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Re: Books you just read discussion
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01/22/07 09:47 PM
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The books I have just finished are: Donnie Brasco The Way of the Wiseguy Cosa Nostra: A History of the Sicilian Mafia Wise-Guys The Last Gangster (hated it, really) The Godfather Men of Honor
Godere essendo italiano, from Palermo to New York - My Voyage, My Life
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Re: Books you just read discussion
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02/03/07 12:18 PM
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Picked these up at Barnes & Noble yesterday: The Edgar Allan Poe book I picked up is different than the one pictured. But it is a complete and unabridged collection of his works. I've heard mixed reviews of Harris' Hannibal Rising, but I enjoyed the other 3 books in the series, so I thought I'd give this one a go.
"Growing up my dad was like 'You have a great last name, Galifianakis. Galifianakis...begins with a gal...and ends with a kiss...' I'm like that's great dad, can we get it changed to 'Galifianafuck' please?" -- Zach Galifianakis
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Re: Books you just read discussion
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02/03/07 02:44 PM
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I always go through stages of reading non stop to not reading at all. I'm exactly the same. I should definitely read more; I'm incredibly under-read. No excuse, really, since when I'm reading I feel very balanced out and logical. Saying that, earlier this week I read Heart of Darkness by Joseph Conrad, for the second time in total and the first time in ages. It inspires me so much. A lot of my flatmates had to read it too, for our English unit, and it was their first time reading it. The general consensus is that everybody was waiting for it to begin then suddenly it was over. That's why I love it; to me it's the entire point. Marlow gets to the core of the jungle, the mystery of the entire book, the heart of the darkness, and what we get are two words, each said twice, which kind of engulfs everything before and after it in a completely devastating, nihilistic disgust. It's as if writing for Conrad was a way of purging himself of his own burdens, and in doing so has passed the disease onto us. It's a fascinating read, primarily because of its form, its narrative, its multi-layering of events, its bringing together of fragments of different stories of the same man, and accumulating a myth so profound, so extraordinary, so God-like, that when we find he's a human being dying of death, we don't pity him at all but feel incredibly disappointed. How selfish we are as readers. How selfish the Company was to expect of Kurtz anything less than conformism. As a brief, slightly reductive comparison, the only real point in Apocalypse Now that really captures the intensity of Kurtz's enigma is when Brando first steps out of the shadows and his eyes stare into the camera, his face half in shadow... and there are numerous moments in the narration where Willard makes direct reference to the man up the river, the goal ahead, reminding us why we're even experiencing the film in the first place... having been momentarily distracted by napalm and surfing.
...dot com bold typeface rhetoric. You go clickety click and get your head split. 'The hell you look like on a message board Discussing whether or not the Brother is hardcore?
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Re: Books you just read discussion
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02/08/07 10:25 AM
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I always go through stages of reading non stop to not reading at all. I'm exactly the same. I should definitely read more; I'm incredibly under-read. No excuse, really, since when I'm reading I feel very balanced out and logical. Saying that, earlier this week I read Heart of Darkness by Joseph Conrad, for the second time in total and the first time in ages. It inspires me so much. A lot of my flatmates had to read it too, for our English unit, and it was their first time reading it. The general consensus is that everybody was waiting for it to begin then suddenly it was over. That's why I love it; to me it's the entire point. Marlow gets to the core of the jungle, the mystery of the entire book, the heart of the darkness, and what we get are two words, each said twice, which kind of engulfs everything before and after it in a completely devastating, nihilistic disgust. It's as if writing for Conrad was a way of purging himself of his own burdens, and in doing so has passed the disease onto us. It's a fascinating read, primarily because of its form, its narrative, its multi-layering of events, its bringing together of fragments of different stories of the same man, and accumulating a myth so profound, so extraordinary, so God-like, that when we find he's a human being dying of death, we don't pity him at all but feel incredibly disappointed. How selfish we are as readers. How selfish the Company was to expect of Kurtz anything less than conformism. As a brief, slightly reductive comparison, the only real point in Apocalypse Now that really captures the intensity of Kurtz's enigma is when Brando first steps out of the shadows and his eyes stare into the camera, his face half in shadow... and there are numerous moments in the narration where Willard makes direct reference to the man up the river, the goal ahead, reminding us why we're even experiencing the film in the first place... having been momentarily distracted by napalm and surfing. Very impressive insight and analysis.
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Re: Books you just read discussion
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02/12/07 01:02 PM
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I just finished reading Hannibal Rising.
Without going into too much detail, I'll say this much: The book was good, not great, and definitely not as bad as most have said it is.
It's interesting to see the early life of Hannibal Lecter, but my biggest complaint is Thomas Harris' attempt to humanize Lecter. Reading and watching The Silence of the Lambs, the character of Hannibal Lecter is a complete psychopath, and he sends chills up your spine whenever he speaks.
Hannibal Rising effectively turns Lecter into a tragic figure, a victim of a traumatic childhood. It somewhat diminishes the mystery and legend of the character.
Nevertheless, it was an enjoyable read, albeit a tad disappointing. I don't know if I can fully recommend it, though. It was definitely better than Hannibal, so you may wanna give it a look, SB. Maybe check it out at the library?
"Growing up my dad was like 'You have a great last name, Galifianakis. Galifianakis...begins with a gal...and ends with a kiss...' I'm like that's great dad, can we get it changed to 'Galifianafuck' please?" -- Zach Galifianakis
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Re: Books you just read discussion
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02/12/07 05:23 PM
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Factotum by Charles Bukowski...anyone read it..it shits all over the movie..i was dissapointed with that film as im a fan of the book and even the movie Barfly which was loosely based
So say goodnight to the bad guy..eh cause its the last time your ever gonna see a bad guy like this again let me tell you/O.K!! im reloaded!!You motherfuckers think your big time!!!Your gonna die big time!!!O.K Here come the pain!!!
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Re: Books you just read discussion
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02/12/07 08:02 PM
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MM, my old teacher's hero is Bukowski. he's a great story teller may he rest in piece
So say goodnight to the bad guy..eh cause its the last time your ever gonna see a bad guy like this again let me tell you/O.K!! im reloaded!!You motherfuckers think your big time!!!Your gonna die big time!!!O.K Here come the pain!!!
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Re: Books you just read discussion
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02/22/07 02:36 PM
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I've just finished reading If on a winter's night a traveller, by Italo Calvino.
And what, a book. Astonishing; deeply self-consious, -reflexive and -obsessed. Goodness, Calvino is a fantastic linguist, all too aware that his writing is translated into English the world over so that people can read his novels; it's obsessed with who might be reading it, what kind of person might be reading his words, and what they make of them, what they bring to them, what they expect from them, and from him, as the author.
I love this kind of stuff. It switches from first person to third person to second person, from present tense to past tense, from one space to another, from one time to another still, all with one brush-stroke, with one turn, in the same sentence. It's so densely obsessed with its own literary fabrication, it's almost anti-imagery, as if to form images in the mind when reading a novel is to relate it to a possible cinematic or painterly adaptation, and he doesn't want that at all; he makes you conscious from the very start to the very finish that you are not only reading a novel, but you are reading his novel.
Questions of authorship, readership, reality, the text as a mirror, the text as written by one person, the text as written by everybody at the same time, the text as one chapter in a bookshop full of texts; how meaning is fabricated, how interpretation is formed. It's like a very creative, elongated essay of literary criticism, and a very convincing and thrilling one at that. I've never read anything quite like it.
You must read it soon, if this brief "synopsis" gets your juices flowing.
...dot com bold typeface rhetoric. You go clickety click and get your head split. 'The hell you look like on a message board Discussing whether or not the Brother is hardcore?
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Re: Books you just read discussion
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03/03/07 01:02 AM
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Picked this up while I was in California. I read (and enjoyed) Holy Blood, Holy Grail and The Da Vinci Code, so I thought I'd give this a go. I consider myself a Christian, but I'm not afraid (or too proud) to look at things from both sides. I've always been fascinated with the history of Christianity (and religion in general.)
"Growing up my dad was like 'You have a great last name, Galifianakis. Galifianakis...begins with a gal...and ends with a kiss...' I'm like that's great dad, can we get it changed to 'Galifianafuck' please?" -- Zach Galifianakis
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Re: Books you just read discussion
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03/04/07 02:36 PM
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X, I just finished reading Hannibal Rising. I thought it was much better written than Hannibal, but too filled with easy reasons as to WHY he became Hannibal the Cannibal. That was my main complaint with the story. You watch a film like Silence of the Lambs or Red Dragon...and you're chilled to the core at the mere sight of Hannibal (played brilliantly by Sir Anthony Hopkins.) In Hannibal Rising...I don't get that feeling. I didn't feel as though he was becoming a monster by what he was doing. He was seeking revenge, and I actually found myself rooting him on when he tracked down these men. They deserved to die, and they died in very deservingly sadistic ways. It was a very fascinating read, but I feel Thomas Harris did too much to try and humanize Lecter.
"Growing up my dad was like 'You have a great last name, Galifianakis. Galifianakis...begins with a gal...and ends with a kiss...' I'm like that's great dad, can we get it changed to 'Galifianafuck' please?" -- Zach Galifianakis
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