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Re: Movies You Just Watched Discussion
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ONCE A THIEF  (First Viewing) Once a Thief is an action/comedy/romance movie involving the plight of three master thieves (in the mode of Pink Panther). All three were raised by the same father and in fact were most certainly street orphans. The story begins with a successful art heist followed by a pledge to make this the last crime ever for the trio. The plot revolves around the theft of a mysterious "cursed" painting and how its obsession affects the family. Sadly, this is the worst John Woo film I've ever seen (and that includes MISSION: IMPOSSIBLE II). Luckily, Chow and Woo ended their relationship on a good note with HARD BOILED the year after this film's release. Some action but the comedy was weak and overall, Woo should stick with the shoot 'em up flicks.
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Re: Movies You Just Watched Discussion
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EPIC MOVIE (for the teenage crowd) Teenage is synonymous with dumb-shit?
"Somebody told me when the bomb hits, everybody in a two mile radius will be instantly sublimated, but if you lay face down on the ground for some time, avoiding the residual ripples of heat, you might survive, permanently fucked up and twisted like you're always underwater refracted. But if you do go gas, there's nothing you can do if the air that was once you is mingled and mashed with the kicked up molecules of the enemy's former body. Big-kid-tested, motherf--ker approved."
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Re: Movies You Just Watched Discussion
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05/24/07 08:01 PM
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Irish, quit using customers of Blockbuster. I'm sorry, but thats like depending on PLAYBOY subscribers to tell you what fucking is like. I'm telling you man, large breasted blonde women with a hankering for anal sex in stopped elevators; that's how it happens in real life.
"Somebody told me when the bomb hits, everybody in a two mile radius will be instantly sublimated, but if you lay face down on the ground for some time, avoiding the residual ripples of heat, you might survive, permanently fucked up and twisted like you're always underwater refracted. But if you do go gas, there's nothing you can do if the air that was once you is mingled and mashed with the kicked up molecules of the enemy's former body. Big-kid-tested, motherf--ker approved."
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Re: Movies You Just Watched Discussion
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ARCHANGEL (2005) - **
Don't you love it when suddenly an actor becomes famous as a marketing selling name, companies and distributors dig up their old works and re-release them?
A year before becoming possibly the best James Bond, Daniel Craig starred in the BBC TV picture adaptation of Robert Harris' mystery book about a western historian researching the opened-up Russian archives when he comes upon possibly Joseph Stalin's diaries...only to discover something more dreadful is on the arise...
Never read the book, but since I enjoyed Harris' FATHERLAND and ENIGMA novels, I'm sure ARCHANGEL was a good read.
BBC movies, like HBO, has great street cred for producing small movies that look and sometimes are as good as movies sent out to theatres. In this case, its like the digital cameras that hack direct-to-DVD horror productions are using were (again) shot on the cheap, and we get one giant underwhelming movie.
Really, your cinema history fails when it begins good, churns along allright, but by the 2nd half, you continuously lose interest and care of the mystery itself because of how weepy the filmmakers make it. Despite that, I was willing to give the movie a "watchable but forgettable as hlel" rating until the ending....
...when the opening quote is re-prised, and you immediately want to throw your shoe at the TV screen. Really, the only people that do such amatuerness are people who are unsecure of their own talents, and of the audience.
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Re: Movies You Just Watched Discussion
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Yeah, too bad the HBO movie tried its damn best to be commercial friendly and as cheerful as possible(though in a movie where the Nazis WIN and European Jewry is extinct, how IS that even practical?) Still, Rutger Hauer is awesome. FATHERLAND (1994) - **1/2
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Re: Movies You Just Watched Discussion
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PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN: AT WORLD'S END  (First Viewing) After Elizabeth (Keira Knightly), Will (Orlando Bloom), and Captain Barbossa (Geoffrey Rush) rescue Captain Jack Sparrow (Johnny Depp) from the clutches of the Kraken, they must face their foes, Davey Jones (Bill Nighy) and Lord Cutler Beckett (Tom Hollander). Beckett, now with control of Jones' heart, forms a dark alliance with him in order to rule the seas and wipe out the last of the Pirates. Now, Jack, Barbossa, Will, Elizabeth, Tia Delma, and crew must call the Pirate Lords from the four corners of the globe, including the infamous Sao Feng (Chow-Yun Fat), to a gathering that will make their final stand against Beckett, Jones, Norrington, the Flying Dutchman, and the entire East India Trading Company. Probably the weakest of the trilogy IMO. If you thought PIRATES 2 was long, this one's even longer (so prepare yourself). Not as much humor in this one and Johnny Depp I didn't find to be as loveably as he was in the original. After initially being against Chow Yun-Fat being cast in this film, I'm more upset now that they hardly used him. Plus, when Will died, I was hoping Elizabeth would go with Jack
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Re: Movies You Just Watched Discussion
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American History X **Depending on where you live, you might react differently to the issues of race addressed in the movie. As with Crash, I feel that the issue of racism has been treated in a very direct way, which I did not like much. It could have been a little subtle, but that is not to be expected since the main character is a neo-nazi, who are... well, not subtle at all in thier ideas. I don't know how true are the depictions of jail environment that is acutely divided into neo-nazi and black groups. Now moving on to the cinematic part, Edward Norton packs in a very powerful performance, one of his best IMO. His physical appearance and transformation is all so believable. There is a flashback scen in the end at the dinner table. His appearance and demeanor in that scene is so different from the initial ones that they almost look like two different actors. Great great acting. And that rape scene in jail is absolutely impacting There are some great scenes, but the overall execution of the film leaves me somewhat unsatisfied. RRA, I did not understand your comment on Edward Norton's role. Do you feel that he hijacked the movie to pad up his role?
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Re: Movies You Just Watched Discussion
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American History X **Depending on where you live, you might react differently to the issues of race addressed in the movie. As with Crash, I feel that the issue of racism has been treated in a very direct way, which I did not like much. It could have been a little subtle, but that is not to be expected since the main character is a neo-nazi, who are... well, not subtle at all in thier ideas. I don't know how true are the depictions of jail environment that is acutely divided into neo-nazi and black groups. Now moving on to the cinematic part, Edward Norton packs in a very powerful performance, one of his best IMO. His physical appearance and transformation is all so believable. There is a flashback scen in the end at the dinner table. His appearance and demeanor in that scene is so different from the initial ones that they almost look like two different actors. Great great acting. And that rape scene in jail is absolutely impacting There are some great scenes, but the overall execution of the film leaves me somewhat unsatisfied. RRA, I did not understand your comment on Edward Norton's role. Do you feel that he hijacked the movie to pad up his role? Who knows. I just know the film's credited director CLAIMS that "his cut" of the movie is better, and would have won Norton the Oscar. Norton hated THAT cut and basically got New Line Cinema to play it his way(or he threatened to disown it). Still, I would like to see that original edit for kick's sake.
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Re: Movies You Just Watched Discussion
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05/25/07 11:13 PM
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I know the original script included a shot of Norton shaving his head in front of a bathroom mirror, after his brother had been shot. If the original cut included that, it'd be all the more interesting. I just don't know which ending would have bettered the film, cinematically or emotionally.
"Somebody told me when the bomb hits, everybody in a two mile radius will be instantly sublimated, but if you lay face down on the ground for some time, avoiding the residual ripples of heat, you might survive, permanently fucked up and twisted like you're always underwater refracted. But if you do go gas, there's nothing you can do if the air that was once you is mingled and mashed with the kicked up molecules of the enemy's former body. Big-kid-tested, motherf--ker approved."
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Re: Movies You Just Watched Discussion
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I forget where I read it; perhaps the miscellaneous facts section of its wikipedia page? I don't recall. Or perhaps it was IMDB trivia. I know, neither sound that fruitful a source.  But I've thought it over many times. Both would add a nice emotional spike to the climax. The alternative suggesting that you can never really correct a warped mind... I like it. I think I prefer it, actually, on the basis that I'm just a dark mother fucker.
"Somebody told me when the bomb hits, everybody in a two mile radius will be instantly sublimated, but if you lay face down on the ground for some time, avoiding the residual ripples of heat, you might survive, permanently fucked up and twisted like you're always underwater refracted. But if you do go gas, there's nothing you can do if the air that was once you is mingled and mashed with the kicked up molecules of the enemy's former body. Big-kid-tested, motherf--ker approved."
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Re: Movies You Just Watched Discussion
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American History X **Depending on where you live, you might react differently to the issues of race addressed in the movie. As with Crash, I feel that the issue of racism has been treated in a very direct way, which I did not like much. It could have been a little subtle, but that is not to be expected since the main character is a neo-nazi, who are... well, not subtle at all in thier ideas. I don't know how true are the depictions of jail environment that is acutely divided into neo-nazi and black groups. Now moving on to the cinematic part, Edward Norton packs in a very powerful performance, one of his best IMO. His physical appearance and transformation is all so believable. There is a flashback scen in the end at the dinner table. His appearance and demeanor in that scene is so different from the initial ones that they almost look like two different actors. Great great acting. And that rape scene in jail is absolutely impacting There are some great scenes, but the overall execution of the film leaves me somewhat unsatisfied. RRA, I did not understand your comment on Edward Norton's role. Do you feel that he hijacked the movie to pad up his role? Who knows. I just know the film's credited director CLAIMS that "his cut" of the movie is better, and would have won Norton the Oscar. Norton hated THAT cut and basically got New Line Cinema to play it his way(or he threatened to disown it). Still, I would like to see that original edit for kick's sake. I know this is off the subject but I heard Martin Scorsese had to cut about 45 minutes of GANGS OF NEW YORK (it was almost 4 hours). That is most definitely a movie that I would like to see the extended version, but Miramax (or whoever owns the rights now) has been reluctant to release it 
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