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Re: Singer at Connies Wedding
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05/29/07 06:58 PM
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While watching the Saga on my DVR, I slowed down the scene where the old man who was singing at Connie's wedding gets out of the car at Vito's funeral. It turns out that both my friends, Turnbull and SC, were right. He is not Nazorine's father, as I originally thought he was. If you slow down and go frame by frame when the cars pull up in the cemetary, you can see one of the other Don's getting out of a car and then the old man coming out of that same car right behind him. Then if you go back to the commission meeting, if you pay close attention, as Vito is introducing the heads of the families and the camera is scanning the room, you can see the same old man who was singing at Connie's wedding sitting at the table. So my friends, you both were correct. The old man is NOT Nazorine's father. I owe the both of you a dinner. Right before he gets out of the car ( above pic ) in the movie you can see one of the other Dons getting out of the same car.
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Re: Singer at Connies Wedding
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05/29/07 08:55 PM
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While watching the Saga on my DVR, I slowed down the scene where the old man who was singing at Connie's wedding gets out of the car at Vito's funeral. It turns out that both my friends, Turnbull and SC, were right. He is not Nazorine's father, as I originally thought he was. If you slow down and go frame by frame when the cars pull up in the cemetary, you can see one of the other Don's getting out of a car and then the old man coming out of that same car right behind him. Then if you go back to the commission meeting, if you pay close attention, as Vito is introducing the heads of the families and the camera is scanning the room, you can see the same old man who was singing at Connie's wedding sitting at the table. So my friends, you both were correct. The old man is NOT Nazorine's father. I owe the both of you a dinner. Right before he gets out of the car ( above pic ) in the movie you can see one of the other Dons getting out of the same car. Why did anyone think he was Nazorine's father. How did that come up? Also, the guy who was shot in the elevator was a short, animated guy. It wasn't Stracci.
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Re: Singer at Connies Wedding
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05/29/07 11:29 PM
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Maybe Paramount fell short of actors at that time and made one play the roles of two. minor mistake.
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Re: Singer at Connies Wedding
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05/30/07 10:41 AM
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....hence the old fashioned Italian "football" wedding.
I like it! Personally I always thought they were hamming it up in that scene.
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Re: Singer at Connies Wedding
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06/06/07 09:32 AM
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Okay, which one is Stracci?
The one Clemenza shotgunned in the elevator. (Neri shot Barzini; Willie Cicci got Cuneo in the revolving door; Rocco Lampone shot Philip Tattaglia in bed with the whore).
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Re: Singer at Connies Wedding
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Okay, which one is Stracci?
The one Clemenza shotgunned in the elevator. (Neri shot Barzini; Willie Cicci got Cuneo in the revolving door; Rocco Lampone shot Philip Tattaglia in bed with the whore). I am still confused over this. Cuneo gets shot in the revolving door. As the camera pans across the attendees at the dons' conference, I don't recall seeing the don that was shot inthe elevator. It certainly wasn't the tall, elderly guy that we've identified as Stracci. Right? Where else in the movie was he identified? The GF is coming on in a few minutes. I'll watch those scenes again. But let me know what you think.
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Re: Singer at Connies Wedding
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06/07/07 04:19 PM
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I am still confused over this. Cuneo gets shot in the revolving door. As the camera pans across the attendees at the dons' conference, I don't recall seeing the don that was shot inthe elevator. It certainly wasn't the tall, elderly guy that we've identified as Stracci. Right? Where else in the movie was he identified? OK... here is Stracci at the meeting (on the right; the left is Don Zaluchi from Detroit): And here is Stracci in the elevator (the second guy in back):
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Re: Singer at Connies Wedding
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06/07/07 07:58 PM
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OK, SC, I have a question. Clemenza kills him in the elevator. However, there are three men in the elevator and the shotgun only fires twice. Would Clemenza leave a witness?? Doubtful, but he could've easily got two with one shot. Stracci probably tried to hide behind the elevator operator after the first shotgun blast.
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Re: Singer at Connies Wedding
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06/07/07 09:46 PM
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I am still confused over this. Cuneo gets shot in the revolving door. As the camera pans across the attendees at the dons' conference, I don't recall seeing the don that was shot inthe elevator. It certainly wasn't the tall, elderly guy that we've identified as Stracci. Right? Where else in the movie was he identified? OK... here is Stracci at the meeting (on the right; the left is Don Zaluchi from Detroit): And here is Stracci in the elevator (the second guy in back): Thanks. I just watched the Dons' meeting and as the camera pans from right to left past Tattaglia there is the elderly guy. Just as he comes in the frame Vito thanks Victor Stracci at which time the camera then points across the table to the Don sitting next to Zalucci. So, it is confusing. The elderly guy is obviously a Don, but he is never identified with any family. So, since all the NY dons are accounted for, maybe he's head of the NJ or Philly families. As far as the elevator shots are concerned, keep in mind that Clemenza is firing a shotgun at close range in quite a confined area. It is not likely that anyone inside survived. The better question is how did Clemenza know that Stracci was in the elevator since Clemenza was running up the steps at the time.
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Re: Singer at Connies Wedding
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06/10/07 04:19 PM
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Someone here - I forget who - had a logical, if purely speculative, argument that the old guy was Nazorine the Baker's father.
Nazorine is up there on the stage with him, and they exchange some words while there, I believe. Well, if that were the case, why does the Nazorine go to Vito for help instead of his own father who was a don. He is one of the dons at the dons' conference. No Olivant, you miss the whole point here. And being that our friend Plaw, whom you quoted, is no longer here to answer you about this, I will take the liberty of answering for him. No one ever said that the guy was a Don AND Nazorine's father. At the time several of us did not realize that he was one of the Dons. So we were speculating that because Mama, in the wedding scene, motioned and called for Nazorine to come up and sing, and then we are shown the old man singing, that he may have been Nazorine's father. No one here ever said that he was BOTH.
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