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Re: Why Sofia Coppola
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I think she gives probably the worst performance EVER. Literally. At least in a major motion picture.
As I've posted before, I saw GF III in the theatres and, by the end, the crowd was laughing out loud at every one of her lines.
Kind of took the poignancy out of her death scene.
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Re: Why Sofia Coppola
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I think she gives probably the worst performance EVER. Literally. At least in a major motion picture.
Close, but I think Eli Wallach saved her in the same movie. Also the guy who co starred with John Wayne in the Green Berets was pretty bad...David Jansenn I think.
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Re: Why Sofia Coppola
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I think she gives probably the worst performance EVER. Literally. At least in a major motion picture.
Close, but I think Eli Wallach saved her in the same movie. Also the guy who co starred with John Wayne in the Green Berets was pretty bad...David Jansenn I think. Worst acting performance? Bruce Jenner in Grambling's White Tiger
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Re: Why Sofia Coppola
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and even more. i always liked every second i watched of GF until i saw three. and not just mary, but i didnt like the way michael died either, to me if he was such a great man, or so powerful Mario Puzo could've made him die at least in his bed. i just dont get what happened with III. maybe FFC and puzo lost their touch
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Re: Why Sofia Coppola
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dont forget Jen lopez in gigli, yeah not so good
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Re: Why Sofia Coppola
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12/04/06 08:41 PM
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Ya know, I really wish people would get off this freaking dead horse. Sofia Coppolla did not do a real great acting job in GFIII. OK, fine, we get it. The movie is 15 years old now. Get over it.
You think Master Thespianess Winona Ryder, one of the great dramatic actresses of our age, would have done all that much better?? LMAO.
The part of Mary Corleone, as written, was simply not very interesting or complex a character.
Mary Corleone was supposed to be a spoiled, sheltered, rich brat, pampered by her mommy most of her life to keep her away from Gangster Daddy, who in turn overindulges her when he DOES get to see her, so needless to say Mary Corleone would probably have had a pretty oblivious "suburban princess" attitude, naive and not really very bright.
You ever hung around any 18-25 year-old "suburban princesses?" THEY ACT LIKE THAT. Like Valley Girls. "Like ohmigoddd, I am SOOO SUUUUURE!!" Shallow, vapid, selfish and not too bright. They believe in ponies and princes and Daddy buying them a new Corvette.
The biggest problem with the Mary Corleone character wasn't how Sofia Coppola played her -- it was a dull character to start out with.
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Re: Why Sofia Coppola
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12/04/06 08:52 PM
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Ya know, I really wish people would get off this freaking dead horse. Sofia Coppolla did not do a real great acting job in GFIII. OK, fine, we get it. The movie is 15 years old now. Get over it.
You think Master Thespianess Winona Ryder, one of the great dramatic actresses of our age, would have done all that much better?? LMAO.
The part of Mary Corleone, as written, was simply not very interesting or complex a character.
Mary Corleone was supposed to be a spoiled, sheltered, rich brat, pampered by her mommy most of her life to keep her away from Gangster Daddy, who in turn overindulges her when he DOES get to see her, so needless to say Mary Corleone would probably have had a pretty oblivious "suburban princess" attitude, naive and not really very bright.
You ever hung around any 18-25 year-old "suburban princesses?" THEY ACT LIKE THAT. Like Valley Girls. "Like ohmigoddd, I am SOOO SUUUUURE!!" Shallow, vapid, selfish and not too bright. They believe in ponies and princes and Daddy buying them a new Corvette.
The biggest problem with the Mary Corleone character wasn't how Sofia Coppola played her -- it was a dull character to start out with.
Thak you Enzo for your eloquence. You make the points that I've been trying to get across to some of these mamelukes.
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Re: Why Sofia Coppola
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Well, George Hamilton has about seven lines in the whole movie, how good or bad COULD he have been in it??  Enzo, don't care if he had three lines in the movie. The part was totally miscast as far as I am concerned. And Hamilton, with his "hollywood" tan did a God awful job playing the part. Keep in mind that this part was supposed to be a 'replacement' part for the Tom Hagen character. They could have done much better than casting Hamilton for a part like that. When they cast the part of Frank Pentangeli in GFII, that character was a 'replacement' for the Clemenza character. They did a great job casting Gazzo for that part. He was almost as likeable, if not more likeable, than the Clemenza character. The same cannot be said for the part of Hamilton. And what's with everyone rolling the eyes here in the last few posts?  Maybe it's time for you all to go and have your eyes checked.    Don Cardi 
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Re: Why Sofia Coppola
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Enzo, don't care if he had three lines in the movie. The part was totally miscast as far as I am concerned. And Hamilton, with his "hollywood" tan did a God awful job playing the part. Keep in mind that this part was supposed to be a 'replacement' part for the Tom Hagen character. They could have done much better than casting Hamilton for a part like that. When they cast the part of Frank Pentangeli in GFII, that character was a 'replacement' for the Clemenza character. They did a great job casting Gazzo for that part. He was almost as likeable, if not more likeable, than the Clemenza character. The same cannot be said for the part of Hamilton. And what's with everyone rolling the eyes here in the last few posts? Maybe it's time for you all to go and have your eyes checked. Don Cardi Actually I think FFC knew what he was doing when he tapped Hamilton for the character -- he wanted somebody with an image of being an airhead pretty-boy to play the B.J. Harrison character, as he had done with Troy Hamilton playing Merle Johnson in GF II -- because he wanted to make the point that rather than going with a trusted, experienced guy who really knew what was going on, as he had with Tom Hagen, Michael was now entrusting the family's "legitimate" legal business to a guy who was all image, no substance. My own feeling is they simply should have recast the part of Tom Hagen, if they couldn't re-sign Duvall to do it -- signed Michael Moriarity or I suppose maybe Ed Harris to play it (although Harris would have been too young). Gene Hackman could have carried it off too, although he probably would have wanted more money than Duvall to do it.
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Re: Why Sofia Coppola
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12/05/06 12:13 PM
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He used his father to make the music which was outstanding, his sister Talia Shire to play connie, and she was also great. His daughter was a last minute replacement, and as I have said a billion times she wasnt all that horrible.
I agree Hamilton was miscast, but I think Coppola for whatever reason put B list actors in bit parts. The guy who played Merle was some 50's pretty boy whose stage mane escapes me (his real name was Merle. Anyone know who I am talking about? His name was Troy Donahue although his real name is Merle Johnson. YES!! thats it. I think it is some kind of inside joke of FFC to use Troy and George in these parts. He also used comedian Don Novello to play the press agent.
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Re: Why Sofia Coppola
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12/05/06 01:44 PM
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John Wayne as Ghengis Khan may take the cake. His greatest line in that movie was to Rita Hayworth when he said: "you look beautiful in your wrath."
"Io sono stanco, sono imbigliato, and I wan't everyone here to know, there ain't gonna be no trouble from me..Don Corleone..Cicc' a port!"
"I stood in the courtroom like a fool."
"I am Constanza: Lord of the idiots."
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No need for a roll of the eyes. 
