That was actually in an episode from season 4. Carmine Sr told Tony at a barbecue at his house that a don doen't wear shorts.

I really think the shorts are central to Tony's psyche. There's a part of him, the part who reached out for therapy, that wants to be the guy next door, wearing the shorts and barbecuing. An American everyman. Then there's his dark side, which always wins out.

IMHO, that's why Gandolfini was cast. He really looks like the guy next door (when he's not killing people). I think they deliberately didn't cast the guy with the dark eyes, olive skin and thick black hair, for that very reason.


Gandolfini is certainly Italian-American, but he's got an everyman look to him. That's what makes him perfect in the role.

Maybe Carmine was playing the real Don. James said he actually does get feedback from the real mafia, and one actually told him they don't wear shorts.

I'm sure he does. I was just speaking of Tony's desire to be a "normal" guy.

BTW - I've seen wiseguys wear shorts to Long Beach, with black socks and white shoes.

And I'm not kidding.

Better hope his fellow wise guys don't get wind of that. He might get whacked just for that.

I never saw the movie The Mexican, but in it Gandolfini plays a gay hit man. Too bad Vito never knew of that crew..haha.

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No, he's not. He looks 10 years older than that. It's the weight. Hopefully, for his own sake, he'll lose it now that the show is over.

Pizzaboy, you took the words right out of my mouth! I've read articles in the past that said Chase told Gandolfini and Van Zandt to gain weight. Van Zant has gained 45 pounds since the pilot was shot, I'd say Gandolfini is in that area too. Maybe those layers of fat slowed the shot fired Junior, thus saving Tony!

Tony gets shot by Melfi.

In the episode of Inside the Actor's studio Gandolfini was on he indicated how through the years he's been small and fat. He said for the character of Tony Soprano it works when he's heavier. Be it the way he walks or folds his arms it really changes the character when he's heavier. I think that makes sense.

I think we've the last of Melfi, Smitty.

A half hour into the show. I wonder who's died so far.

this is boring...

40 minutes into and this show sucks!

loved the series, but the ending sucked big time.. Big booo

I wonder how long it'll take before someone puts it on youtube.

So what happened?

for a minute i thought my power went off there at the end, i nearly freaked out!

dumb!

There must be millions and millons of people watching this tonight and I'm telling you that this was a big fuckin disappointment. Fuckin Chase should be hung up my his balls and beat with a baseball bat.


Chase just fucked us all..big time!

WHAT HAPPENED fathersson?

Wait.. so what just happened.. that was the ending??

Nothing happened. Just ended with them in a resturant, Tony, Meadow, AJ, Carm..

Mead couldnt park her car.

The tension was so high and BAM!

I actually thought it was kinda cool in a way. I'm glad it wasn't all wrapped up in a nice neat package - this isn't Seinfeld.

And if there ever is a movie, we got plenty left to work with.

(DAMN! The Russian didn't return!)

I cant believe I stayed up for that shit!!!

I really hope it's over. I think a movie would be disappointing.

This was a chance, the viewership was the highest tonight and nothing.

I loved this series, but that was total crap, not cool, not nothing, it totally sucked.

I was loving the episode up until the final scene where there is NO conclusion! The scene where Phil gets killed was outstanding. I think it's clear that there will be a movie.

I take it neither did Ade.

I've added Chase to my list of people who I will kick in the balls if I ever run into them. He is right up there with OJ Simpson.

i'll say i was tense, i kept thinking the one guy with the hat was either from new york out for revenge...or was a fed getting ready for a sting.

What the fuck...

Seriously.

Hey, Bob made an appearance with "It's Alright Ma (I'm Only Bleeding".