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Re: Made In America- Final Episode POSSIBLE SPOILERS
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I also loved the scene between Tony and Sil. No need for words, was there??? Well, if Sil's in a coma.............haha.
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Re: Made In America- Final Episode POSSIBLE SPOILERS
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Well i don't think he originally wanted tony to die anyways. I had read somewhere a few years ago, after Nancy Marchant died, that chase was originally planning on ending the series with Livia's death. But due to Nancy's untimely death the whole series changed its course. Man sometimes i think about how different the series could have turned out if Livia was still around.
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Re: Made In America- Final Episode POSSIBLE SPOILERS
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I think Chase is great. He films three different endings, the other two probably being a happy and sad one, and with all the "what'll happen to Tony?" hype, he simply left it to your imagination. Tony may have gotten killed, may have been happy, and maybe the feds built their case to finally bring him down.
So what if you didn't see it? It's your call, and let's be honest, not one of us watched those last few minutes and didn't have a racing heartbeat. Chase played with our emotions like a violin, and then took the wind out of us, without giving in to expectation.
Exactly right Vercetti.
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Re: Made In America- Final Episode POSSIBLE SPOILERS
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I hope your joking, after all the lead up, this whole epsiode sucked.
Not joking at all.... its Chase's style NOT to tie things up and he didn't sell out at the end. I'm happy for that!! Those last few minutes were as suspenseful as anything I've seen on tv. I think a lot of people will think that. Kudos to Chase for giving our collective imaginations some exercise. BTW - Who is to say that all those "suspicious" looking guys in the ice cream parlor aren't really Tony's bodyguards? Who is to say that they simply don't like ice cream and happened to be there at the same time as Tony? Who is to say that they weren't there to whack Tony?? We'll never know now, except for the deep recesses of our own imagination. 
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Re: Made In America- Final Episode POSSIBLE SPOILERS
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I hope your joking, after all the lead up, this whole epsiode sucked. The war ended up being a joke. Phil's guys are going to turn on him like that?
I still say Tony dreamed all this as he entered the joint in the clothes he visited Junior in.
It would have been better if he just woke up and Kevin Finnery.
I know you're joking!~ No, I am not.. You keep saying Tension at the end. How could someone get shot when Tony walks in and is watching himself there? This episode sucked, It will be ripped in the media tomorrow as it was probably the highest watched show tonight. I wouldn't touch the movie after this performance, just sad two of you can't see what others are saying, especially after the huge build up. Thanks Chase for all the years, but of that is the best you can end with, good riddance.
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Re: Made In America- Final Episode POSSIBLE SPOILERS
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I like how the last thing heard is Journey, "Don't stop!"
"Who will you run to" "Don't Stop Believeing" "I gotta be me" All the songs that Tony focused on when looking at the juke box. 
Don Cardi Five - ten years from now, they're gonna wish there was American Cosa Nostra. Five - ten years from now, they're gonna miss John Gotti.
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Re: Made In America- Final Episode POSSIBLE SPOILERS
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Who didn't think we were going to get a GF III ending with Meadow taking a bullet meant for Tony, when she walked in? That was exactly the ending I was anticipating.
How about a little less questions and a lot more shut the hell up - Brian Griffin
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Re: Made In America- Final Episode POSSIBLE SPOILERS
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Personally I like to think Tony eventually falls and somehow it carries onto his family.
I think one of the best things about the Sopranos is how much relaity is played into family alone. Think of all the things Tony and AJ have been saying lately. Tonight AJ said "You always with the drama!" just like Livia. I think one of the series biggest points is how family is passed down, whether they're good or bad things, and with AJ loving the fire of his car, I think he's going down the path of a sociopath.
I think Chase overall tried to use this series simply to convey ideas. He conveyed his own feelings (He was in clinical depression, sleeping 18 hours a day and playing drums, similar to AJ), and his views on the world. Think of Luxury Lounge where all the expensive stuff was free, and how it tempted Chris into movies.
I think Chase put a lot of himself into it, especially AJ's rant about us being distracted by fantasies. I don't think it was meant to be like some of his favorite films like The Public Enemy where there's a rise and fall. I think he simply used a series to show a slice of life and ideas, with no definite end.
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Re: Made In America- Final Episode POSSIBLE SPOILERS
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just sad two of you can't see what others are saying, especially after the huge build up. Hmmm... I was thinking the same thing about you.  Read through these "Sopranos" threads and you'll always find differeing opinions on the shows.... thats to be expected. We, obviously, have different viewpoints on this show and thats alright...
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Re: Made In America- Final Episode POSSIBLE SPOILE
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Ending was Awesome no better way to wrap it up then a family dinner with the Sopranos b/c after all it is a family show.
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Re: Made In America- Final Episode POSSIBLE SPOILERS
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Who didn't think we were going to get a GF III ending with Meadow taking a bullet meant for Tony, when she walked in? That was exactly the ending I was anticipating. And that's a possibility. Meadow was going to sit next to Tony. Also think of the way it ended with "Don't stop!" With all the tension it made a upbeat song sound almost like a warning.
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Re: Made In America- Final Episode POSSIBLE SPOILERS
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The scene with Uncle Junior and Tony made the episodes one of the best i have ver seen. It looked like tony was going to cry when he was there with Junior
Travis Bickle: Loneliness has followed me my whole life, everywhere. In bars, in cars, sidewalks, stores, everywhere. There's no escape. I'm God's lonely man. -Taxi Driver
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Re: Made In America- Final Episode POSSIBLE SPOILERS
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Who didn't think we were going to get a GF III ending with Meadow taking a bullet meant for Tony, when she walked in? That was exactly the ending I was anticipating. And that's a possibility. Meadow was going to sit next to Tony. Also think og the way it ended with "Don't stop!" With all the tension it made a upbeat song sound almost like a warning. And as I pointed out in another post, "Who will you run to" "Don't Stop Believeing" "I gotta be me" All the songs that Tony focused on when looking at the juke box. All have meaning for what took place and was happening if you really think about it. Almost everything that has been going through Tony's mind throughout the entire seven years.
Don Cardi Five - ten years from now, they're gonna wish there was American Cosa Nostra. Five - ten years from now, they're gonna miss John Gotti.
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Re: Made In America- Final Episode POSSIBLE SPOILERS
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That scene got to me Uncle junior is so helpless in that prison and tony saw him as an helpless old man who is rotting.
Travis Bickle: Loneliness has followed me my whole life, everywhere. In bars, in cars, sidewalks, stores, everywhere. There's no escape. I'm God's lonely man. -Taxi Driver
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Re: Made In America- Final Episode POSSIBLE SPOILERS
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I think Chase put a lot of himself into it, especially AJ's rant about us being distracted by fantasies.
AJ "sold out"..... all of a sudden his life had some direction (the movie thing) and he snapped out of his depression and didn't give a shit about the environment anymore.
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