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Re: How bout them Yankees!?
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Is Joe Girardi the answer? I'd say yes. What our team is lacking is fire, is will (and of course, healthy starting pitching). Girardi brings the Torre patience and class but he also brings a bit of a temper too, which is exactly what we need. I don't know if Mattingly can do that, at this point.
As the days go by, and if the Yankees don't get out of last place by mid May, I would seriously expect heads to roll. Cashman saved Torre's job last year after the Detroit debacle. I don't think George is going to be patient again. I haven't been impressed at all with what I've seen with Mattingly as a coach. Now Giradi, he seems perfect as Torre's heir apparent (Plus, NL Manager of the Year trophy in his first year out *is* his resume) but can Papa George maturely deal with someone that unlike the internalizing Torre, is up for temper fights with management?(Then again, penny-pinching Marlins management would make anyone go fist flying) You do forget that besides Cashman, Jeter went up to the plate for Torre. If what I remember is correct, Jeter pulled his "City's Sports Hero/Yankee Heroic Leader" trump card that Papa George helped groomed against him...and for a good cause. I just don't know whats with Torre. Is it that the bullshit with George for the last 7 years(or 13 including the fruitful years) has burned the man out?
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I, for one, think that they are going to give Torre a shot once all the starters are *hopefully* back. If he gets Wang, Moose, Pettitte, Igawa, and Karstens/Pavano/Hughes/Wright/etc. going on a full 5-day rotation, and the offense and pitching still is losing games, then I think we may see a coaching change by the end of May...and a fairly drastic trade or two as well.
Just a guess.
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Re: How bout them Yankees!?
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Can you say, duh? George fucked up with this brilliant decision: Yankee Train Wreck: New Hires Under FireSource: NY Daily News
BY MARK FEINSAND DAILY NEWS SPORTS WRITER
Friday, April 13th 2007, 4:00 AM
OAKLAND - The Yankees instituted a new fitness program for their players this year, looking to enhance their performance on the field.
Instead, some wonder whether it has contributed to keeping several of the Bombers' biggest stars off the field, as a rash of injuries has hit the Yankees during the early weeks of the season.
Mike Mussina was the latest casualty, leaving Wednesday's game in Minneapolis with a strained left hamstring. He joined Bobby Abreu, Andy Pettitte, Chien-Ming Wang, Johnny Damon and Hideki Matsui on the list of players who have suffered strains or pulls since spring training. That's 60% of the starting rotation plus the entire starting outfield.
"We have to deal with (the injuries), but I don't attribute it to our performance management team," GM Brian Cashman said. "Everything we've put in place has been to the benefit to our players."
Over the winter, Cashman got rid of Jeff Mangold, the Yanks' strength and conditioning coach for the previous nine seasons, and hired Marty Miller, who served as a minor league trainer for the Expos from 1995-97, to serve in the newly created position of director of performance enhancement.
Miller had not worked in baseball since leaving the Expos, spending the past nine years as the director of fitness at the Ballen Isles Country Club in Palm Beach Gardens, Fla. He has a master's degree from California University of Pennsylvania in performance enhancement and injury prevention.
"Marty isn't a baseball guy like Mangold was," said one player, speaking on the condition of anonymity. "Marty has been given a lot of pull, and I think he's a little too gung-ho right now."
Cashman also hired Dana Cavalea, 24, to be the new assistant director of performance enhancement. Cavalea had served as a strength and conditioning coach under Mangold during spring training since 2003, but is now a member of the full-time staff.
During the first day of workouts with pitchers and catchers, the pair's pre-workout stretching program did not include any stretching exercises for the players' arms.
"Right off the bat, (Miller has) got a bad rap," said the player, who also called the team's current pregame stretch routine inadequate. "Pitchers and catchers out there not stretching their arms? Their thing is that the active stretch gets everything stretched out, but that's garbage."
Neither Miller nor Cavalea is permitted to speak with reporters, though Miller did an interview last week with the Palm Beach Post, his hometown paper.
"I've been able to come in here and really kind of change this whole department around," Miller told the paper.
According to the player, Miller and Cavalea have tried to force some of their program on players, many of whom have had successful careers for more than a decade. The response has been a combination of resistance and indifference.
"I think as Marty and Dana get more knowledge of the game, it will get better," the player said. "It's like a rookie pitcher coming to the majors: You might know a lot about pitching, but you don't know what you have to do to be successful at that level.
"They know a ton about conditioning, but they have to figure out how their strengths work into this situation," the player continued. "Mangold didn't have the knowledge that these guys have, but he took the workout that players wanted to do and he'd add things and tweak it."
In addition to the hiring of Miller and Cavalea, the Yankees entered into a 10-year strategic partnership with 24 Hour Fitness, a California-based fitness center company. According to the press release, one of 24 Hour Fitness' duties was the installation of a "state of the art fitness facility" at Yankee Stadium, but players have been less than impressed with the initial results.
"They've done a phenomenal job making the weight room nice," the player said. "Aesthetically it looks great, but functionally, there's nothing in there. You walk in there and there's four of the same machine and a bunch of empty space. What do you expect us to do in there?"
According to a team source, Pettitte was encouraged by either Miller or Cavalea to ditch the weight belt he usually wears while doing his routine squats, saying it would help him strengthen his stomach during the exercises. Pettitte injured his back while doing the squats, costing him 10days in spring training.
"None of these injuries have anything to do with this new program," Cashman said. "It's not anything that's putting anybody in jeopardy."
Cashman also noted that both Matsui and Damon suffered their strains during games played in temperatures in the 30s. Damon, whose calf strain caused him to leave the Yanks' season opener early and then miss the next two games, said Miller and Cavalea have been working hard to keep the players in shape, though he admitted that the unusual number of injuries "raises some eyebrows" in regard to the new fitness program.
A source said that George Steinbrenner was very upset about the multitude of injuries that have hit the team, but his spokesman, Howard Rubenstein, said the owner had no critical comments to make about the new fitness program. "He's not upset about it," Rubenstein said. "He said, 'Injuries happen.'"
Cashman has received positive feedback from some players, including Scott Proctor, Mariano Rivera and Carl Pavano, but he knows it might take some time for other players to come around.
"Cash is always trying to better the team any way he can," Proctor said. "This is a good investment; it just needs some time to take. Guys need to learn to trust it, and then it will be good for us."
"You can't change Rome in a day," Cashman said. "Does that mean all the guys are going to gravitate to them? No. We're not going to force them to switch their stuff ... if it's worked for them over the years." Bring in a non-baseball guy who works with geriatrics to run the strength and conditioning...err..."performance enhancement" (what the fuck, good terms to use in the steroid era, boys  ) team. Ugh. Did anyone else find a reason why Mangold should have been fired last year? The injuries to Matsui and Sheffield were outside of his control... 
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Re: How bout them Yankees!?
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Nothing good comes from this loss, other than once again, we've confirmed that if we actually had decent pitching, the Yankees could win over Dice-K.
These are the steps I think need to be taken to remedy this slide:
1.) Papa George comes down off the hill: It's like getting a bloody edict from the Pope nowadays, but George needs to light a fire under this team. I realize this isn't going to *fix* the actual fundamental issues with the Yankees, but they need to keep their emotions high and get a fire lit under this team. We're the New York Yankees, not the Kansas City Royals (umm...we may actually envy the Royal's record pretty soon...).
2.) Joe Torre needs to mix it up: Take whatever George does in step 1, and then bottle it, and have Torre drink it. This is the most quiescent team I've seen in my life; they accept defeat like its nothing. Well, I realize the old adage, "there is still plenty of time left," but the fact is that a loss in April still equals a loss in August in the win column. Change the batting order - and no, that doesn't mean batting the worst two hitters on the team, Melky and Eye-Chart, #1 and #2...what the fuck is that? - slide Abreu down until he learns how to walk, move A-Rod to #3, give Matsui or Posada the #4 slot, move Giambi down to #7, move Cano up to #5. I realize this is going to shatter some fragile ego's (it may result in Abreu playing in the #8 spot), but let's hope they can take it better than Sheffield. The pitching injuries can't be avoided right now (well, just fire that shithead Miller who doesn't even stretch his players, and bring back Jeff Mangold), but at least make sure the offense is giving its best night in and night out.
3.) Roger Clemens: Let's hope we sign the Rocket and get another good year out of him.
4.) Keep Hughes up: I know, this is dangerous, and I don't *like* it, but to be honest, he looked like one of the sharper pitchers we have had in the rotation. Mussina comes back next week Thursday, and they should give Hughes another shot. Maybe with Wang, Pettitte, Hughes, Mussina, and X (Karstens/Igawa), there could be some pseudo-stability in this rotation.
But Cashman definitely took a huge roll of the dice coming into the season with our rotation, and he lost, big time.
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Re: How bout them Yankees!?
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Nothing good comes from this loss, other than once again, we've confirmed that if we actually had decent pitching, the Yankees could win over Dice-K.
These are the steps I think need to be taken to remedy this slide:
1.) Papa George comes down off the hill: It's like getting a bloody edict from the Pope nowadays, but George needs to light a fire under this team. I realize this isn't going to *fix* the actual fundamental issues with the Yankees, but they need to keep their emotions high and get a fire lit under this team. We're the New York Yankees, not the Kansas City Royals (umm...we may actually envy the Royal's record pretty soon...).
If the largest payroll in the history of sports can't motivate them, I don't think a Steinbrenner fire will do it. It's just a matter of time before they get back on course. By the way, I think we're beginning to see why the Phillies unloaded the Abreu contract. He's a guy with talent- even on pace to put up Hall of Fame numbers. But he always seemed content with finishing second or third. I never got the feeling that winning was a priority for him. If the Yankees are interested in replacing him, the Phillies will be happy again to help out by unloading, er, I mean, trading Pat Burrell, Abreu's mental twin. By the way, this is yet another loss when they surrendered 6+ runs and lost a lead. While I'm not a Yankee fan, this period of losing will be short-lived. We're not even in May yet. They'll win. By the way, I thought Matsuzaka pitched well, except for the walks in the one inning. Like many other pitchers, I suspect that he'll get better. JJ, just watch the Sabres for a couple of weeks and when you return to baseball after the Stanley Cup, the Yankees will be tied for first. 
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Re: How bout them Yankees!?
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People worry about Dice-K and how he is not that great, but we still lost so he is getting the job done even if it isn't so pretty. Mo gave up four runs and HIS ERA Is 12.15 so I would be more worried about Mo then kicking dirt over Boston, who has beaten the crap out of us four straight. They are now 61/2 games over us and while they sit atop the league, we are a 195 million dollar last place team.
Panic, maybe not because that is the word of the land, don't panic, BUT you would have to be a putz not be getting a bit worried after watching this crap being played out.
I'm starting to see less and less to cheer about. With two more with Boston , the only bright spot seems to be Texas coming our way. If they don't rebound there, then you may have to put a fork in us because we will be done.
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Re: How bout them Yankees!?
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04/28/07 11:46 AM
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Dice-K was shaky again: 6 innings, 5 hits, 4 runs, 4 BB, 7 SO 3-2 with a 4.36 ERA You forgot one "stat" (again)... the "W".
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Re: How bout them Yankees!?
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Dice-K was shaky again: 6 innings, 5 hits, 4 runs, 4 BB, 7 SO 3-2 with a 4.36 ERA You forgot one "stat" (again)... the "W". True but it was because of boston's offense, not the "invincible" Dice-K. If the Yankees rotation ever gets in order this year, we'll kill Dice-K. Also, did I not tell everyone Beckett would bounce back this year? I knew he was too good of a pitcher to be the Randy Johnson of the boston red sox
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Re: How bout them Yankees!?
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Another one bits the dust  ---------------------------------------------------------------- Karstens fractures right fibulaNEW YORK -- Yankees right-hander Jeff Karstens suffered a fractured right fibula on his first pitch Saturday, as he was struck by a line drive that forced him to exit the game. Karstens, a 24-year-old rookie, was making his second start of the season for New York after missing the Opening Day roster due to right elbow tendinitis. His first pitch was a fastball to Red Sox leadoff hitter Julio Lugo, who ripped a line drive off the hurler's right leg, sending Karstens into a pained crumple on the mound. "You start the season on the DL, and come back, they give you another shot to pitch, and the first pitch of the game the guy hits a line drive off my leg," Karstens said. "It's a long season though, so I've got to come back and come back strong." New York's medical staff immediately attended to Karstens, who said that the injury hurt but insisted that he could remain in the game. Karstens threw several warmup pitches and faced one more batter, Kevin Youkilis, throwing five pitches before the Boston first baseman reached Karstens for a single to left field. Citing concerns that Karstens would favor his right leg and alter his pitching motion, the Yankees removed him from the game in favor of left-hander Kei Igawa, who was made available for long relief efforts in this series after a poor outing on Monday against the Rays. Karstens underwent X-rays at Yankee Stadium, which revealed the fracture, and was later taken for additional X-rays and a CT scan at Columbia Presbyterian Hospital in New York before returning to Yankee stadium sporting a soft foam cast. Team physician Dr. Stuart Hershon said that Karstens should expect to be capable of pitching again this season, though both Hershon and general manager Brian Cashman declined to give a timeframe. The Yankees will place Karstens on the 15-day disabled list, but as of Saturday evening, Cashman said the organization was still discussing which Minor League pitcher would be promoted to New York. Source: Yankees
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I was so glad I tuned in yesterday...I had a feeling Kei was going to be needed. I don't understand why they are passing him over while their whole reason for using Pavano is because of his contract, yet Igawa is relegated to the minors (nearly) after two decent and two questionable starts. He clearly had the best day of any Yankee pitcher yesterday, and hopefully this begins the turnaround. This is the pitcher we signed from the Japanese league...Kei is here to stay...remember, his statline from yesterday: K-K-K-K-K-K-Kei!!! 
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Pavano throws bullpen session, says arm is betterNEW YORK -- Carl Pavano got back on a mound Sunday for the first time since April 9, throwing a bullpen session as New York Yankees manager Joe Torre looked on. Pavano has been sidelined by forearm stiffness, and the Yankees have not set a timetable for his return. Torre said Pavano threw about 45 pitches, 20 from the top of a mound. "Everything was positive," Torre said. "He was free and easy. He popped some balls, felt pretty good freedom and he said it's feeling better. For the first time being on the mound, I thought it was a good outing for him." Pavano is 1-0 with a 4.76 ERA in two starts, his first appearances for the Yankees following 1 1/2 years of shoulder, back, buttocks, elbow and rib injuries that caused many to question his desire to pitch and some to ridicule him. He probably will have another bullpen session Tuesday or Wednesday. Jeff Karstens was limping around the clubhouse, a day after his right leg was broken when Julio Lugo lined the first pitch of the game off the side of his knee. While he wasn't in a cast, the area below the knee was blue. "It's just a little sore, not really pain," Karstens said. New York estimated he will be sidelined for six to eight weeks. He watched a replay on Saturday night, and he said his first reaction was: "Ouch!" "I was actually more thinking about all night how come I didn't try and go after the ball?" he said. Karstens was placed on the 15-day disabled list, and right-hander Colter Bean was recalled from Triple-A Scranton. Bean was in Columbus, Ohio, half-asleep, when he received a call at 1 a.m. Sunday telling him to get to New York in time for Sunday's game against Boston. Source: ESPN
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Bobby Abreu cannot bat third, make 15 million a year and bunt. Not saturday, not yesterday, not ever. He looks scared. This is New York Bobby, get over it or get out of here.
What Bobby's doing this season is no different than what he had been doing in Philadelphia the last year and a half before they unloaded him. His Topps baseball card may say he's 33, but the rumor from Venezuela is that he's really 36-37.  He'll finish the year around .285 with close to 20 homers (with few of the homers in key spots).
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Hughes: 'I need to prove myself'NEW YORK -- He walks around the clubhouse in a quiet, if not serious manner. His presence permeates throughout the white-walled lockers. He answers questions with ease and little emotion. Meekness seems sunken into every bit of his demeanor. Just look at his eyes. It lives in Phil Hughes. "Humility, that low, sweet root," penned Irish poet Thomas Moore, "from which all heavenly virtues shoot." Hughes, of course, is no transient miracle hiding in a 6-foot-5 frame. No, he's just a pitcher. A darned good one, too, judging from the Minor League numbers he coaxed last year with that mid-90s fastball and sharp-breaking curve. But beneath the top draft pick label, beneath the electric pitches, and beneath that pinstriped uniform is a humble 20-year-old kid. Mark Newman, the Yankees' senior vice president of baseball operations, has said Hughes is probably the best young pitcher the team has had since 1989, Newman's first year with the club. Hughes' accolades would unfurl like a scroll, but two of his statistics stand out like red ink among black ink: He never faced a batter with the bases loaded in 2006, and his Minor League numbers coming into this season -- 21-7 with a 2.12 ERA -- are comparable to last year's American League Cy Young Award winner Johan Santana (19-6 with a 2.77 ERA). Jason Giambi gave Hughes another eye-widening honor this spring, dubbing him a young "Rocket" in reference to future Hall of Fame pitcher Roger Clemens. But instead of pumping up his chest and throwing around all 220 pounds of him like he's Terrell Owens with a nasty fastball, Hughes looks toward the ground after comments like these -- perhaps with a slight chuckle -- and prefers to examine himself. "You kind of just have to take a step back and look yourself in the mirror and say, 'You know, I haven't done anything to deserve all this praise yet,'" Hughes said. "I'm at a point now where I need to prove myself." All of this garnered him masses of attention. Sean Henn, whose locker sits next to Hughes', explained the one downer to having Baseball America's top Yankees prospect as his clubhouse neighbor: the media crowds his space. Yes, Hughes' gaudy statistics are a marvel, but no one -- not even scouts whose job descriptions are to first note a player's physical ability -- could help but notice something more about him. It's the way he speaks in calm, few words. It's the way his face looks even after he gives up a homer. And to those who see it, including his teammates, manager and parents, it's a glimpse that sees the soul. Maybe that's what Jorge Posada saw when he caught Hughes in Spring Training. "The attitude, you see it," Posada said. "It's not about being cocky. It's just the way he walks around; he belongs." What ever happened to the spiked hairdos and mohawks, the know-it-alls and balkers, the boasters and back-talkers? They're definitely not extinct in the Major Leagues. It's just that Hughes is a fading breed. Humility seems to be engraved on his heart. It flows through everything he does and every word he speaks -- pretty impressive considering he can't legally drink until late June. Hughes comes across with the wisdom of a man approaching his golden years in life. "He seems to be a little more mature for someone his age," Joe Torre said. "He's sure more mature than I was at his age, just [from] the way he carries himself." Hughes' father, Philip, used to be in the Navy. The straight-shooting advice Hughes' dad gave him, though not what he would consider "strict," helped shape Hughes as a person and his mindset on the mound. His dad taught him to get things done in a humble way, or, as a Nike commercial might reiterate -- "Just do it." Block out distractions. Get focused. Work hard. Get it done. That's what Hughes did in his first start in the Major Leagues against the Blue Jays last Thursday, even though he didn't succeed as he hoped. When he gave up a run-scoring hit to Vernon Wells in the first inning of a 6-0 loss, he kept his head straight. When he struck out two batters to start the second inning, his face looked identical. Sure, some parts of that game worked out better than others for him, but what exactly did Hughes' father teach him to get him through it? "'Don't get too high, [or] too low.' -- that kind of thing," Hughes said. "That's probably where I got most of my personality." Source: Yankees
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Steinbrenner: Results 'not acceptable'NEW YORK -- Yankees principal owner George Steinbrenner has not been pleased with the team's early start, but he does not appear inclined to order major personnel changes -- for now. New York lost two of three games over the weekend to the Red Sox and completed April with a 9-14 record, suffering a 7-4 defeat on Sunday to place them 6 1/2 games behind first-place Boston. Steinbrenner issued a statement through his spokesperson reacting to the Yankees' recent struggles on Monday. "The season is still very young, but up to now the results are clearly not acceptable to me or to Yankee fans," Steinbrenner said. "However, Brian Cashman, our general manager, Joe Torre, our manager, and our players all believe that they will turn this around quickly. I believe in them." The Yankees have lost eight of nine games dating back to their weekend series against the Red Sox, fueling speculation that Steinbrenner might consider replacing Torre from the managerial post he has held since 1996. It is not the first time Torre's position has been challenged in media reports. The 66-year-old Torre spent a good portion of his postgame press conference on Sunday insisting that his only focus is on returning the Yankees to their winning ways. "We're going to have to come out of it," Torre said. We're a much better club than our record indicates. You play this thing over 162 games." The first month of the season was not kind to the Yankees, particularly in a medical sense. Hideki Matsui, Mike Mussina, Carl Pavano and Chien-Ming Wang -- all envisioned to be contributors to the club's success -- were among a cast of players who spent time on the 15-day disabled list with an assortment of injuries. Matsui and Wang eventually returned, as did injured pitcher Jeff Karstens, but Karstens was struck with a line drive on Saturday and suffered a broken right fibula, sending him back to the disabled list. Pavano and Mussina have yet to return, but Mussina is considered a possibility to pitch this week. The collective voids left the Yankees' weaknesses exposed, and Torre has admitted he had to lean far harder on his bullpen -- which leads the Major Leagues with a combined 95 appearances -- than expected. The Yankees used five relievers on Sunday, the 10th consecutive game that five or more hurlers were summoned in relief -- the first time in the last 50 years that has been done, according to research performed by the Elias Sports Bureau. Several Yankees players jumped to Torre's defense on Sunday, with Derek Jeter saying that speculation is "unfair, and it should stop." Cashman also noted that he takes full responsibility for the Yankees' sluggish start, saying that "this is the team I put together." Steinbrenner offered his hopes that the Yankees -- who open a three-game road series with the Rangers on Tuesday -- will be able to regain their footing in the American League East. "I am here to support them in any way to help them accomplish this turnaround," Steinbrenner said. "It is time to put excuses and talk away. It is time to see if people are ready to step up and accept their responsibilities. It is time for all of them to show me and the fans what they are made of." As always, he also left no question what the team's main objective is. "Let's get going," Steinbrenner concluded. "Let's go out and win and bring a world championship back to New York. That's what I want." Source: Yankees
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First off, Klydon, our resident Phillies fan, is completely right about Abreu. Be glad that he is gone after this year.
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George's statement today probably doesn't mean much. You can't blame Torre for the injuries (fire the fucking "performance enhancement director"), but I am tired of seeing Scott Proctor, who has a horrible record against Boston, pushed in again. Ugh.
Torre does not know how to manage a bullpen, and it is a bit telling when Buddy Groom said so after departing a couple of years ago. Torre rode Quantrill, Villone, and now Proctor, and may end his career too. Grr.
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I don't want Don Mattingly as the coach.
Why?
Because he's from the Joe Torre school. We need a manager with fire, at least for the forseable future. One thing this team has lacked is passion over the past few years, and I think Girardi could light a fire under his guys better than Torre.
That's probably because he comes from the Don Zimmer school of thought, which may hurt his chances of becoming manager - Steinbrenner dislikes Zim, and by proxy, probably would favor Mattingly over Girardi for the nod.
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Johnny Damon is seeing a chiropractor. Okay. Now, he has to fly down to Florida to see this guy. Now, to paraphrase Mike Francesca (profanity is mine)...This chiropractor isn't fucking Jonas Salk...bring this fucking asshole to the Four Seasons before the Red Sox series, have him fix Damon up, and give me a fucking break.
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Re: How bout them Yankees!?
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Yahoo: Matsuzaka Helps Igawa Source: Yahoo (Japan)
先発が負傷、井川緊急登板でNY救った
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先発が負傷、井川緊急登板でNY救った
ヤンキース対レッドソックス 7回表レッドソックス無死一、二塁、無失点のまま降板した井川にスタンドのファンはスタンディングオベーション(撮影・加藤仁) <ヤンキース3-1レッドソックス>◇28日(日本時間29日)◇ヤンキースタジアム 【ニューヨーク(米ニューヨーク州)28日(日本時間29日)】ヤンキース井川慶投手(27)がレッドソックス戦にスクランブル登板し、7連敗していたチームを救った。先発ジェフ・カーステンズ(24)の負傷で初回無死一、二塁から急きょマウンドに上がり、6回0/3を被安打2無失点の好投で、2勝目を挙げた。先発危機の立場から一気に救世主となり、次は5月4日からのマリナーズ戦(ニューヨーク)に先発する。 ベンチに戻る井川をヤンキースタジアムの観客が総立ちで迎えた。「6回0/3で拍手をもらえたのは初めてです」と精いっぱいのジョークで、うれしさを表現した。 中継ぎ陣が連投続き。試合前、「今日はブルペンを手伝ってくれ」と伝えられた。「つめでも研ごうかな」とのんびり構えていた試合開始直後、いきなり出番が来た。 先発カーステンズが先頭打者ルーゴに初球を打たれ、打球を右ひざに受けた。何とか次のユーキリスに投げたものの、左前打されて降板した。「真っ先に井川の名前が頭に浮かんだ」とトーリ監督は言った。 ブルペンではなくマウンドへ向かった井川は、背番号と同じ29球を投げて何とか肩をつくった。「たぶん長くは投げない。どんどん力強い球を投げて何とかしようと思っていた」。無死一、二塁の大ピンチにも、無心で3番オルティスに挑んだ。低めの変化球で二ゴロ併殺に打ち取り、四球の後、ドルーを空振りの三振に仕留めた。 走者がいなくてもセットポジションで投げた。「打者のタイミングを外しづらいんですが、コントロールはあるんで」。捕手のポサダは「すべての球種でストライクを取れた」と目を丸くした。 さらに、レ軍松坂との意見交換も好投を支えた。これまでは、右足を踏み出した後も打者側に滑らせて下半身の粘りをつくっていた。日本の軟らかいマウンドならではの投球術だった。だがメジャーの硬いマウンドでは滑らせることができない。対処法を聞くため、20日の遠征先のボストンで松坂をつかまえた。メジャーに対応するために2年前、踏み出した足を滑らせないフォームに修正したことを聞いた。頑張っているのは松坂も同じと知り、意識して練習していた。 2番手以降で投げたのは、02年10月12日広島戦(広島)以来。試合前は「足を引っ張らなければいいんですけど」と漏らしていたが、堂々の2勝目を挙げ、チームの連敗も7で止めた。前回23日デビルレイズ戦(タンパ)では制球に苦しみ、5回途中7失点KO。この日の先発を飛ばされたが「この1勝は大きい。(井川を)ローテーションに戻す」とトーリ監督の信頼も取り戻した。マリナーズ4連戦で先発に復帰する。【堀まどか】 Not a joke. Roughly translated: Why pitch from the stretch the entire game?"Pitching from the stretch usually makes it tougher for me to offset batter's timing (with different pitches), but I had good control today, so...Up until now, Igawa would typically step forward with his right foot, and then slide it towards batter to get a firm hold on the ground. But this was a method suited only for the softer mound of Japan. He couldn't do that with harder mound of Major League. Still without a solution, Igawa went on the road for the first series in Boston. There he met up with his fellow countrymen Matsuzaka and learned that Dice-K had anticipated this and already changed his pitching form 2 years ago to adapt to the hard mound. When Igawa knew that Matsuzaka had worked hard overcoming the same problem, he began to practice on his own as well. However, when he came out to relieve Karstens, Igawa still wasn't sure if his new form would work -- as what went through his mind at the moment was, "I just hope I don't make it worse for the team."
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Re: How bout them Yankees!?
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I don't want Don Mattingly as the coach.
Why?
Because he's from the Joe Torre school. We need a manager with fire, at least for the forseable future. One thing this team has lacked is passion over the past few years, and I think Girardi could light a fire under his guys better than Torre.
That's probably because he comes from the Don Zimmer school of thought, which may hurt his chances of becoming manager - Steinbrenner dislikes Zim, and by proxy, probably would favor Mattingly over Girardi for the nod.
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Johnny Damon is seeing a chiropractor. Okay. Now, he has to fly down to Florida to see this guy. Now, to paraphrase Mike Francesca (profanity is mine)...This chiropractor isn't fucking Jonas Salk...bring this fucking asshole to the Four Seasons before the Red Sox series, have him fix Damon up, and give me a fucking break.
While I'm not necessarily in favor of canning Torre (if I were a Yankee fan), I remember when the Yankees hired him, my reaction was that they were getting a retread. I remember him managing in the NL with the Mets,Braves and Cardinals with very limited success. Although he managed for 12-15 years there I don't think he was ever regarded as a top manager even though he caught lightning in a bottle one year and won the NL West with Atlanta. I thought part of the reason for his immediate success in 1996 was that he brought a National League style of baseball to the AL. Sure the Yankees made the play-offs with Showalter and had a young, strong nucleus of talent maturing, but I think more than his predecessors, he emphasized pitching and defense. I believe the team took more walks, stole more and basically forced the action. He is an extremely likeable guy, who was an all-star player, which made it easy for the young and upcoming Jeters, Posadas, Williamses, Pettites and Riveras to admire him, buy into his system and play hard for him. The hallmark of those Yankee teams was that there were no stars, just contributors. At the zenith of their success around 2000, they cut loose Tino Martinez to sign Giambi and Mussina at a salary only the Yankees could afford. They had already reached out for Clemens. In following years they signed Randy Johnson and Gary Sheffield and Alex Rodriguez, all high priced, high maintenance athletes, who, given their super star status, were less impressionable and impressed by Torre. Could it therefore be said that Torre's influence as a manager is more suited to a younger team and that his approach to the game is incompatible with the approach of a high priced all-star team? It is ironic that the Yankees have had more individual talent in recent years than they had in the late-90s, but haven't achieved at the same level. Anyway, that's just a thought. I agree that Mattingly wouldn't be a good fit as manager just the way I feel Cal Ripken wouldn't make a good manager. While both guys gave everything on the field, they both struck me as more introspective than outgoing. When the time comes to replace Torre, I also agree that a more emotional guy will be picked (although some might suggest there are corpses more emotional than Joe). I don't know if it's for the better. I think Torre's greatest achievement in 12 seasons with the Yankees is his firm maintenance of his even , professional, calm demeanor in the face of dealing with Steinbrenner, the cavalcade of egos and the rabid press. He's the same guy he was in 1995. While Piniella and Girardi may be able to achieve some level of success there, I don't know that they can endure for long in the Bronx. I'm also amused by Damon going to Florida to see a chiropractor. That's like driving 60 miles to go to a particular McDonald's. 
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