Its amazing how Rodriguez brags about how fasts he shoots and how economical he is. Which is fine....if he actually pulls a Sam Fuller and make GOOD movies in the process on a healthy above-average rate.

That's why I don't watch the behind-the-scene extras on dvd, or read many interviews with Hollywood folk because it just makes me frustrated when they say and do things that are so out of touch with reality most of the time.

But I have to say that those same out-of-touch people make some pretty good, entertaining movies. I think everyone would agree that Rodriguez would be nothing without Tarantino, but because they have continued to work together, they have produced (in the literal definition, not the Hollywood title) some pretty cool movies. I happen to like the Rodriguez movies I've seen, even if Tarantino is hovering over him while he makes the movies. Tarantino should hover around more movie sets as far as I'm concerned. It would make for better movies.

My point is I guess, is that Planet Terror could have been something else or something better, but what we got instead was still very entertaining. I am looking forward to watching it a second time now that I know what it is, and appreciate it for what it is.

Tarantino still rules though

I agree Blibbleblabble. I have to see this movie in theaters again and even if I'm the only one, it's currently my favorite movie of the year thus far with 300 coming in at #2.

What I don't get about Weinsteins' pushing the idea of re-releasing both movies seperately is.....ok, Tarantino shot extra footage including the amusingly-timed "missing reel" for DEATH PROOF, but what about Rodriguez? Unless I'm mistaken, he didn't for his reel...

Besides, and Blibble you know as well as I do...people might flock to see a Quentin Tarantino movie because the man is a bonafide popular brand-name filmmaker, that few in Hollywood have achieved besides Spielberg of course.

But Rodriguez?

Texas Chainsaw Massacre was an old Grind House movie wasn't it?

It might have been, I don't know, but The Texas Chain Saw Massacre is genuinely a fantastic film; one of the best I've ever seen.

I've got the Sweet Sweetback's Baadasssss Song coming next. Hopefully I'll enjoy it as much as I have the other 2

Agreed, one of the scariest and most disturbing movies I've ever seen. Something about the low quality filming and sound that made me feel uncomfortable while watching it. I need to watch it again actually, it's been quite some time.

I saw it listed as a "Top 10 Grind House Movies to See" in the newspaper which described Grind House films as movies made during the late '60s, '70's and early '80's that major studios wouldn't dare touch because they consisted of topics such as extreme gore and violence, sexual situations, and anything else the general public probably wouldn't want to see. In The Texas Chainsaw Massacre's case, there was a psychotic chainsaw murdering cannibalistic family. No WAY a major studio would touch such a thing back then.

I think that is why these Grind House movies are considered classics now because they approached unapproachable topics during their time.

Anyone ever seen Vanishing Point? Everyone on this board is pretty knowledgeable, but just in case you didn't know, Vanishing Point is the movie Death Proof mentions during the girl discussion about American movie classics which includes a White Dodge Challenger, the car the three girls drive in Tarantino's segment Death Proof.

I have never seen it, and after watching Grindhouse, I am very interested in trying to find it! Has anyone seen it? And what did you think?

Do you remember the rest of the list? Any overlaps? Any new additions besides The Texas Chainsaw Massacre? I've seen the original, the remake and The Beginning and own all 3 on DVD.

I watched about 45 minutes - an hour of Sweet Sweetback's Baadasssss Song and turned it off, I couldn't take it anymore. The movie was all over the place

Well, that's hard to believe, because judging on name alone, it sounds highly promising.

Well the other 2 Grind House films I saw on the list I did enjoy

I wish I kept the list. Off the top of my head, the only one that I can remember that wasn't on your list was Hells Angels on Wheels. It stars Jack Nicholson, a gas station attendant who is finally accepted by the Hells Angels. Sounds like every gas station attendant's dream to me.

I'm not usually one to write movie reviews, but since this whole thread is about bad movies of the 70's, then I thought it wouldn't hurt to write a bad review. Don't worry Irish or RRA, I won't be future competition in the reviews department.

I just finished watching the movie Vanishing Point. After viewing it, I gave it a review of 's (out of )

Is that it? Did I review it good? Oh wait, I think I'm supposed to use some big descriptive words here in a final paragraph:

Overall, it was a strikingly electrifying high-speed potboiler containing the myriads of emblematic adventitious content derivative of the grindhouse genre.

In other words, it was nice. I liked it.

How can adventitious content ever be emblematic?

In the words of my girlfriends eight-year old daughter, "Because."

Glad you enjoyed it Blibbleblabble. I've still yet to see it. Did you get it off line?

I have the Blockbuster online rental thing going, but I returned my online rentals at my local Blockbuster store and checked out Vanishing Point. I really did enjoy it. It's really the first non-horror B-movie "grindhouse" film I've watched, and I could really see Quentin Tarantino's influences in this movie. Not just because he made the movie Death Proof with the infamous 1970 Dodge Challenger, but because of other aspects of the film including random violence as well as really cool music. I think if you're a Tarantino fan and you watch this movie you will notice the similarities between this movie and the movies he has directed.

This may sound cheesy, but this movie is like watching a Quentin Tarantino movie if it were made in the 1970's; very toned down for it's time, but still in the style Tarantino has later made main-stream. If you get a chance to watch it let me know what you think. I dont want to be the only one who has seen this movie around here.

I really hope to watch it but am still waiting for it via Blockbuster Online. Are you saying your actual Blockbuster store carried it? If so, kudos on their selection!

Yeah, they had a couple of copies actually. I was surprised too, they don't usually have anything I'm looking for.

Question about Kurt Russell's Grindhouse cars. Spoilers ahead so don't click it if you haven't seen it

http://www.somethingawful.com/d/photoshop-phriday/grindhouse-movies.php

Classic movies given the "grindhouse" treatment. Funny shit.

Blockbuster Online has sent me Vanishing Point. Looking forward to watching it!

Thought this might interest blibble

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Machete update!

Some time before GRINDHOUSE apparently had the box office drawing power of a steamer left on the theater floor, there were reports that director Robert Rodriguez was planning a straight-to-DVD spinoff featuring MACHETE, one of the faux trailers during the double feature. Is a solo MACHETE still in the cards?

It is if everyone's favorite Hollywood hunk Danny Trejo has anything to say about it! And he does: the regular Rodriguez collaborator says it's "definite", and that it may even happen before SIN CITY 2 (in which Trejo will have an as yet unknown role). Rodriguez has apparently shot as much as one-third of the movie already.

Source: JoBlo

Vanishing Point 1/2
(First Viewing)

Kowalski, the hero of the story, works for a car delivery service. He takes delivery of a 1970 Dodge Challenger to take from Colorado to Frisco, California. Shortly after pickup, he takes a bet to get the car there in less than 15 hours. After a few run-ins with motorcycle cops and highway patrol they start a chase to bring him into custody. Along the way, Kowalski is guided by Supersoul - a blind DJ with a police radio scanner.

These are the best chase and stunt scenes on a highway that I've ever seen! Richard C. Sarafian was, to my surprise, superior to Tarantino in this regard. I loved Death Proof and, in my opinion, easily superior to Planet Terror, however Vanishing Point was probably a little better than Death Proof. Barry Newman pulled off a GREAT job as Kowalski. What impressed me the most with him was his ability to look like a bad a$$ sitting behind the wheel of a car for 90+ minutes. Great action but I was disappointed with the ending.

Awesome! That was the best of the trailers and I would love to see that made into an entire movie!

The ending definitely caught me off guard, but I am having a hard time deciding whether I liked it or didn't like it. I think by the time the movie gets to the end it just seems like there is no way out for him, and with all the flashbacks to the horrible things he has seen and been through I guess he just didn't care if he lived or died. I still really enjoyed Vanishing Point despite the ending.