Y'know what... CANCEL IT. I don't wanna upset anyone. We can do another deal during the season if he needs these guys so bad... but for now, I'm willing to forget it...

JEEZ!! I didn't see that post from a minute ago you made... But y'know what? I don't care any more! When I wake up, and if I see the million, then I'll know we have a deal. If I don't, I know we don't.........

[DMC gets out of chair and exits behind Malta]

[Ice glances to bodyguard who exits next]

Have fun dumping off all of those oversized barbarians JG !!!

Doesn't matter to me, I say let the trade go through... Ice seems pretty determined, don't sound like no accident to me!

Maybe he's got something up his sleeve, or some info we don't know about.

ya some info like mellow might be crap this yr and shaq might sit out half the season?

All right I am willing to veto if JG doesnt mind, but the Zia deal I made stays.EDIT--no the zia must be cancelled then. 'Screws up all of my arrangements.'

I agree about our deal... I wanted Vlad from the beginning, and I remember you commenting on my Gasol pick, too. In fact, I think I only took him after seeing Vlad get snatched up. So it's all good. If anyone sees it as unfair though, it's y'all's call.

nope if the other deal falls through your out zia. i dont need gasol if i have shaq and kg

If anyone thinks it gives JG an unfair advantage then vote it down. I do want Krstic though. Thats why I made the deal, I think he will be good this yr but forgot to draft him since I already had KG and SHAQ.

the end

Trade Update
Zia gets:
T. McGrady (Hou - SG,SF)
V. Radmanovic (LAL - PF)

Ice gets:
P. Gasol (Mem - PF,C)

Ice, what in the heck are you doing??

Now this deal is absolutely over-the-top. You realize you're giving up a clear superstar and Vlad on top of that to get a guy that's out until January.

Gasol is out until January.

I didn't think I'd see a LeBron for Korver situation in our league, but if this isn't it, I don't know what is.

This is clearly getting stupid because these trades he is proposing are doing nothing but helping other teams and attempting to mess this league up......

Take it easy guys, lets not say things we don't reaally mean. I had no idea about Gasol being out until January. I should probably research these things.

Since everyone here obviously views Mellow a lot higher than I do and Shaq's FT %(or lack thereof) less of a liability than myself just cancel both deals until I'm in shape to renegotiate.

DOH!

Again, I don't think these deals are giving either team an unfair advantage over the league, or anykind of advantage at all. But I sure as hell dont want Gasol now.

You're getting somebody that you can't use until 2007.

Zia will be getting T-Mac, a top 3 SG in the league who can, you know, actually play at the start of the season.

And you don't think one side is getting an advantage over the other?

I never say things I don't mean.

Ice, don't forget that we are a points league, not rotisserie where Shaq's FT% means guaranteed doom in the FT category.

In our points league, the points are calculated as follows:

(Points Scored + Rebounds + Steals + Assists + Blocks) - (Field Goals Missed + Free Throws Missed + Turnovers)

Sure, missed free throws hurt, but in my opinion, they aren't as significant in our league vs. in a roto league.

The Gasol thing sucks, I guess thats why he went so low. I really had no idea he was out. Yes I would love to have my money back on that one for sure.

But as for the JG deal I ran it by guys in my other 2 leagues and they don't see anything wrong w/ it.

whateva's cleva' kids ......

Ok

Then you are out of line accusing me of 'attempting to mess up the league.'

Take it easy

Just to make it clear:

Re: Trade w/ JG - Although I think it's a really bad trade, it's juuusssssttt close enough that someone might be able to justify it. I'm going to let that one go through.

Re: Trade w/ Zia - Ugggghhhh

Can I join this league and I hope there is money involved?

Ya its a money league, no I don't plan on winning!

SOLUTION:
CANCEL BOTH DEALS

ZIA-you can still have vlad and perhaps tmac but i'll find someone else on your team who is actually playing in 06'

JG-we can still do KG and SHAQ for Miller and Pierce.(if no one objects to that ) But I want Krstic still, and I'll give you someone else besides the incredulousy stoned mellow man.

AND THERE, WILL BE THE PEACE

And you're rolling your eyes because???

I can't believe Yahoo did not have Gasol tagged w/ an injury update!

Anyway, I am soooo over this now

The commisioner should be able to cancel the trades.

Maybe we should just cancel them both for now...

guess im getting too old for my job, too grouchy.

I pray to the fantasy Gods that Zia will let me cancel the gasol deal.

The other is up to the 'respected' members of the league

I am not out of line, just saying the truth. Your trades are COMPLETELY one sided in favor of the other person which screws everyone.

You think I'm skimmin' off the top Mike???

(I was at the draft) I TALKED.......to Letizia.....I can make the deal with her and still keep my mc grady!

Expect a few trades coming your way, and you just bought yourself another Christmas card mister!!!!!

Okay, I want to admit something-- don't hate me. I knew Gasol was out, but I didn't say anything.

BUT, in all fairness, I asked Ice several times if he was SURE he knew what he was doing, and if he really wanted this. So I approved because he was determined, and I figured if he proposes a trade without checking up on the guy, that's not my fault. If you just click on Gasol's name, the Yahoo page that comes up says in big red letters that he's out for 3 months. There's not that much research that goes into it.

In fact, I should have checked before drafting him too, but I only had 90 seconds. I'm thinking of keeping him for now and see what happens in the second half.

Anyway, I go with whatever the Commish thinks is fair-- I'm completely okay with cancelling the trade. Actually, the sooner the better, because we can't make any other trades until that gets cancelled.

I'm not dying for McGrady, but I do still want Vlad if you want to unload him. I'll look and see if there's a fair trade I have for him, and you can look too. We'll talk.