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Re: Virginia Tech shooting
[Re: Snake]
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04/18/07 06:37 PM
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This just keeps getting better, Mig...
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Student Arrested Over Va. Tech Remarks
Apr 18 03:22 PM US/Eastern
BOULDER, Colo. (AP) - A University of Colorado student was arrested after making comments that classmates deemed sympathetic toward the gunman blamed for killing 32 students and himself at Virginia Tech, authorities said.
During a class discussion of Monday's massacre at Virginia Tech, the student "made comments about understanding how someone could kill 32 people," university police Cmdr. Brad Wiesley said.
Several witnesses told investigators the student said he was "angry about all kinds of things from the fluorescent light bulbs to the unpainted walls, and it made him angry enough to kill people," according to a police report. Witnesses "said they were afraid of him and afraid to come to class with him," Wiesley said.
The student, identified by police as Max Karson of Denver, was arrested Tuesday on suspicion of interfering with staff, faculty or students of an education institution. He had a court appearance set for Wednesday afternoon.
His father, Michael Karson, told the Camera newspaper that the comments may have been misinterpreted and questioned whether his son's free speech rights had been violated.
"I would have hoped that state officials would know their First Amendment better than they seem to," he said.
University spokesman Bronson Hilliard said privacy laws prevented him from releasing personal information about the student.
At Oregon's Lewis & Clark College, another student was detained by campus police Wednesday shortly before a vigil for the Virginia Tech victims when he was spotted wearing an ammunition belt. Portland police later determined that it was "a fashion accessory" made of spent ammunition, and said the man did not have a weapon. The belt was confiscated.
This is the kind of stupid ass crap that can result from all of this. Think of it: someone arrested for supposedly interfering with a college because of what they say in class. It is a bunch of crap and it's because we have half-educated cops that couldn't do anything else in life except dig ditches. In addition to that we have alot of intolerant wimps who couldn't fight their way out of a paper bag. In my classes, my students express all kinds of opinions and I encourage and protect that.
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Re: Virginia Tech shooting
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04/18/07 06:53 PM
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Holy shit. What a sick bastard, huh? The package was time stamped 9:01 AM Monday and was shipped overnight. But the address was wrong, so they just received it today. They're playing clips of the video he made. But not sure at what date and time he actually made that.
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Re: Virginia Tech shooting
[Re: goombah]
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04/18/07 08:54 PM
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It's amazing and terrifying how this is playing out. I just saw part of the video this guy sent to NBC. Thus far they think he left after the first shooting to mail this to NBC. Btw, I just heard that one of the professors that was murdered there was a Holocaust survivor. Can you imagine surviving that to get gunned down by some lunatic?  TIS
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Re: Virginia Tech shooting
[Re: The Italian Stallionette]
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04/19/07 03:32 AM
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Btw, I just heard that one of the professors that was murdered there was a Holocaust survivor. Can you imagine surviving that to get gunned down by some lunatic?
This guy was a true hero! I figure he was a little bit younger than the kids whom he saved when he experienced the horrors of the Holocaust. I can't even begin to imagine the effect of having survived that had on his outlook towards life, but he went out in a glorious manner (sacrificing his own life so that those placed in his care could live). As I continue to watch the news coverage of this story I'm becoming more and more upset after seeing the "personal" stories of the victims. This whole thing defines tragedy.
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Re: Virginia Tech shooting
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04/19/07 06:44 AM
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Btw, I just heard that one of the professors that was murdered there was a Holocaust survivor. Can you imagine surviving that to get gunned down by some lunatic?
This guy was a true hero! I figure he was a little bit younger than the kids whom he saved when he experienced the horrors of the Holocaust. I can't even begin to imagine the effect of having survived that had on his outlook towards life, but he went out in a glorious manner (sacrificing his own life so that those placed in his care could live). As I continue to watch the news coverage of this story I'm becoming more and more upset after seeing the "personal" stories of the victims. This whole thing defines tragedy. He became a hero at a very early age, and sacrificed his life to die a hero. His actions saved lives.
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Re: Virginia Tech shooting
[Re: SC]
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04/19/07 06:46 AM
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Btw, I just heard that one of the professors that was murdered there was a Holocaust survivor. Can you imagine surviving that to get gunned down by some lunatic?
This guy was a true hero! I figure he was a little bit younger than the kids whom he saved when he experienced the horrors of the Holocaust. I can't even begin to imagine the effect of having survived that had on his outlook towards life, but he went out in a glorious manner (sacrificing his own life so that those placed in his care could live). As I continue to watch the news coverage of this story I'm becoming more and more upset after seeing the "personal" stories of the victims. This whole thing defines tragedy. I feel exactly the same SC. This is just so upsetting to me. The New York Daily News disgusted me this morning. They have this murdering scumbags picture posted all over the front and first 5 pages of the paper. They have given this jerk EXACTLY what he was looking for in brandishing his pictures all over the first six pages. Then finally, all the way on page 7, you find the story about one of the true heroes of this tragedy, Prof. Librescu. He is the one who should be making front page news instead of page 7 and not the little pr**k who did this to get himself the attention that he wanted.
Don Cardi  Five - ten years from now, they're gonna wish there was American Cosa Nostra. Five - ten years from now, they're gonna miss John Gotti.
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Re: Virginia Tech shooting
[Re: SC]
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04/19/07 08:35 AM
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Btw, I just heard that one of the professors that was murdered there was a Holocaust survivor. Can you imagine surviving that to get gunned down by some lunatic?
This guy was a true hero! I figure he was a little bit younger than the kids whom he saved when he experienced the horrors of the Holocaust. I can't even begin to imagine the effect of having survived that had on his outlook towards life, but he went out in a glorious manner (sacrificing his own life so that those placed in his care could live). As I continue to watch the news coverage of this story I'm becoming more and more upset after seeing the "personal" stories of the victims. This whole thing defines tragedy. They interviewed some students yesterday, and one student (don't know if he was in the room with this Professor or not)said that the teacher was holding the door shut to keep the shooter out,, and let the kids escape through the window, and as a result got shot. Man, I'd like to think I'd be so heroic. The student said this guy truly cared about his students. Boy, the ultimate sacrifice hu? Mig, as far as the news coverage, yea this guy is getting what he wanted, but I can understad to a degree "our" need to know. I too, am beginning to think that these people, whether or not they get their ideas from news, music, movies or whatever, that if they are "sick" enough they will find a way. TIS
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"War is over, if you want it" - John Lennon
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Re: Virginia Tech shooting
[Re: Don Cardi]
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04/19/07 10:00 AM
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I saw a forensic psychiatrist on TV today that pleaded with the media to stop showing the videos and photos. By showing his picture, the media is giving him EXACTLY what he wanted.
They have given this jerk EXACTLY what he was looking for in brandishing his pictures all over the first six pages.
He's right! This was my initial feeling when I picked up the New York Daily News this mroning and saw this fuck's face all over the first six pages. The damn media should instead be showing us people like the Prof. who gave his life so that those students could escape with theirs.
Don Cardi Five - ten years from now, they're gonna wish there was American Cosa Nostra. Five - ten years from now, they're gonna miss John Gotti.
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Re: Virginia Tech shooting
[Re: goombah]
#386691
04/19/07 10:13 AM
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I agree wholeheartedly, just like the Jesse James headstone to which I alluded yesterday before all this new crap came out. They don't need to immortalize this subhuman and give some other moron somewhere ideas.
Yeah, he was a "sick" bastard who was "mental," etc., etc., ad nauseum. But nobody can predict this stuff, even the best shrinks in the world. There are folks who are schizoid and manifested demeanor just like him who do nothing more than push shopping carts down alleys and collect bags and cans, about as harmful as butterflies. I DO think there should've been a link somehow between the judge's decision on the turd's mental state and his background check in purchasing a weapon. As Dennis Miller noted last night on O'Reilly, he should NOT have been able to walk out with a pistol in 10 minutes time. Yeah, I'm for the Second Amendment, but this was entirely too convenient. Something really needs to be done, and both sides of the gun issue need to reach some middle ground. It won't stop some nut that's truly determined to harm others, but it might snag a few in the dragnet.
I'm by no means a big O'Reilly fan, but he raised a good point on the world's perspective of us. A lot of folks are lambasting the US because of the shooting, saying we're a "gun-crazed" society, yada-yada-yada. BUT, in Iraq and other such places where innocents are slaughtered wholesale on a daily basis, hardly a word of condemnation. Anyway...
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Re: Virginia Tech shooting
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04/19/07 10:55 AM
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I'm sure that their first home football game will be a very solemn affair this year, also. Don't forget, that's a pretty big football school.
According to the Associated Press : BLACKSBURG, Va. (AP) — "Virginia Tech on Tuesday canceled spring football practice and the team's annual spring game in the wake of Monday's campus massacre. The intrasquad game, which typically draws tens of thousands of fans, was scheduled for Saturday. The school also postponed a baseball game against William & Mary that had been scheduled for Wednesday. Five spring sports teams will participate in ACC championships as scheduled, the school said."
Don Cardi Five - ten years from now, they're gonna wish there was American Cosa Nostra. Five - ten years from now, they're gonna miss John Gotti.
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Re: Virginia Tech shooting
[Re: Snake]
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04/19/07 11:06 AM
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BUT, in Iraq and other such places where innocents are slaughtered wholesale on a daily basis, hardly a word of condemnation. Anyway... No, thats inaccurate. Many of us have been protesting the criminal actions of the U.S. Government's illegal invasion and occupation of that country which has resulted inthe deaths and disfigurement of more than 100,000 innocent Iraqis, more than 20,000 American troops who were sent there to fight for nothing, not to mention the trauma it has caused the children of Iraq. That said, lets keep this thread focused on the tragedy at Virginia Tech.
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Re: Virginia Tech shooting
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04/19/07 12:24 PM
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No, thats inaccurate. Many of us have been protesting the criminal actions of the U.S. Government's illegal invasion and occupation of that country which has resulted inthe deaths and disfigurement of more than 100,000 innocent Iraqis, more than 20,000 American troops who were sent there to fight for nothing, not to mention the trauma it has caused the children of Iraq.
That said, lets keep this thread focused on the tragedy at Virginia Tech. Focused? You raised a counterpoint, not me. Oh, was that OUR government's gassing of the Iraqis during Sadaam's reign? How about all the videotaped killings and beheadings? What about the wholesale killings in Sudan? Israel? Lebanon? Syria? Yeah, the other governments don't sanction such killings (just as we didn't sanction the lunatic at VT), but they do give it a wink when they "come out against" these atrocities in a lot of empty talk. (Well, actually, I suppose some of these governments DO sanction such massacres.)In the meantime, the slaughters go on. My point is that we don't have such depravity going on in this country, yet, to hear our "friends" elaborate, we're the Satan of the world. You don't want to change the topic, then don't. I was simply conveying an observation that originally was pertinent to this, at least in the context of what other countries are saying about America and the VT massacre.
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Re: Virginia Tech shooting
[Re: Don Cardi]
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04/19/07 01:39 PM
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I saw a forensic psychiatrist on TV today that pleaded with the media to stop showing the videos and photos. By showing his picture, the media is giving him EXACTLY what he wanted.
Cho received his post-mortem glory, which possibly could encourage others to do the same thing. Most psychos live a relatively pathetic lives and then die. However if they know they can become larger then life in the media by killing as many people as possible before cashing out then we'll end up seeing more and more of them taking that option in the future. Information and videos of him like this COULD MAYBE MIGHT give us more insight into someone who would do something like this. Maybe someone out there can recognize this behavior in someone else and get that person help before it is too late. (Though all I saw was a weak man with severe psychosis, and his idiot ramblings seem evidence of a gross detachment from reality ... not the "hero victim" he may have wanted). But it does seem excessively pointed just to him... AND YES. I want more about the Professor, heroes, the guy that saved himself tourniquet!! I'll shut up, I am noticing my own rambling as I try to come to a decision about this...
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