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The death of Peter Clemenza... #30404
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In The Godfather Part II, Willi Cicci says "No, that was no heart attack" when Frederico and Frankie Pentangeli are discussing the death of Peter Clemenza. How did Peter Clemenza actually die, if the real cause of his death is known?
Re: The death of Peter Clemenza... #30405
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We are never told the real cause of Clemenza's death, but presumably the Rosato Brothers had something to do with it, either by speeding up some "natural cause" or by some manner of direct murder.

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Re: The death of Peter Clemenza... #30406
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No, as far as I know there is no hint in the Trilogy about the cause of Pete's death. Maybe there is an alternate script out there that describes it.

As I have maintained in other posts, I believe that some of the characters in GFI & GFII are at least partially based on real life Mafiosi. When it comes to Clemenza I believe that he is based on Joe Profaci who did die of a heart attack. Profaci was allied with Joe Bonanno in the 50s and 60s. Profaci was succeeded by Joe Magliocco who I believe is represented in the Trilogy by Pentangeli although Magliocco never turned on his fellow Mafiosi nor committed suicide.

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Re: The death of Peter Clemenza... #30407
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Clemenza had a heart attack when they told him they weren't going to make him the highest paid in GFII

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Re: The death of Peter Clemenza... #30408
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Another popular topic,on these boards its just something we will not know for sure smile

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Re: The death of Peter Clemenza... #30409
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I don't think they really felt the need to explain it. The line is only there to prevent any awkwardness towards his absence, which is actually there just because he asked for an absurd contract...

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Re: The death of Peter Clemenza... #30410
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It surprises me that Clemenza's death wasn't ever brought out into the open, the same applies to Tom Hagen.

That's one place where the second two movies could have done a better job. The legends from Part I we all learned to love are suddenly gone and there are suddenly new wiseguys around. I think that's why Winegardner's book sucked, he brought in all these characters we didn't know (or give a shit about) and focused less on the characters we already know and have taken an interest in.

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Re: The death of Peter Clemenza... #30411
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Thank-you for your help.
Re: The death of Peter Clemenza... #30412
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Originally posted by The Dr. who fixed Lucy:
Clemenza had a heart attack when they told him they weren't going to make him the highest paid in GFII
I dont think it was about the money,Castellano wanted his agent to write his own script for clemenza, and FFC could not make a successful movie if clemenza's lines werent the same as he wanted.
Re: The death of Peter Clemenza... #30413
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It wasn't "no heart attack" but maybe it was a stroke. He didn't look like the kind of guy who ever passed by a cannoli he didnt eat.

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Re: The death of Peter Clemenza... #30414
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He ate too much cannoli.

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