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Originally posted by plawrence:
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Originally posted by Don Cardi:
[b] if Sonny were alive then the attempt may have been made on his life with a setup by Fredo.
If you are of the mind that a big part of the reason why Fredo betrayed Michael was jealousy and resentment of the fact that Michael was his younger brother and he (Fredo) was "stepped over", then there's no reason to think he would have betrayed Sonny as well.

Sonny, of course, was the older brother, and, as such, was always ahead of Fredo in the family pecking order.

Sonny commanded his own regime, while Fredo was just a.....um, just a......

What exactly was Fredo at the time of the assassination attempt on his father?

Anyway, there was no reason for Fredo to resent Sonny or feel any jealousy towards Sonny, hence, no betrayal. [/b]
Your point is well taken. However I am of the mind that the unintentional betrayal was more than just jealousy in itself. Yes jealousy played a part in Fredo's decision to "get involved," but if pure jealousy that was the motivating factor behind Fredo's talking with Roth's people, then that would spell intention and malice on Fredo's part. And I do NOT believe that there was any intent or malice to actually hurt Mike on Fredo's part. It was more of an overall insecurity that Fredo had because of the menial positions that he had been given within the family.

Fredo still would have felt like a "nothing" even if Sonny were alive. And there still may have been a deal between The Corleones and Roth. So Fredo still may have thought that there was something in it for him by doing something to HELP the negotiations along between Roth and The Corleones. Fredo would have wanted to prove his worth to Sonny as much as he did to Mike.

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