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Quote:
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I'm hoping this will be in our main book store on campus, but if it isnt, does anyone know where I should be able to find it at?
Wal-Mart and Target stores will have it (approx. $17.50). Barnes & Noble and other large book chains will be carrying it, too (probably about $18.00).

You'll be able to order it from a ton of online places (including through Geoff's site) also.

Here's a link to Geoff's site: MARIO PUZO\'S STORE
It sells for $17.79 there.


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Re: The Godfather Returns - Questions? #278217
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Quote:
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Give me 5 reasons to not refuse to read this book.
1. Give it a chance
2. You may like it
3. Whats 20 bucks?
4. Why Not
5. If it sucks, then everyone will ridicule it, and then it will dissapear.


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Re: The Godfather Returns - Questions? #278218
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Quote:
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Give me 5 reasons to not refuse to read this book.
1. As a member of these boards you, obviously, have an interest in the subject, so its really an offer you can't refuse.

2. See #1

3. See #2

4. See #3

5. What's $20? (Thanks, DSC) :p


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Re: The Godfather Returns - Questions? #278219
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Fair enuff... I will buy the book once I visit the bookstore which wont be for while.


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Re: The Godfather Returns - Questions? #278220
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Does Frankie Pentangelli get a mention??

Re: The Godfather Returns - Questions? #278221
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It was posted somewhere (a few weeks back) that Winegardner claimed he knew more about "The Godfather" than anyone else alive. I hate such bragging statements and because of that I think I'm starting the book with a somewhat negative attitude. Already, after one chapter, I've found two glaring "errors" that aren't MAJOR, but nonetheless are disturbing.

I really should finish this with a clearer mind towards Winegardner (and be able to better enjoy the book).


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Re: The Godfather Returns - Questions? #278222
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I haven't seen the quote, but I'm sure he said that because of all the study of the first novel he must've done to write the sequel...

As for the "errors", I'm sure he'd call them "liberties"...

Hopefully I can get back to it soon - I'm only in chapter 9



I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey! tongue lol

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Re: The Godfather Returns - Questions? #278223
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Quote:
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As for the "errors", I'm sure he'd call them "liberties"...
Probably, but he'd be wrong to do so.

Without breaking any storylines for those who haven't started the book yet, one of the new main characters is a former boxer who beat up the guys who assaulted Bonasera's daughter (in the original novel). Puzo had written that Clemenza had taken care of all the details on that job, yet Winegardner has this character as part of Tessio's crew.

BTW - Its apparent that Winegardner is following the original novel only and not the movie (ie. the ages of the Corleone sons..... Tom Hagen, for example being born in 1910, and not in 1916 as was suggested by the movie).


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Re: The Godfather Returns - Questions? #278224
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Boy, you guys are really turning me off wanting to get this book. :p

Speaking of errors, I seem to recall reading The Godfather novel there were several type-o's in it.


How about a little less questions and a lot more shut the hell up - Brian Griffin

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Re: The Godfather Returns - Questions? #278225
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Quote:
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Boy, you guys are really turning me off wanting to get this book.
I hope not. There's already been some good stuff happen (in the first three chapters).


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My sister Angel is a Michael freak. She just hopes they have Michael as a strong, cunning character, not the wimp he was in GFIII. (her words, not mine). As long as Connie isn't pulling the strings she'll be fine.


How about a little less questions and a lot more shut the hell up - Brian Griffin

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Re: The Godfather Returns - Questions? #278227
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Quote:
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[quote]Originally posted by Beth E:
[b] Boy, you guys are really turning me off wanting to get this book.
I hope not. There's already been some good stuff happen (in the first three chapters). [/b][/quote]Thanks SC, that's what I want to hear. Damn, you'll be done before everyone. You'll have no one to discuss it with. I have so many questions to ask. When you are finished be sure to "grade" it for us ok?


TIS


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