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Re: How bout them Yankees!? [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #381808
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 Originally Posted By: ronnierocketAGO
Huh? You're still pissed over a Michael Bay movie?

Besides, you mentioned that you saw BAD BOYS....and I wondered whatever or not you had reviewed it. I believed at the time that you had. Also, you had comments of how you *liked* it.


I'm not pissed, I'm using it as an example to prove my point. And again, I haven't seen Bad Boys in years, so I don't know why you continue to say that I saw it. Yes I've seen them and own both the movies on DVD.


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I do have a question....do winning the first game of the season really matter as much, or is it just a nice morale boast for fans and the dugout?


Nice morale boast. It is only the first game of the season with 161 left, but when your closer blows the lead in the 9th and your team losses, it doesn't build a lot of confidence with the fans in that player.

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 Originally Posted By: Irishman12
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I still bet you argue with everyone you meet and talk sports with. AND to strighten you out once more....This is not "thread for Yankees fan". Its title is "How bout them Yankees!?" So that means the Yankees are the subject...Good Bad or anything else that someone would like to post.


Yes I do engage in conversations with others when they try to pull that "the Yankees buy championships" ignorant mentality. In fact I rubbed it in a classmates face last night that the Yankees won on Monday and her precious Astros lost (by blowing the lead in the 9th). It's usually all in good fun but some, like yourself, have to take it too far and personal. JEEZ! Oh and by the way, I can easily change the title of this thread to Yankees Fans Only. Would you prefer that?


 Originally Posted By: fathersson
The only one who has posted anti Yankee thoughts on here this week is you!


What did I post that was anti-Yankee?

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I would have thought that you may have learned your lesson after the last two years, when you had to eat crow after your taunts against any non-Yankee fan, or try and twist things around to make other teams look as sad.


But see, that's where you went wrong fathersson, you thought (and you thought wrong). It's a brand new year, the Yankees STILL have the best lineup in baseball. The pen's looking better. Really the only question mark is the rotation. And if the Yankees get Clemens at the All-Star break, that shouldn't be too much of a problem anymore. You're Tigers might flop though due to the enormous expectations that are on them this season. Only time will tell. Come talk to me in October. Between now and then, we have nothing further to discuss.

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You BULLY!
Aww, everyone let's hear it for fathersson It's ok, have a warm glass of milk and just cry yourself to sleep.


It is called Sarcasam. Like you could ever be a bully-
In fact I bet you had a lot of people picking on you over the years.

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Yes I do engage in conversations with others when they try to pull that "the Yankees buy championships" ignorant mentality. In fact I rubbed it in a classmates face last night

Yes, you love hearing that about the Yankees don't you. Sets you right off doesn't it. The real facts is that the Yankees couldn't even BUY the Championship now could they.
and yes, I can see why you are so popular around school you try to rub things in your classmates faces, so sad. They all seem to find you out and pick on your poor Yankees now don't they. You need to take anger management courses or go to the Yankee withdrwal ward at least.


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It's a brand new year, the Yankees STILL have the best lineup in baseball. The pen's looking better. Really the only question mark is the rotation. And if the Yankees get Clemens at the All-Star break, that shouldn't be too much of a problem anymore.


Read PLawrence post on page #1- some people will never learn-

My Tigers, My Redsox, My Cards....you are the one giving me all these teams. I hate to tell you Irish- I am a YANKEE FAN!

and like I said before - YOU ARE the Yankee fan that other Yankee fans love to hate

So stop giving us a bad name.


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Everyone should read. "HOW TO KILL A MOCKING BIRD"

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Re: How bout them Yankees!? [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #381810
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 Originally Posted By: ronnierocketAGO
Huh? You're still pissed over a Michael Bay movie?

Besides, you mentioned that you saw BAD BOYS....and I wondered whatever or not you had reviewed it. I believed at the time that you had. Also, you had comments of how you *liked* it.

Anyway, How is this Yankee related anyway? ;\)

I do have a question....do winning the first game of the season really matter as much, or is it just a nice morale boast for fans and the dugout?


Ronnie, now leave Irish alone. After reading that review on ROUNDERS, I have a new respect for this talent as a writer.


ONLY gun owners have the POWER to PROTECT and PRESERVE our FREEDOM.
"...it is their (the people's) right and duty to be at all times armed" - Thomas Jefferson, June 5, 1824

Everyone should read. "HOW TO KILL A MOCKING BIRD"

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You really don't expect people to believe your shit do you?

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 Originally Posted By: fathersson
Yes, you love hearing that about the Yankees don't you. Sets you right off doesn't it. The real facts is that the Yankees couldn't even BUY the Championship now could they.


Then what's the problem? For most problem #1 in baseball is that the Yankees continue to win and "buy" players. Yet they haven't won a World Series since 2000. Now if they win this year, that's all you'll hear is the Yankees bought it.

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and yes, I can see why you are so popular around school you try to rub things in your classmates faces, so sad. They all seem to find you out and pick on your poor Yankees now don't they. You need to take anger management courses or go to the Yankee withdrwal ward at least.


Kind of like yourself, if they're gonna shovel sh*t and say the Astros are the greatest, then they need to be able to take it when they lose and the Yankees win. And I'm good on the anger management/Yankee withdrawal wards. Just passionate baby! Whether loved or hated, I'm proud to be passionate. And it's funny how I don't see many Astro fans out anymore. When they were in the series back in 2005, everywhere you turned their was an Astros fan. I think it's safe to say those bandwagon fans are onto other bandwagon's now.


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My Tigers, My Redsox, My Cards....you are the one giving me all these teams. I hate to tell you Irish- I am a YANKEE FAN!


BLASPHEMOUS!

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Huh? You're still pissed over a Michael Bay movie?

Besides, you mentioned that you saw BAD BOYS....and I wondered whatever or not you had reviewed it. I believed at the time that you had. Also, you had comments of how you *liked* it.

Anyway, How is this Yankee related anyway? ;\)

I do have a question....do winning the first game of the season really matter as much, or is it just a nice morale boast for fans and the dugout?


Ronnie, now leave Irish alone. After reading that review on ROUNDERS, I have a new respect for this talent as a writer.


Speak for yourself And I never said I was a talented writer or film critic. You 2 continue to give me those accolades

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--> ONTOPIC SO THE THREAD DOESN'T GET CLOSED...

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Yankees got rained out today...boo. I had set my VCR, so now I have about three hours of commercials. \:p



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Notes: Damon remains hobbled

NEW YORK -- A day of rest and treatment did little to ease the concerns and pain of Yankees outfielder Johnny Damon, who said he could "barely walk" on Wednesday and was held out of the lineup for a rained-out contest against the Devil Rays.

Damon left the Yankees' Opening Day game after five innings on Monday, suffering from what were originally described as cramps. General manager Brian Cashman amended that diagnosis Wednesday to reflect a calf strain of an unknown degree.

"It's more than cramps," Damon said. "It felt like cramps [Monday], but I've got to go in and figure it out, [and] make sure it's something that could heal as I continue playing.

"I don't want to jump to any conclusions, but I've really got to get it taken care of right now."

Damon spent about an hour on the trainer's table on Wednesday before the scheduled afternoon contest was washed out. The Yankees did not plan to send Damon for tests on Wednesday, though Cashman said it would be a possibility Thursday if Damon does not show improvement.

"The fact that he's still sore today would eliminate the word 'cramp,'" Cashman said. "He's probably got a little strain we're dealing with now."

Yankees manager Joe Torre did not want to look ahead to the worst-case scenario of a disabled-list stint, hoping that one more day of rest could cure what ails Damon.

"I think we'll know more in the next couple of days," Torre said. "He was in here [Tuesday], and it was pretty sore. Hopefully, it's nothing more than a sore calf. Obviously, if it doesn't start getting better, then you become more concerned."

In a pinch, the Yankees would plan to get by with Miguel Cairo as an emergency outfielder behind reserve Melky Cabrera, who would have started in center field Wednesday. They could also promote a Triple-A outfielder such as Kevin Reese or Kevin Thompson if a trip to the DL is necessary.

Both Reese and Thompson have brief Major League experience and were in Spring Training with the Yankees, vying to be the fifth outfielder that the club eventually decided would have been extraneous, favoring a 12th pitcher on the Opening Day roster instead.

"Right now, we're not in that situation," Cashman said.

Wang progressing: Injured ace Chien-Ming Wang continues to rehab his strained right hamstring at the Yankees' Legends Field complex in Tampa, Fla., and appears to be ahead of schedule.

Torre said that Wang could throw in simulated-game conditions by the weekend. He remains on track for a projected late-April return to the Yankees' Major League rotation, with a yet-unspecified number of Minor League rehab starts along the way.

"Everything's good; he's been doing all his drills," Torre said. "Right now, we're very pleased with where he is."

A-Rod joins Winfield: Alex Rodriguez's two-run homer in the eighth inning on Monday tied him with former Yankees outfielder Dave Winfield for 28th place on baseball's all-time home runs list. Yankees bullpen catcher Mike Borzello caught the blast -- the 465th of Rodriguez's career -- in the bullpen after the ball sailed over the left-center-field fence.

Rodriguez said he doesn't give much thought to the milestone, but the third baseman added that he enjoyed watching the Hall of Famer play.

"I love Dave Winfield," he said.

The shot came off of Devil Rays right-hander Juan Salas and left Rodriguez 35 homers shy of the 500-homer plateau. Even so, A-Rod said that he isn't concerned with reaching the milestone this season, though it would certainly appear within reach.

"It's too far away right now," he said.

Villone returns: Left-handed reliever Ron Villone signed a Minor League contract with the Yankees on Wednesday, returning to the organization after a few days away to weigh his options. Villone will report to the Yankees' Triple-A Scranton/Wilkes-Barre club.

Villone, 37, was a non-roster invitee to the Yankees' Spring Training camp and had been considered a candidate to be a second left-handed reliever behind Mike Myers. That spot went to Sean Henn instead, as Villone struggled with his command and posted a 14.40 ERA in nine spring appearances.

"Ronnie was an important member of this team last year," Cashman said. "We saw the arm strength there this spring, without a doubt. I believe he's still got a lot to give."

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 Originally Posted By: fathersson
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Huh? You're still pissed over a Michael Bay movie?

Besides, you mentioned that you saw BAD BOYS....and I wondered whatever or not you had reviewed it. I believed at the time that you had. Also, you had comments of how you *liked* it.

Anyway, How is this Yankee related anyway? ;\)

I do have a question....do winning the first game of the season really matter as much, or is it just a nice morale boast for fans and the dugout?


Ronnie, now leave Irish alone. After reading that review on ROUNDERS, I have a new respect for this talent as a writer.


Oh yeah, eat your heart out IMDB!

Anyway, Damon will be fine.

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Why not put Damon on the 15-day disabled list retroactive to Monday just as a precaution? Melky would be just fine in center field. That's why we have him. Damon is too valuable to take a chance with trying to "heal while he plays" like we did last year, and unless it is just a little tenderness (try a little tenderness?), then I'd shelve him for the time being. He'd come back just in time for the big push in mid-April against the Indians and Red Sox.



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Breaking News: Damon May Be Out "Long-Term"

Just announced on 1050 ESPN Radio. He won't be in the lineup in the "near future" and it might be a "long term" injury. He said he could barely move his right leg.

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Crap! Makes me glad we kept Melky though instead of trading him away. I guess this means Kevin Thompson will get a call-up. Also, hey...Bernie Williams phone could ring???



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I think Joe would call Bernie in a heartbeat. Cashman, however, won't be as forgiving. They could use him now, I hope Cashman puts his pride aside and makes the call.


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Yeah, but GEORGE will tell Cashman to become a "forgiving" sort of person.

Call BERNIE!

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No Calfing Matter; Bernie Is Not An Option

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DAMON'S LEG STRAIN COULD BE PROBLEM
By MICHAEL MORRISSEY

April 5, 2007 -- The cramps Johnny Damon suffered on Monday have turned into something more serious - something that might require an MRI.

Damon was missing from the lineup with a strained right calf even before yesterday afternoon's game with Tampa Bay was rained out. So with only one game in the books, the Yankees already are battling the injury bug.

Melky Cabrera was slated to start in center and Robinson Cano was listed as the leadoff hitter, so the Yankees wouldn't have suffered too badly in the outfield or lineup. Still, the injury is a concern for someone who never has been on the DL in his career.

"It hurts like hell," Damon said when reporters greeted him.

Although Damon hoped he wouldn't miss more than one game, he couldn't give a timetable. He also speculated an MRI tube could be in his future.

"If it doesn't get better overnight, I'm sure that's a good possibility," he said.

After coming in for treatment Tuesday, Damon met with team physician Stuart Hershon yesterday. Hershon declined to send the outfielder to the hospital and told GM Brian Cashman that no tests are planned, but the doctor wants to see how Damon feels today. The DL isn't a consideration at this point, though.

"I'm not saying it's not possible," Cashman said. "It's not something that's being recommended right now.

"Could it be as early as tomorrow? It could be. It could be something that doesn't get recommended at all. I can't rule any of that stuff out."

Cashman did rule out any move involving Bernie Williams, who hopes to play again and is working out on his own. When asked if it opens the door for Williams, Cashman said, "No." If another outfielder goes down before Damon can return, Miguel Cairo is the next backup outfielder.

Cairo, now in his 12th season, has played only 62 games in the outfield.

"What led into the decision-making process that we made this winter is knowing that Cairo can go into the outfield," Cashman said. "If there's a disabled-list situation, then you go get an outfielder from [the minors]."

On Opening Day, Damon was removed for what he thought were cramps in both legs. He said the legs were fine on Tuesday when he came in for treatment, but Joe Torre said Damon was "pretty sore."

"I came [Tuesday] and might've stretched it a little too much," Damon said.

Damon spoke with reporters twice yesterday, before and after he received the initial treatment. When he returned to his locker in the late morning, his right calf was bandaged tightly.

"I can barely walk, so [I'll] try to get moving . . . somehow," he said. "It felt like cramps the other day, but it's definitely much worse than that."

Damon has played in at least 145 games in the last 11 seasons, so he will try to gut it out when he can. When that is, nobody knows at the moment.

SOGGY-TIX EXCHANGE

The Yankees announced that fans holding paid tickets for yesterday's rainout may use them for the rescheduled game between the Yankees and Devil Rays when the date is announced, or may exchange them for any regular-season game at Yankee Stadium within 12 months (subject to availability).



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Damon MRI Shows Calf Strain; May Go To DL

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(Original publication: April 5, 2007)

NEW YORK - Johnny Damon underwent an MRI today, and the Yankees' center fielder was found to have a mild strain of his right calf.

Manager Joe Torre didn't rule out putting him on the 15-day disabled list, but he said he had to speak with Damon and consult more with general manager Brian Cashman. Damon came out of Monday's season-opening win over Tampa Bay at Yankee Stadium after five innings with what was believed then to be cramps in both calves.

"Here's a guy who's never been on the disabled list in his life," Torre said. "It's not something he would look forward to."

Melky Cabrera has been inserted into the lineup to take Damon's place in center for tonight's game against the Devil Rays, and Robinson Cano has been penciled in as the leadoff batter in Damon's place.

Andy Pettitte will make his first regular-season start for the Yankees since 2003. First pitch is scheduled for 7:08. The game will be telecast on YES and be broadcast on WCBS-880.



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Well, Bernie should have shown up for spring training. I know he felt that he was owed more than what they offered, and I don't disagree, but he should've swallowed his pride and shown up anyway.

I'm very eager to see tonight's game. I missed opening day, as we were in NH touring a college with my daughter. In a way, I'm rather selfishly glad that Pettitte's game was rained out yesterday so that I can watch him tonight.


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Enjoy it guys. I don't think I'll be able to see another Yankee game until Monday night on ESPN (and then after that it won't be for another 2 weeks)

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I agree, Bernie could have definitely helped his cause by showing up to Spring Training, but he really can't play the outfield anymore anyways...he'd basically be limited to the DH role, which is already filled by Giambi.



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He did pretty well last year, filling in when the outfield imploded due to injuries.

I12, the Yankees are winning 4-2 in the top of the 5th, 2 on, one out, Proctor's in already.


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Sorry, spoke WAY too soon. Bottom of the 7th, Yankees LOSING 6-4, 2 on, 2 out. Giambi's up, Matsui's on deck.


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Thanks for the update SB. I saw it while we were in a break during class. I saw the final, 7-6. Vizciano blew it I guess? I haven't seen the highlights or anything, I'm just going off the boxscore.

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This is the coldest Easter week I ever remember, although I do recall an Easter snowstorm in the late 70's. The game shouldn't even count!


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Yeah and everyone is going ga ga for Dice-K today with his debut. He went 7 innings, giving up 6 hits, 1 run, 1 BB, 10 SO with a 1.29 ERA. Not bad but it was against the Royals. Let's see him against a lineup like the Yankees, Angels, White Sox, Tigers, etc.

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The Yankees played like shit, and deserved to lose. I don't care how cold it was - the fucking Florida team seemed to have no problems. The team didn't play defensively sharp...I shudder to think of what will happen when Wang comes back if they haven't improved. On a more general note, Matsui played well as always.

One thing to keep in mind - this game definitely helps my point that the Devil Rays will finally make it out of the basement this season. They have the talent on offense and defense, all they need is a bullpen...then again, it took Seo, (Rudy) Lugo, and Reyes to shut down the Yankee lineup, so maybe they aren't so bad after all...



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 Originally Posted By: Irishman12
Yeah and everyone is going ga ga for Dice-K today with his debut. He went 7 innings, giving up 6 hits, 1 run, 1 BB, 10 SO with a 1.29 ERA. Not bad but it was against the Royals. Let's see him against a lineup like the Yankees, Angels, White Sox, Tigers, etc.


Your "Jerk" is showing again. Give the guy his due. If he was in pinstrips you would be shouting to the stars. No pitcher will be perfect and even the best pitcher may have an off day against any team. If memory serves me. Our Yankees were bombed more then once by the last place teams.


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 Originally Posted By: Double-J
The Yankees played like shit, and deserved to lose. I don't care how cold it was - the fucking Florida team seemed to have no problems. The team didn't play defensively sharp...I shudder to think of what will happen when Wang comes back if they haven't improved. On a more general note, Matsui played well as always.

One thing to keep in mind - this game definitely helps my point that the Devil Rays will finally make it out of the basement this season. They have the talent on offense and defense, all they need is a bullpen...then again, it took Seo, (Rudy) Lugo, and Reyes to shut down the Yankee lineup, so maybe they aren't so bad after all...


Very True D-J.
but to shut down one of the best lineups in baseball.


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My thoughts on Matsuzaka at this point parallel Pavano...I'm not going to give them a salute or nod at this point because a.) they've only had one start and b.) they've both faced mediocre lineups.

Let's wait until these guys have about 10 games under their belt, and then we can go gaa-gaa. \:p



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 Originally Posted By: fathersson
 Originally Posted By: Irishman12
Yeah and everyone is going ga ga for Dice-K today with his debut. He went 7 innings, giving up 6 hits, 1 run, 1 BB, 10 SO with a 1.29 ERA. Not bad but it was against the Royals. Let's see him against a lineup like the Yankees, Angels, White Sox, Tigers, etc.


Your "Jerk" is showing again. Give the guy his due. If he was in pinstrips you would be shouting to the stars. No pitcher will be perfect and even the best pitcher may have an off day against any team. If memory serves me. Our Yankees were bombed more then once by the last place teams.


I said he didn't pitch bad but it was ONLY against the Royals. Let's wait until he faces a real playoff contending team (a la the Yankees, Angels, White Sox, Tigers, etc.)

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 Originally Posted By: Irishman12
 Originally Posted By: fathersson
 Originally Posted By: Irishman12
Yeah and everyone is going ga ga for Dice-K today with his debut. He went 7 innings, giving up 6 hits, 1 run, 1 BB, 10 SO with a 1.29 ERA. Not bad but it was against the Royals. Let's see him against a lineup like the Yankees, Angels, White Sox, Tigers, etc.


Your "Jerk" is showing again. Give the guy his due. If he was in pinstrips you would be shouting to the stars. No pitcher will be perfect and even the best pitcher may have an off day against any team. If memory serves me. Our Yankees were bombed more then once by the last place teams.


I said he didn't pitch bad but it was ONLY against the Royals. Let's wait until he faces a real playoff contending team (a la the Yankees, Angels, White Sox, Tigers, etc.)

He didn't just pitch OK or not that bad, he did great for a major league debut.
Discount his day if you really have to,(yes he was wearing a Boston Redsox uniform) but those who watched the game seem to think that he is the real deal. I know one thing, many people would give a right nut to have all their pitching staff do that well even against an off team as you post.
Sure, he may face harder lineups, but who is to say that he isn't going to get better as he settles in?

He looked like he pitched well, mixed up his pitches, his fast ball looked good and he also had some rather good offspeed stuff as well. He even handle some ground balls hit to him. I would give him a job well done, being his first time with all the attention and pressure everyone put on him.

but the old come back will still be, "Time will tell", but for now you have to give him his due, no doubt about it.

And we know you are praying for him to get rocked so you can
grin from ear to ear and say I told you so. But for now you have to wait. After all we have all be disappointed before on pitchers who were thought were the cats meow when they dressed in pinstripes.


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I've been very impressed with Matsuzaka so far. While I don't think anyone can live up to the hype surrounding him, I think he's displayed a wide arsenal of effective pitches, and I don't think we've seen him at his best yet. How good a pitcher he'll be will be determined later, but I think his talent is uncommon, and his approach and demeanor are sound. I don't think he's going to get sucked in by the hype of the Boston/NY rivalry. I think this kid flies the course of Daedalus.

I actually was kind of expecting a reincarnation of that meatball, Hideki Irabu, but this guy, I think, is far more uniquely talented. I hate to admit it, but he's pretty fun to watch pitching.

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 Originally Posted By: fathersson
but the old come back will still be, "Time will tell", but for now you have to give him his due, no doubt about it.


The problem is though that time, and with time, repeated at-bats, really will tell. Many pitchers, especially when switching leagues, often benefit from the extremely limited exposure to either AL or NL hitters. In Matsuzaka's case, neither the AL nor NL has seen him in action, except in very limited cases at the World Baseball Classic and in Spring Training.

I agree, you have to concede his first outing went about as well as could be expected, no doubt, and I think he probably is a very remarkable pitcher. But like you said, time, and scouting reports, and repeated viewings, particularly in the unfriendly pitching environment of the AL, can change the way a pitcher performs over the course of a season, and ultimately, a career.



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