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Re: Season 6B, Episode 6 CONTAINS SPOILERS
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When Tony goes around to Christopher... Chris is talking nonsense and spitting up blood... he is taking Chris out of his misery. When AJ says "why cant we all just get along" I believe that is one of his last cries before he actually completes his move to the dark side. AJ is in. Its just a matter of time.
Man.... we sure have different takes on this show!! The only one being put out of misery (when Tony killed Chris) is TONY!! (FWIW - I thought, at first, that Tony was doing that as an act of mercy.... but after thinking about it I realized that Tony killed Chris only to save his own neck). As far as AJ... his "Rodney King" takeoff ("Why can't we all get along") was a cry of frustration and confusion over why we're so incompassionate to others.... its not a sign he's flipping. If anything, I think he'll go the opposite way and become a decent person because of his sensitivity to others.
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Re: Season 6B, Episode 6 CONTAINS SPOILERS
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Well AJ was never a terrible person to begin with. He was just a major fuck up during his teen years. I think he realized that he can do something with his life by going back to college and see's what could happen if he joins the mafia (the two Jason's).
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Re: Season 6B, Episode 6 CONTAINS SPOILERS
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Tony didnt kill Chrisopher. He lent a hand. When Tony goes around to Christopher... Chris is talking nonsense and spitting up blood... he is taking Chris out of his misery. Is that why Tony bagan to dial 911 and then stopped? To take Chris out of his misery? Or was it because he realized that if Chris lived and was found to have drugs in his system that he would have been busted and could have turned state's witness against Tony to make his own deal? My friend, I think that you need to re-watch that episode. Tony murdered Christopher. The episodes before this set the stage, and the conversatiosn with Melfi after he killed him confirmed it.
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Re: Season 6B, Episode 6 CONTAINS SPOILERS
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This morning on WFAN radio Lorraine Bracco was interviewed (bad interviewee BTW). The host, David Gregory claimed to be a big Sopraon fan. He asked her why she thought Tony killed Christopher. Her answer: he was a liability and a disappointment. He was suppose to be Tony's successor. As DC observed above, Tony stops in the middle of the 911 dial. I don't think he was reviewing Christopher's body of work or lack of....he was thinking short term. Drugs in his system, cops, testimony, he'll flip. Was Christopher saving Tony by telling him about the drugs in his system.....did Chris think Tony would kill him? Maybe. Under the circumstances, maybe Chris wanted out...permanently. Back to Bracco - Gregory asked her what was going to happen with Melfi. She said, you'll be surprised. 
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Re: Season 6B, Episode 6 CONTAINS SPOILERS
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It's strange to see her in character as Dr. Melfi, then has the cocaine snorting mafia wife in Goodfellas. Yeah, that's quite a contrast. That's why she turned down the role of Carmela (although we've never seen Carmela do drugs) she didn't want to play another mob wife.
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Re: Season 6B, Episode 6 CONTAINS SPOILERS
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Did anyone catch Michael Imperioli on Letterman last night? I intended to watch, but I feel asleep.
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Re: Season 6B, Episode 6 CONTAINS SPOILERS
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hey, i'm really glad to see that there is alot of discussion on this great episode. the last five episodes didn't get past the second page i don't think. anyways there is this video on youtube where the director put together a "six feet under" style ending for the sopranos. check it out, great song...and i think he used good clips for everyone. especially for tony's "death". here's the link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9xoM7KZU3g
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Re: Season 6B, Episode 6 CONTAINS SPOILERS
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As far as AJ goes, didn't he throw the guy's bicycle across the street? I think he's hugely conflicted, but his actions are taking him down the wrong path.
The scene reminded me a lot of "A Bronx Tale" (when Calogero was drawn into the fight against the bike riding blacks)... AJ, much like "C" was somewhat compelled to back his friends even though he was in disagreement with their reasons. I think AJ felt genuine conflicting pain by his actions (much like "C" did). That aside, its somewhat ironic that the pine barrens in southern Jersey are now experiencing a terrible fire... it was just announced that five miles of the Garden State Pkwy are closed due to smoke conditions. That is, the supposed area in which Chris and Paulie were lost while trying to kill the Russian "interior decorator" (  ) a few seasons back. (That episode WAS my favorite "Sopranos" one before seeing this past week's). I hope MaryCas' property will be OK (dunno how close he is to the fire).
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Re: Season 6B, Episode 6 CONTAINS SPOILERS
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Seeing AJ these last few episodes, involved in violent activities, partying, going to the shrink one week and saying how good he feels and then going the next week and showing how conflicted he was within himself, has really reminded me of how Tony started out in the begining of this series with his actions and his conflicting Melfi sessions. That's why I'm quietly hoping he redeems himself, that he breaks the chain to that life and thought process.
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Re: Season 6B, Episode 6 CONTAINS SPOILERS
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When Tony goes around to Christopher... Chris is talking nonsense and spitting up blood... he is taking Chris out of his misery. When AJ says "why cant we all just get along" I believe that is one of his last cries before he actually completes his move to the dark side. AJ is in. Its just a matter of time.
Man.... we sure have different takes on this show!! The only one being put out of misery (when Tony killed Chris) is TONY!! (FWIW - I thought, at first, that Tony was doing that as an act of mercy.... but after thinking about it I realized that Tony killed Chris only to save his own neck). As far as AJ... his "Rodney King" takeoff ("Why can't we all get along") was a cry of frustration and confusion over why we're so incompassionate to others.... its not a sign he's flipping. If anything, I think he'll go the opposite way and become a decent person because of his sensitivity to others. Well we really dont see it all that different... I did put a wink there... I know what was going on there... We have seen Tony get soft like AJ.. and then go Looney.... so AJ is infancy stage IMO.
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Re: Season 6B, Episode 6 CONTAINS SPOILERS
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Also, after watching reruns, when Pussy didn't come back from looking at the boat with Tony, Sil, and Paulie, didn't Pussy's wife report that or become suspicious?
Dude, why do you care? its over, let it gooo
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Re: Season 6B, Episode 6 CONTAINS SPOILERS
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Also, after watching reruns, when Pussy didn't come back from looking at the boat with Tony, Sil, and Paulie, didn't Pussy's wife report that or become suspicious?
Dude, why do you care? its over, let it gooo Hey Rocco, if you don't like his question or don't care to answer it, then just move on. This IS a Sopranos thread and his question is about the Sopranos. Olivant, I happened to watch the re-run on A&E last night when they killed Big Pussy. I believe that his wife initially thinks that he has run off and eventually Tony puts the word out that Pussy probably went into the witness protection program.
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Re: Season 6B, Episode 6 CONTAINS SPOILERS
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That aside, its somewhat ironic that the pine barrens in southern Jersey are now experiencing a terrible fire... it was just announced that five miles of the Garden State Pkwy are closed due to smoke conditions. That is, the supposed area in which Chris and Paulie were lost while trying to kill the Russian "interior decorator" (  ) a few seasons back. (That episode WAS my favorite "Sopranos" one before seeing this past week's). I LOVE the "Pine Barrens" episode. Having Paulie and Christopher trapped in an impossible situation together lead to some fantastic exchanges between the two. Quite possibly the most hilarious episode of the series! 
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Re: Season 6B, Episode 6 CONTAINS SPOILERS
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O yea the "Pine Barrens" is the second best episode in my opinion.
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Re: Season 6B, Episode 6 CONTAINS SPOILERS
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That aside, its somewhat ironic that the pine barrens in southern Jersey are now experiencing a terrible fire... it was just announced that five miles of the Garden State Pkwy are closed due to smoke conditions. That is, the supposed area in which Chris and Paulie were lost while trying to kill the Russian "interior decorator" (  ) a few seasons back. (That episode WAS my favorite "Sopranos" one before seeing this past week's). I LOVE the "Pine Barrens" episode. Having Paulie and Christopher trapped in an impossible situation together lead to some fantastic exchanges between the two. Quite possibly the most hilarious episode of the series! Only Steve Buscemi could have directed that epsiode! Paulie: He was an interior decorator Chris: Really? His house looked like shit...
"When my time comes, tell me, will I stand up?" Paulie "Walnuts" Gaultiere - The Sopranos
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Re: Season 6B, Episode 6 CONTAINS SPOILERS
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Also, after watching reruns, when Pussy didn't come back from looking at the boat with Tony, Sil, and Paulie, didn't Pussy's wife report that or become suspicious?
Dude, why do you care? its over, let it gooo Hey Rocco, if you don't like his question or don't care to answer it, then just move on. This IS a Sopranos thread and his question is about the Sopranos. Olivant, I happened to watch the re-run on A&E last night when they killed Big Pussy. I believe that his wife initially thinks that he has run off and eventually Tony puts the word out that Pussy probably went into the witness protection program. True enough, but my question is a temporal one. Pussy leaves with three of his companions all well known to his wife. His wife sees him leave with them, she knows where they're going, and she can figure it might take a few hours. He never returns and there's nothing from his wife such as "Tony, where's Pussy? He was with you guys. Where'd he go?" Also, his wife was close to Carmela. Don't you think she would have told Carmela that they all left together to look at a boat?
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