I wouldn't know about that since I don't frequent there. I'm happy as can be right here, but thanks for thinking of me to expand my "online versatility"

DP, if you didnt care for the remake, you might enjoy the original. One thing the original has over the remake is the Black & White cinematography gives off an atmosphere that color can't do.

You want increased versatility Mick?

Who you think you are, Sojo?

I'll be sure to watch the orginal very soon. I also recently watched se7en which I enjoyed, espically the ending. The whole plot was great aswell. I've been watching alot of Morgan Freemans films recently and I think he's a great actor.

He is a great actor. I'm still surprised he never made a lucrative career as a voice-actor.

SEVEN is a masterpiece DP...and Fincher made another great one in ZODIAC, albeit a different pace of a serial killer film. Too bad it got shot in theatres.

I thought Zodiac would of been a great success in theatres. I'll have to wait for the DVD, as I think its an 18. My favourite David Fincher movie is Fight Club. I've never seen Panic Room but it's on TV soon so I'll watch it then.

My favorites in order are:

1) Fight Club
2) Se7en
3) Zodiac
4) The Game
5) Panic Room

I wouldn't worry about missing too much from Panic Room. I've only seen it once when it was in theaters and have never really had a desire to view it again.

I've only seen two, Se7en and Fight Club. Maybe I'll rent Panic Room later. Is The Game any good?

DP, the problem with PANIC ROOM which Irish surely will agree with me....is that while Fincher as always is great with visuals and editing narrative....

the script SUCKED. I mean, sucked worse than a Bangcock whore.

HEll, watch PANIC ROOM on mute. It would probably seem alot better than it really is.

I'll probably rent Panic Room from Blockbuster or something in a few weeks.

Yeah I enjoyed it. I've only seen it once but compared with my top 3, that's the reason it came in forth (stiff competition)

I suppose it would have to be something great to beat se7en or fight club.

THE GAME is very good...like Brian DePalma's RAISING CAIN, its a thriller that is just Fincher have a good time fucking with the viewer.

You'll like it.

THE GAME (1997) - ***1/2

Yes it would. Zodiac was great but again, personally it wasn't better than Fight Club or Se7en, but it's in good company

I would ask why....but it can't be done. Right?



Filmmaking-wise, SEVEN is the technical-masterpiece for Fincher, while FIGHT CLUB is that cultural impact movie of a decade and generation.

I thought Kevin Spacey was very freaky in Seven. I also thought Ed Norton was brilliant in Fight Club, along with Brad Pitt. I found myself laughing at some of Ed Norton's line in Fight Club.

Try reading the book by Chuck Palahnuik, DP. Its a trip on its own. Though even "Da Chuck Wagon" even admits the movie's ending is better than the book's.

Is the book called Fight Club aswell. I'll look for it on amazon.

Yup.

You know what the funny thing about FIGHT CLUB, a book about guys trying desperately to restore their self-masculinity is?

The author is homosexual. You have no idea how so many people I know refuse to believe that.

But Chuck P. rules as an author. His book SURVIVOR was set as a film before 9/11 derailed it. Spacey/Kidman were on that project. INVISIBLE MONSTERS(my personal favorite Chuck book) is just an insane road trip tale, and CHOKE is a good read in itself(and was a Darren Aronofsky project before, like his Batman and ballet movies, were abandoned.)

But it's a total fucking double standard. You can laugh at a movie in the Drama section, but you can't not-laugh at a movie in the Comedy section.

Deja vu.

Vampyros lesbos **
(First Viewing)

Linda is a young American lawyer, working in a law office in Istanbul. During the night, she has passionate dreams in which a sexy brunette harasses, and makes love to her, from which she's unable to defend herself. A minor case about an inheritance forces her to travel to one of the small islands off the Turkish coast. Then, her nightmares come upon her - in a lively manner.

Another Grind House film that was enjoyable if not laughable as well. Once again Quentin Tarantino inspires me to branch off into other genre's.

Yes because drama's don't (or shouldn't) aim at being funny, comedies should. If a drama is funny then that's just an added bonus. But I'm of the mindset that if a comedy isn't funny, it's not worth a sh*t to me (why else would I be watching it?). It'd be like watching a horror movie like Saw, Scream or a Friday the 13th without anyone dying.

They shouldn't? Drama is probably the most emotionally complex form of cinema. And, unless you're on prozac or happen to be Leonard Cohen, I find humor is the most common of human emotion. I think it's only natural that a film trying to capture the essence of human emotion should also capture the perplexity as well. So, why not throw in humor? Besides, if you think about it, most of the great dramas of our time are absolutely histerical, in retrospect. If I were to list my favorite films right now, at least 85% or more of them are probably categorized as dramatic pieces, most often. But, you know how many of them probably make me laugh? More than half. More than 1/3, perhaps.



Today, I saw Blades of Glory. Probably the funniest movie I've seen in a long time. But did it move me? No. Effect me? Yeah, until I stopped laughing. Did it change me? Nope. It didn't do anything emotionally for me, not on a long term time-scale. Bottom line is, it was a b-grade comedy, like most comedies being released today. What comedic film makers seem to forget it, humor, although a common emotion, is not the only emotion. Yet, they seem to ignore this fact, and want nothing more than you to laugh. Sure you have your exceptions; look no further than Wes Anderson. The ending of The Life Aquatic was as beautiful and moving as the film was absolutely hysterical. There are certain points in the film in which I never thought I'd laughed so hard. But as the film came to a close, and Anderson made brilliant use of Sigur Rós's "Staraflur", I had chills. The bulk of American comedies today set out to make you laugh, and that's fine and dandy, but then what? It's like pornography... As the film goes on, you start feeling better and better, until you reach some sort of peak, and laugh it all out. Then it's all over, and you leave the theater back where you started, and most likely won't remember a thing about the film in a week or two.



Right, because you can't be scared unless someone dies.

The fact that you didn't laugh doesn't mean it's not a comedy. People have different senses of humor. I know people that find Seinfeld, the sitcom and the man's standup, insufferable and absolutely unfunny -- it doesn't mean Seinfeld is not a sitcom or that Seinfeld isn't doing stand-up comedy.

What, no room for argument about "dramedies"?

Irish, genuinely, how would you define the term "elitist" in the context in which you used it?

I think the poor chap thinks anyone that outargues or whips him is elitist.

Which means Capo, you and me are pigs. Where's my troph...

Not to offend anyone, but I find this board a tad more elitist at times than FCM... Just check out any political thread on the BB. Alliances seem to form in every one. And they usually end in the old "Alright, let's see who has the bigger penis."

If I hadn't eaten half of mine that time I was stranded in the Sierra Mountains, I would be winning SO many more arguments around here.

LLC, oh yeah. You get old people that get all emotional and try to claim "America" as their shield for any argument, left and right. It becomes more flag-waving sizing than in dick-sizing.

You bit yours? I thought you told me last week it was a lion that ate it.