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Re: Airport Security [Re: Don Cardi] #398222
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 Originally Posted By: Don Cardi
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[Now that is 1% as I suspected, not 25%.



You need to get the facts straight.

25% of Muslims UNDER THE AGE OF 30 years old have said that they approve of suicide bombings in the name of their religion.

I don't know if the report in Pew is "straight fact" or not. But that is what Pew reports.
This is what was the statistic for under 30 years:

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Among Muslims younger than 30, for example, 15% say that suicide bombing can often or sometimes be justified (2% often,13% sometimes),
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That is again 2% (13% are subjective, like the 7% for overall population). Are you saying I am not quoting them correct or what? I did not see 25% in their report, which is HERE

Re: Airport Security [Re: Double-J] #398223
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 Originally Posted By: Double-J

First off, perhaps you should check into the AP and Pew, and you'll find they are quite reputed sources.

Thanks for the suggestion, I will.

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Secondly, DC has already pointed out the flaw in your conclusion.

Such as? Please tell me where in the Pew report, it says 25%. I didn't bring this pew thing. Maybe it is 25% (I don't think/believe so, still for the sake of argument), but it is not mentioned in the report. I attached a link in my previous post. Please read.

Re: Airport Security [Re: svsg] #398224
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 Originally Posted By: svsg
Please read.


http://news.bostonherald.com/national/view.bg?articleid=1002555

"That sentiment is strongest among those younger than 30. Two percent of them say it can often be justified, 13 percent say sometimes and 11 percent say rarely."

13
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26%

So, one percent more, actually. Roughly 1/4th, or 25%.



Re: Airport Security [Re: Double-J] #398228
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 Originally Posted By: Double-J
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Please read.


http://news.bostonherald.com/national/view.bg?articleid=1002555


I attached the entire report from their website . Why should I read (I read it though) it through some journalist's filter? Tell me how that 1 in 4 data comes from what is there in the actual report. It is exactly what LLC described - reporting to make things sensational.

Re: Airport Security [Re: svsg] #398230
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Well, whether it's exaggerated or not, 1 out of a thousand is too many. They're living under our flag, not fucking Allah's!


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Re: Airport Security [Re: svsg] #398232
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Again those sometimes/rarely numbers don't mean anything. If I were to tell the partial truth quoting that Hiroshima thread that "5 out of 20 members in our board support civilian killings sometimes/rarely" it would be absurd. All the pages and pages of debate is required to understand what exactly people are saying. Only 2% of population under 30 and 1% of all population favored suicide bombing. That is still a small minority. It does not need a widespread racial action.

Re: Airport Security [Re: svsg] #398234
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I know what you're saying svsg, and I could honestly go either way on airport profiling. It's just that this country has been very good to these people and it's ridiculous that even 1 percent of them think that way.


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Re: Airport Security [Re: pizzaboy] #398236
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 Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
Well, whether it's exaggerated or not, 1 out of a thousand is too many. They're living under our flag, not fucking Allah's!

Good point (expletives notwithstanding). There is a small possibility that one in a million white christian american can be convinced/coerced/threatened to carry out a bomb blast in USA. That is the reason everyone should be checked at airports and not just that small minority of muslims.

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 Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
I know what you're saying svsg, and I could honestly go either way on airport profiling. It's just that this country has been very good to these people and it's ridiculous that even 1 percent of them think that way.

If they are so dis-satisfied with America to the extent of killing people, they shouldn't be citizens of this country in the first place, because most of them are foreign born as per the survey. It is just ridiculous that these 1% people support killing civilians for religion. I agree, they should not have any place in a legal society, except perhaps in jails.

Re: Airport Security [Re: svsg] #398239
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I don't put any credence in the poll and feel that it is kind of silly. If 1 in 4 American Muslims support suicide bombings, where are all the suicide bombings in the U.S.?

The poll is, as I've said before, meant to mislead and justify discrimination and fear against Muslim Americans, many of whom are not Arabs.

Refusing to subject them to special scrutiny, based on their ethnic origin or religion, without probable cause, is not a matter of political correctness; it is a matter of Constitutional mandate.

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 Originally Posted By: svsg
 Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
I know what you're saying svsg, and I could honestly go either way on airport profiling. It's just that this country has been very good to these people and it's ridiculous that even 1 percent of them think that way.

If they are so dis-satisfied with America to the extent of killing people, they shouldn't be citizens of this country in the first place, because most of them are foreign born as per the survey. It is just ridiculous that these 1% people support killing civilians for religion. I agree, they should not have any place in a legal society, except perhaps in jails.


Thank you svsg, we fundamentally agree on this issue.

PB


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Re: Airport Security [Re: Sicilian Babe] #398257
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 Originally Posted By: Sicilian Babe
Having spent time doing summerstock in my youth, I know how easy it is to make a 21 year old girl look like a 70 year old woman.


With that being said, now I don't know if I've really met the real you!!! \:p



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Re: Airport Security [Re: Sicilian Babe] #398259
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 Originally Posted By: Sicilian Babe
I don't know about that. I would think that a fake pair of breasts would be a perfect place to hide some explosives, no??


I've seen some explosive breasts over the years.



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Re: Airport Security [Re: Don Cardi] #398262
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 Originally Posted By: Don Cardi
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Having spent time doing summerstock in my youth, I know how easy it is to make a 21 year old girl look like a 70 year old woman.



Yes, but can you make a 40 something chick look 21?

Aw PB, that was just mean. \:p


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Re: Airport Security [Re: klydon1] #398264
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 Originally Posted By: klydon1
I don't put any credence in the poll


Truthfully Klyd, I don't put any credence in pollS period.



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Re: Airport Security [Re: Don Cardi] #398265
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 Originally Posted By: Don Cardi
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I don't know about that. I would think that a fake pair of breasts would be a perfect place to hide some explosives, no??


I've seen some explosive breasts over the years.




And I'm sure in the pure interest of public safety, you spent much time dismantling those explosives. ;\) \:D

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 Originally Posted By: pizzaboy

Yes, but can you make a 40 something chick look 21?


Obviously you've never had the honor of meeting SB.

She looks 21, naturally.



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Re: Airport Security [Re: Don Cardi] #398267
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 Originally Posted By: Don Cardi
 Originally Posted By: pizzaboy

Yes, but can you make a 40 something chick look 21?


Obviously you've never had the honor of meeting SB.

She looks 21, naturally.


Kiss ass. \:p


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Re: Airport Security [Re: klydon1] #398269
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 Originally Posted By: klydon1
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I don't know about that. I would think that a fake pair of breasts would be a perfect place to hide some explosives, no??


I've seen some explosive breasts over the years.




And I'm sure in the pure interest of public safety, you spent much time dismantling those explosives. ;\) \:D


I'll take the job. But you can bet dollars to donuts that I'll be accused of profiling because I'll only check the breasts of those who fit this type of profile :



\:D



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Re: Airport Security [Re: Don Cardi] #398270
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They'd kill you, DC. But what a great way to go.


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Re: Airport Security [Re: pizzaboy] #398271
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 Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
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Yes, but can you make a 40 something chick look 21?


Obviously you've never had the honor of meeting SB.

She looks 21, naturally.


Kiss ass. \:p





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 Originally Posted By: Don Cardi
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I don't know about that. I would think that a fake pair of breasts would be a perfect place to hide some explosives, no??


I've seen some explosive breasts over the years.




And I'm sure in the pure interest of public safety, you spent much time dismantling those explosives. ;\) \:D


I'll take the job. But you can bet dollars to donuts that I'll be accused of profiling because I'll only check the breasts of those who fit this type of profile :





\:D
 Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
They'd kill you, DC. But what a great way to go.


Then I want to be killed! \:D



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I'm with you pal.


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 Originally Posted By: Double-J
"That sentiment is strongest among those younger than 30. Two percent of them say it can often be justified, 13 percent say sometimes and 11 percent say rarely."

13
+11
+ 2
____

26%

So, one percent more, actually. Roughly 1/4th, or 25%.


They're animals anyway, so let them lose their souls.



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 Originally Posted By: Don Cardi
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 Originally Posted By: klydon1
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I don't know about that. I would think that a fake pair of breasts would be a perfect place to hide some explosives, no??


I've seen some explosive breasts over the years.




And I'm sure in the pure interest of public safety, you spent much time dismantling those explosives. ;\) \:D


I'll take the job. But you can bet dollars to donuts that I'll be accused of profiling because I'll only check the breasts of those who fit this type of profile :





\:D
 Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
They'd kill you, DC. But what a great way to go.


Then I want to be killed! \:D


Now if these two ladies were stopped by airport security for scrutiny, you can bet that Osama bin laden and his 48 brothers could dance a Conga line onto the plane without getting a second look.

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I don't think those are the virgins that Allah promised them.


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I don't even know how to comment on any of this!!


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You? Speechless? You? Nothing to say?

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 Originally Posted By: Don Cardi
You? Speechless? You? Nothing to say?


Well, after the lovely compliment you paid me, what could I possibly say??


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