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Re: 2007 Fantasy Baseball (Yahoo Draft)
[Re: Just Lou]
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03/23/07 08:25 PM
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J Geoff
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I've been meaning to ask that myself... where do we stand on that stuff? 
I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey!  lol Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin My DVDs | Facebook | Godfather Filming Locations
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Re: 2007 Fantasy Baseball (Yahoo Draft)
[Re: J Geoff]
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03/23/07 08:58 PM
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Well, here's how I feel one final time. "Saves" need a net value of more than 2, and "Save Opportunities" should be less than -8. We don't need 5 active relief pitchers everyday. 3 or 4 is more than enough. Stolen Bases should be worth 2 points, so speed will have some value in this game.
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Re: 2007 Fantasy Baseball (Yahoo Draft)
[Re: Just Lou]
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03/24/07 03:08 AM
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I agree with the stolen bases being worth two. There is a lot less speed in the league than power, and giving a stolen base two points gives different players value rather than just relying on the power guys. It gives guys like Juan Pierre and Dave Roberts, guys who hit very few home runs, value because they are good at what they do. Lots of little hits, then stealing bases.
If a guy is known for getting an infield+ hit then stealing a bag, that basically equals one point for the hit, and one point for the steal right? Similar to a guy hitting a double. But people forget that someone who can steal bases disrupts the pitcher, therefore leading to runs scored because the pitcher is taking some of his attention away from the hitter and focusing on the runner. Guys that can successfully do that are rare and deserve more respect in my opinion.
Not to mention we subtract for getting caught stealing. Maybe this is a bad argument, but power hitters aren't docked for fly outs. I know that's ridiculous, but I guess I just want to give some more credibility to guys who play the game of speed rather than power.
I also feel that we have too many relief pitchers, but don't necessarily feel as strongly about that. If we decide to have 5 then I will take that as part of the strategy.
Last edited by Blibbleblabble; 03/24/07 03:17 AM.
"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want." -Calvin and Hobbes
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Re: 2007 Fantasy Baseball (Yahoo Draft)
[Re: Blibbleblabble]
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03/24/07 12:43 PM
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Okay, valid points...
I'll change SB from +1 to +2 I'll leave CS at -1
As for Saves, right now it's +8 for a Save, and -6 for the opportunity. So a Save is worth +2, and a botched save is -6. A W is +7 and an L is -6. So a BS/L comes out to -12. (To explain the confusion: Yahoo doesn't have a BS modifier for some reason, that's why assigning a negative value from the outset is necessary, to build that penalty in.)
I don't want to increase the value of a Save too much, because we still need non-closers to have some value. Would a net of +3 be enough for a Save? That is, -5 for the opportunity?
I've added Sac Flies, and assigned it +1.
As for # of RPs, I'm still uncertain that lowering it from 5 would make any difference. There's no guarantee any will pitch on any given day, so there really isn't much one can do, strategy wise, in that regard. Final thoughts on that?
I'm also with the No Max Innings Pitched camp, so haven't changed that. I will monitor the 162 game max for SPs at the end of the season.
Okay, so did I miss anything? Thoughts?
I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey!  lol Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin My DVDs | Facebook | Godfather Filming Locations
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Re: 2007 Fantasy Baseball (Yahoo Draft)
[Re: Tony Mosrite]
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03/27/07 06:16 PM
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I care - but there's nothing we can do about it; it's randomly determined 30 mins before the draft starts...  Which, incidentally, is TOMORROW! 
I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey!  lol Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin My DVDs | Facebook | Godfather Filming Locations
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Re: 2007 Fantasy Baseball (Yahoo Draft)
[Re: Don Sicilia]
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03/27/07 06:21 PM
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I don't know if they've changed it, but in the past, the Commish had the ability to set the draft order. Well, whattaya know! My paypal address is jgeoff@jgeoff.com -- whoever sends me the most within the next 12 hours picks their draft spot first, and down the line...... hurry, and don't donate too little!  I think random is fine. 
I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey!  lol Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin My DVDs | Facebook | Godfather Filming Locations
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Re: 2007 Fantasy Baseball (Yahoo Draft)
[Re: Just Lou]
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03/28/07 02:38 AM
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Random?  That blows. Ummm.... that's how we've always done it... and if I remember correctly, you've always played... so I'm not sure where the confusion comes from all of a sudden. 
I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey!  lol Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin My DVDs | Facebook | Godfather Filming Locations
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Re: 2007 Fantasy Baseball (Yahoo Draft)
[Re: Don Sicilia]
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03/28/07 11:12 AM
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I don't know about you guys but I'm excited  I've only played in Rotisserie style Salary Cap games in the past, so I am looking forward to this live draft. Plus it's been a few years since I've played in a fantasy league at all.
"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want." -Calvin and Hobbes
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Re: 2007 Fantasy Baseball (Yahoo Draft)
[Re: Don Sicilia]
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03/28/07 11:51 AM
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From what I remember, I believe Plaw enlisted someone's help (SC? Turnbull?) to help randomize the draft order in advance. I don't recall that.  If you want me to come up with a random draft order this afternoon, let me know. I could assign #s to each of us, and then have someone on the board give me a random order of #s and assign them that way.
I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey!  lol Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin My DVDs | Facebook | Godfather Filming Locations
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Re: 2007 Fantasy Baseball (Yahoo Draft)
[Re: Blibbleblabble]
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03/28/07 12:02 PM
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Bedroom Bombers = Tony Mosrite Douche Bigelow = Don Sicilia You don't know who J Geoff is?? 
I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey!  lol Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin My DVDs | Facebook | Godfather Filming Locations
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Re: 2007 Fantasy Baseball (Yahoo Draft)
[Re: J Geoff]
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03/28/07 12:19 PM
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You don't know who J Geoff is?? No, who is it? So unless someone joins last minute, here is the league: DMC = DonMichaelCorleone Cincinnati Kid = Don Alessandrio Rated R Superstar = ap_capone48101 Fightin' Phils = Freddie C. hGH United = Blibbleblabble Bedroom Bombers = Tony Mosrite Douche Bigelow = Don Sicilia Just Lou = Just Lou J Geoff = J Geoff
"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want." -Calvin and Hobbes
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Re: 2007 Fantasy Baseball (Yahoo Draft)
[Re: Just Lou]
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03/28/07 12:56 PM
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I'm gonna do it in a public thread so everyone can see proof of the results... 
I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey!  lol Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin My DVDs | Facebook | Godfather Filming Locations
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Re: 2007 Fantasy Baseball (Yahoo Draft)
[Re: Just Lou]
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03/28/07 01:17 PM
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I've been getting constant time-outs.
Have you been a bad boy?
How about a little less questions and a lot more shut the hell up - Brian Griffin
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Re: 2007 Fantasy Baseball (Yahoo Draft)
[Re: Beth E]
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03/28/07 01:20 PM
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Is it kosher to determine the draft order while the game is still accepting new teams? Or should I not worry about that, and just add any (unlikely, but possible) new teams to the end of the order? Or should I just lock it at 9 teams? PS - Yeah, I've noticed the timeouts, too 
Last edited by J Geoff; 03/28/07 01:21 PM.
I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey!  lol Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin My DVDs | Facebook | Godfather Filming Locations
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