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Re: Mob myths, facts and realities
[Re: DoctorTwink]
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08/08/14 12:47 AM
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The biggest myth is that you must be completely Italian, have an Italian last name, or be Italian on your father's side only to join or even be made.
They allow people who are 1/2, 1/4, 1/8th or even less Italian in their heritage join as long as they are white and look Italian or Mediterranean.
This myth is perpetuated by movies and TV shows which are full of wrong misinformation masquerading as fact. How can you know for sure? Not that I'm disagreeing but I think you should at least have an Italian last name to get made, at least in NY. I haven't heard of any made guys who don't have Italian names... I think I remember one or two in smaller families, but not in NY.
-I shot him a coupla' times. -What's a couple? -Hmm, more than a couple... Really I don't know the exact amount, maybe I shot him 10 times, 12 times? -Maybe fifteen? -Hmm, it could've been fifteen...
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Re: Mob myths, facts and realities
[Re: DoctorTwink]
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08/09/14 11:04 AM
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The biggest myth is that you must be completely Italian, have an Italian last name, or be Italian on your father's side only to join or even be made.
They allow people who are 1/2, 1/4, 1/8th or even less Italian in their heritage join as long as they are white and look Italian or Mediterranean.
This myth is perpetuated by movies and TV shows which are full of wrong misinformation masquerading as fact. False. While there are examples of guys getting made who were half Italian, almost always they had last names that were Italian. And in recent years that relaxing of the rules to allow non-Italians in has been curbed. You gotta be full blood or damn near close to it.
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Re: Mob myths, facts and realities
[Re: Malandrino]
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08/16/14 08:53 AM
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The biggest myth is that you must be completely Italian, have an Italian last name, or be Italian on your father's side only to join or even be made.
They allow people who are 1/2, 1/4, 1/8th or even less Italian in their heritage join as long as they are white and look Italian or Mediterranean.
This myth is perpetuated by movies and TV shows which are full of wrong misinformation masquerading as fact. How can you know for sure? Not that I'm disagreeing but I think you should at least have an Italian last name to get made, at least in NY. I haven't heard of any made guys who don't have Italian names... I think I remember one or two in smaller families, but not in NY. NYC and the so called "families" there are not the standard for who gets to join or get "made". For those in the know it's a total myth that you must be completely Italian, be 50% with a heritage on your father's side, or even have a last name. You do have to have some Italian heritage but it does not even have to be 50% or on only your father's side.
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Re: Mob myths, facts and realities
[Re: Malandrino]
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08/21/14 06:42 PM
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The biggest myth is that you must be completely Italian, have an Italian last name, or be Italian on your father's side only to join or even be made.
They allow people who are 1/2, 1/4, 1/8th or even less Italian in their heritage join as long as they are white and look Italian or Mediterranean.
This myth is perpetuated by movies and TV shows which are full of wrong misinformation masquerading as fact. How can you know for sure? Not that I'm disagreeing but I think you should at least have an Italian last name to get made, at least in NY. I haven't heard of any made guys who don't have Italian names... I think I remember one or two in smaller families, but not in NY. What about Joe 'The German' Watts. I thought he was a made guy in the Gambinos? If not, he wielded just as much power as one who was made.
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Re: Mob myths, facts and realities
[Re: Turnbull]
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08/22/14 02:20 PM
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Called himself "2 gun Hart". He was the constable in his little town, and as such had keys to the stores. When they started to come up missing merchandise ( including his own father in law, "2 gun" was dismissed. He also conned the local American Legion post into believing he was a big hero in the war, when of course, he never went, and was found out, and thrown out of the post. Guy was a total loser, and in the end, broke, his kids with nothing to eat, accepted charity from Al.
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Re: Mob myths, facts and realities
[Re: FrankMazola]
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08/22/14 02:26 PM
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The biggest myth is that you must be completely Italian, have an Italian last name, or be Italian on your father's side only to join or even be made.
They allow people who are 1/2, 1/4, 1/8th or even less Italian in their heritage join as long as they are white and look Italian or Mediterranean.
This myth is perpetuated by movies and TV shows which are full of wrong misinformation masquerading as fact. False. While there are examples of guys getting made who were half Italian, almost always they had last names that were Italian. And in recent years that relaxing of the rules to allow non-Italians in has been curbed. You gotta be full blood or damn near close to it. John Veasey was I believe a 1/4 Italian. The surname Veasey is also French. What is the make up of Frank Martines?
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Re: Mob myths, facts and realities
[Re: ShotgunTheRifle]
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08/26/14 03:56 AM
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John Veasey was I believe a 1/4 Italian. The surname Veasey is also French.
What is the make up of Frank Martines? Are you John Veasey? You're the only guy here that mentions his name .
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Re: Mob myths, facts and realities
[Re: Beanshooter]
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09/09/14 05:01 PM
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No they are not myths. Check out Tony Bananas Caponigro as an example of what you wrote. Yea I know exactly who you are talking about. I've been into learning about cosa nostra since I've been a kid but always have questions. There's a lot I know about these gangsters from what I read or heard from my family but since I'm a chick I feel I should hold back and keep quiet (most of the time) cuz I'm new to this site and want to be respectful to the people posting who have been on here for awhile. If that makes any sense. What about poison? I know it's been used on civilians but were any guys rubbed out this way?
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Re: Mob myths, facts and realities
[Re: Binnie_Coll]
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09/17/14 06:51 PM
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biggest myth of all "we only kill our own" That sounds like a line out of an old classic movie. I think that the real myth is that A MOBSTER ACTUALLY SAID "We only kill our own." These wiseguys need to make money. If you get in their way, you're gonna pay one way or another, sometimes with your life. That has always been understood by people who live in the neighborhoods these guys are in.
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Re: Mob myths, facts and realities
[Re: Alfanosgirl]
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09/17/14 08:30 PM
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I know that the Italians will only only use one undertaker. Then the sons take over and the next generation uses the sons as undertakers. Is this the same for mob guys? What is the significance of an undertaker? There was an undertaker in east Harlem that we all used. Cordovano they moved from Harlem to a place called Carmel, NY. We still use them the name as changed to something like Belsamo-Cordovano. Someone kicks off they come bring the stiff to the funeral home of your choice. Put the dead guy in the OB in a paper. Do they still print papers any more? They treat you like old friends who you can't really remember They make sure everyone has a good time when a loved one kicks off. In my case my wife will use some guy her family knows. Me fuck that just want to be buried at my soccer field so I don't miss any games just because I am dead. It is illegal to do what I want to do. I already made arrangements for it to happen my way. I don't want any one at my service when I go.my family knows that my wife is upset about it. We have a plot here in Brooklyn. She actually thought we will be buried together. I told her if we die at the same time then ok. If not just think of it as separate vacations.
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Re: Mob myths, facts and realities
[Re: Footreads]
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09/17/14 08:40 PM
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There was an undertaker in east Harlem that we all used. Cordovano they moved from Harlem to a place called Carmel, NY.
They're still there. They're partners with Ralphie Balsamo now in the Carmel location (and being that Ralphie's a made guy, I guess it's appropriate of this website ). Anyway, I did a lot of work out of Harlem when I first started in the funeral business. I know the Cordovanos all my life. Hell, I was doing pallbearer carries for New York Mortuary on First Avenue when I was like 15 years old. That's 1974-1975. Louie on 116th. Casario on 106th. There were a dozen little storefront funeral homes in East Harlem back then. Today Ortiz owns most of them.
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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Re: Mob myths, facts and realities
[Re: Footreads]
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09/19/14 06:33 PM
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I know that the Italians will only only use one undertaker. Then the sons take over and the next generation uses the sons as undertakers. Is this the same for mob guys? What is the significance of an undertaker? There was an undertaker in east Harlem that we all used. Cordovano they moved from Harlem to a place called Carmel, NY. We still use them the name as changed to something like Belsamo-Cordovano. Someone kicks off they come bring the stiff to the funeral home of your choice. Put the dead guy in the OB in a paper. Do they still print papers any more? They treat you like old friends who you can't really remember They make sure everyone has a good time when a loved one kicks off. In my case my wife will use some guy her family knows. Me fuck that just want to be buried at my soccer field so I don't miss any games just because I am dead. It is illegal to do what I want to do. I already made arrangements for it to happen my way. I don't want any one at my service when I go.my family knows that my wife is upset about it. We have a plot here in Brooklyn. She actually thought we will be buried together. I told her if we die at the same time then ok. If not just think of it as separate vacations. LMAO You've already made arrangements for your illegal burial but you know you're gonna end up in that plot in Brooklyn if you go first My husband and I have agreed that if I'm suffering in pain he's gonna drive me to the desert put two behind the ear and let nature finish the rest just kidding. Good stuff Footreads.
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Re: Mob myths, facts and realities
[Re: Alfanosgirl]
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09/19/14 06:50 PM
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I know that the Italians will only only use one undertaker. Then the sons take over and the next generation uses the sons as undertakers. Is this the same for mob guys? What is the significance of an undertaker? There was an undertaker in east Harlem that we all used. Cordovano they moved from Harlem to a place called Carmel, NY. We still use them the name as changed to something like Belsamo-Cordovano. Someone kicks off they come bring the stiff to the funeral home of your choice. Put the dead guy in the OB in a paper. Do they still print papers any more? They treat you like old friends who you can't really remember They make sure everyone has a good time when a loved one kicks off. In my case my wife will use some guy her family knows. Me fuck that just want to be buried at my soccer field so I don't miss any games just because I am dead. It is illegal to do what I want to do. I already made arrangements for it to happen my way. I don't want any one at my service when I go.my family knows that my wife is upset about it. We have a plot here in Brooklyn. She actually thought we will be buried together. I told her if we die at the same time then ok. If not just think of it as separate vacations. LMAO You've already made arrangements for your illegal burial but you know you're gonna end up in that plot in Brooklyn if you go first My husband and I have agreed that if I'm suffering in pain he's gonna drive me to the desert put two behind the ear and let nature finish the rest just kidding. Good stuff Footreads. Yeah were going to sell off our organs I can live with one Kidney
Yeah Your Gangster Alright!! Keep making excuses on why our country is in bad shape just admit your a hump already
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Re: Mob myths, facts and realities
[Re: granchild411]
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09/24/14 07:43 AM
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What if i told you big paul costelano was wearing ceramic bullet proof vest that night in 1985 new york . Went into hiding oversees That would be awesome....but he was shot in the head...
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