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Re: 2007 Fantasy Baseball (Yahoo Draft)
[Re: Beth E]
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03/07/07 12:19 AM
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When does the Salary Cap league get started? Is there going to be a salary cap league? I prefer those when it comes to baseball, but I'll play both.
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Re: 2007 Fantasy Baseball (Yahoo Draft)
[Re: Just Lou]
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03/07/07 09:35 AM
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As for the limit on innings, there is no possible way to know how many innings your starters are going to pitch. Correct me if I'm wrong, but counting relief innings pitched is going to punish people with excellent starters. If you have great starting pitchers that make it past the 7th inning in most of their starts, your relief pitchers are going to be an almost non-factor by the end of the season. In a real baseball season, if your team has SPs that pitch through the 7th inning everyday, doesn't it mean your relief pitchers pitch less innings. And if you have crappy SPs, your RPs will pitch a lot of innings. Why wouldn't this be also the case in fantasy baseball? Isn't the point of fantasy baseball to simulate a real baseball season? In any case, I'm fine either way. Like JL said, we'll just draft accordingly to the settings.
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Re: 2007 Fantasy Baseball (Yahoo Draft)
[Re: Don Cardi]
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03/07/07 09:39 AM
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If there is concern about someone maipulating their pitching staff by dropping and signing relief pitchers, or pitchers for that matter, then set a limit on moves. That will stop any attempt at manipulating the free agent / waiver market.
Don Malta, Don Sicilia, is this an option that you would consider in lieu of setting a max innings pitched? Don Cardi Personally, I'd rather not set a limit on the number of transactions (which also includes trades).
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Re: 2007 Fantasy Baseball (Yahoo Draft)
[Re: Don Sicilia]
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03/07/07 03:24 PM
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I didn't review all of Plaw's analyses from last year, but.....
MLB teams carry a 25-man roster for most of the regular season, and all of the post season. The way it's set up now, it's the same for our league:
C, 1B, 2B, 3B, SS, LF, CF, RF, Util/DH, SP, SP, SP, SP, SP, SP, RP, RP, RP, RP, RP, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN
(I'm fairly certain that BN positions are split up between hitters and pitchers, if I remember correctly)
Real teams have 11-12 pitchers on their active roster: 5 SP's and 6-7 RP's. Our six SP's could really be cut to 5, like a typical squad. I don't mind have a 6th as a reserve, but something else to think about.
Although obviously teams stick with the usual 2-4 RP's on any good outing (closer, set-up man, long/short relievers, lefty/righty specialists)... they could go through almost all of them in a long game.
There are only really a handful of great closers out there, so limiting RPs to 2 slots would in effect, I think, eliminate most of the use of middle relievers. And with only 2 RP slots, you could easily go days without any pitching points whatsoever. There are only 5 Bench slots for your entire team (if I remember correctly?), so I don't think 2 RP slots would cut it unless we increased the Bench limit; otherwise most of the RPs will be unused in the free agent pool.
Another thing to consider is that SP's get 30-something starts/season... RPs can pitch 60-80+ games/season, which is a lot of innings. Non-closing RP's also are more susceptible to getting awarded with W's and L's than closers are, so I think we need them.
To be most realistic, we'd have 5 SP's and 6 RP's. But obviously most of the fun in fantasy is with offense so I don't mind putting more concentration on that. But we can still only play 9 offensive players/day.
I think we should consider lowering SP's from 6 to 5, leaving RP's at 4-5 (altho 6 would be most realistic), and creating another Bench slot(s) for however a manager chooses to use it/them (hitters or pitchers).
Thoughts?
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Re: 2007 Fantasy Baseball (Yahoo Draft)
[Re: Just Lou]
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03/07/07 04:00 PM
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I haven't gotten my head entirely around this "RP manipulation" concept yet. RP's may go days between appearing in games -- even if you have 5 RP's in your lineup every single day of the season, there's absolutely no guarantee that more than a couple, or even any, would appear on any given day. Dropping RP's every day would freeze them for the 2-day waiver period, so there's no guarantee you'd get them back before someone else snagged them anyway. I just can't see how such a strategy would benefit anyone; if anything, it'd be a comical exercise in futility I would think...  I think the best RP strategy -- in fact, for any position -- despite how many active roster slots we get, would be to carry and play the best RPs you can. No one in their right mind should drop a good RP just because his team isn't playing the next day! (I wouldn't complain if they did, tho!  ) Or am I missing something here?
I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey!  lol Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin My DVDs | Facebook | Godfather Filming Locations
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Re: 2007 Fantasy Baseball (Yahoo Draft)
[Re: J Geoff]
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03/07/07 04:20 PM
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On another note, I would like to present here ALL the options I have, as Commish, in this game - as far as stat categories. I think what we have now is fine (designated with astrisks), but someone may notice something else that'd be cool, too: Games Played (GP) Games Started (GS) At Bats (AB) * Runs (R) Hits (H) * Singles (1B) * Doubles (2B) * Triples (3B) * Home Runs (HR) * Runs Batted In (RBI) Sacrifice Hits (SH) Sacrifice Flys (SF) * Stolen Bases (SB) * Caught Stealing (CS) * Walks (BB) Intentional Walks (IBB) * Hit By Pitch (HBP) Strikeouts (K) * Ground Into Double Play (GIDP) Total Bases (TB) Putouts (PO) Assists (A) Errors (E)
The only other one I'd consider, perhaps, is -1 for Errors. Maybe add a bit of a defensive element to our hitters? Just something to consider as we could add 4 more stat categories to Batting if we wanted. Pitching Appearances (APP) * Games Started (GS) Innings Pitched (IP) * Wins (W) * Losses (L) * Complete Games (CG) * Shutouts (SHO) * Saves (SV) * Outs (OUT) * Hits (H) Total Batters Faced (TBF) Runs (R) * Earned Runs (ER) Home Runs (HR) * Walks (BB) Intentional Walks (IBB) * Hit Batters (HBP) * Strikeouts (K) * Wild Pitches (WP) Balks (BLK) Stolen Bases Allowed (SB) Batters Grounded Into Double Plays (GIDP) * Save Chances (SVOP) * Holds (HLD) Total Bases Allowed (TB)
Currently we're at our 15 category max for pitching stats, but perhaps someone will notice a better one. Nothing pops out to me right away, but I don't recall if IBB's were counted under BB's or not... Again, just presenting all our options...
I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey!  lol Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin My DVDs | Facebook | Godfather Filming Locations
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Re: 2007 Fantasy Baseball (Yahoo Draft)
[Re: Just Lou]
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03/07/07 04:31 PM
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I agree with you. I don't think RP manipulation is really a potential problem. That's why I don't like the RP innings figuring into a "Max Innings Pitched". I don't think using "Max Innings Pitched" would help anything at all. Sure, 9 innings x 162 = 1458 innings/season, not counting extra inning games. The max I can set is 2000. But no fantasy team will ever come close to even 1400 innings probably, maybe not even 1300, since our lineups cover many different teams, not just one. I don't think that'll help. But at the same time, I still don't feel there was much of a problem ("manipulation") last year, and as I wrote in a previous post, don't think one could really use it to their advantage much. I would like 4-5 RPs still, tho. BTW - I wrote to the Yahoo Commish suggesting that they add "Maximum games played per position (SP's)" to the game, and (after a reply that was unrelated to my suggestion  ) they thanked me for it and will "consider it" for the future (yeah, right).
I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey!  lol Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin My DVDs | Facebook | Godfather Filming Locations
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