How did Junior get so much worse from the 3rd episode to the last one?

Thanks for your 3" cannol'

You watched the show "out of loyalty"?????

Your post is your opinion, of course, and you're certainly entitled to it. I disagree with everything you said though.

I loved the episode and the ending, the tension is so high and you wonder if Tony gets whacked or if we're just paranoid.

Paulie was working for phil and no one seems to get that.

What the heck are you talking about?????

I can't SWEAR to it but I'm fairly sure that the scene in which Bruno was talking to Phil (on the phone as Bruno is walking down the Little Italy street) was filmed on Mott Street directly across the street from where Vito Corleone was gunned down.

Phil ordered hits on everyone in tony's crew except for Paulie. Paulie was up there in the family, high enough that he should have had a price on his head. it doesnt make any sense to me AT ALL that there was no attempt on Paulie's life.

Well, it's already been mentioned that Paulie isn't really "upper management" and also he's not exactly the thinking man's wiseguy.

Not taking out Paulie would benefit New York. He, i imagine, would probably be next in line if they had managed to kill Tony. And him not having the brains Tony has would mean he'd have no ambition and wouldn't try and get in New Yorks way.

Who was the respected neutral guy that set up the meeting

he WAS in management and is married to Tony' sister.
he was an obvious target.

Paulie? As in, Paulie Walnuts?

hahaha, man im an idiot.
well put

No, I didn't call you that.

Don't sweat it.

Even though it's the end, I'm still happy because I have alot to discover, since I started out very late in the Sopranos game.

Right at the time when the sets are starting to become a little less expensive too.

so did anyone else notice Tony went in the resturant in the clothes he had on when he saw Junior and saw himself sitting there?

I saw Tony sitting there but not Junior. Have to see it again.

maybe there is some sort of meaning to Tony seeing himself in the restaurant that we're missing

Did anyone find it interesting that when Tony and Meadow were in the restaurant, that Meadow tells Tony the reason she decided to be a lawyer was because of how they treat Italians and all the times she saw the police take Tony away??? She's gotta know and has so much as asked Tony about his business and him being in the mafia? She can't be that naive.


TIS

She's somewhat naive because she grew up "in the life" and is in denial about the extent of her father's involvement. Didn't you see the look Tony gave her when she said that?

i havent seen the earlier episodes, but have seen meadow ask "are you in the mafia?" in various trailers.
what is tony's response to the question?

There's only one street in Little Italy now, so no doubt... tho isn't that scene shot in what's now Chinatown (last time we went)?

Phil didn't have a hit put out on Carlo either, and he's a Capo too.

"We decapitate the management and do business with whoever's left."

Mott Street.... its all Chinese now but was considered Little Italy.

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Still doesn't beat the record on the previous forums, which was well over 100 -- but that total isn't showing up there any more... nor the date...

Well yeah - Little Italy used to be like 40 blocks -- not as "little"

As for Paulie's new job - I don't think it's Consigliere - Sil is Consigliere... Paulie mentioned all the names of his (dead) predecessors, including Ralphie and Ritchie and Vito, and even Gigi! ( ) He's just running a real crew now, as opposed to whatever the hell he was doing before...

He was acting in the role of consigliere when he accompanied Tony to the sitdown with Bruno. Tony later asked him to be skipper of Ralphie's old crew.

Season 1, Episode 5 I think..."College"

"There is no mafia!"

Where, oh where to begin...

On a gut level, it was one of the most disappointing things I've ever seen on television (as far as show finales go). But, I'll get back to that in a moment.

It was technically well-crafted, manipulative, and seemed that Chase was showing off (since he also wrote and directed the episode). I really was expecting something more as far as plot and character resolutions. I guess that we should at least be glad that the Phil Leotardo situation ended with (as SC would say) a SPLAT. I did feel incredibly manipulated and then I, too, thought my cable signal had gone out. Like almost everyone else, I was waiting for something that never happened.

So, the whole wrap-up is really telling us, "Nothing's really changed; life goes on."

On reflection, I guess the biggest thing we were concerning ourselves with was: will Phil get whacked before Tony does? And now that Phil is dead, the immediate threat to Tony is over. So, I guess Chase wanted to have his fun at our expense as far as the rest of the episode. Story-wise, nothing else really mattered or called for any sort of resolution except the Phil problem. Fair enough. But, that's why I said that on a gut level, I was disappointed. I was waiting for something to come out of all those red herrings we were thrown and...it ended up as a great big fat Mafiosus Interruptus.

That was my gut reaction.

The ending "works" (if I can call it that) only when you reflect upon it. Tony will probably go to trial, Uncle Junior's too-rapid descent into dementia will continue (helped, no doubt, by the probability of his being over-medicated), Meadow will get married, Sil will remain comatose, etc.

But because I have to "reflect" on the ending to "appreciate" it on any level at all, it still doesn't change the incredible feeling of let-down and disappointment I had when viewing it for the first time. This is one audience member who doesn't care to be toyed with unless there is a real payoff before the final credits. (Maybe that's why I like Alfred Hitchcock's films...)

As an aside, I recognized Donna Pescow immediately. She went to high school with a bunch of friends of mine at Sheepshead Bay High School in Brooklyn (she was class of 1972). Interestingly enough, the other female lead from Saturday Night Fever, Karen Lynn Gorney, has also been on The Sopranos (but I was never able to spot her - anyone remember who she played?). I think that 1980s series she (Pescow) was in was called Out of This World - she played a mother whose daughter was fathered by an alien (outer space, not "undocumented").

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