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The movies that went all the way - reviews
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06/15/07 12:54 AM
06/15/07 12:54 AM
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Willard: Never get out of the boat. Absolutely goddamn right. Unless you were goin' all the way. Kurtz got off the boat. He split from the whole fuckin' program. This thread will end with Willard, my hero, but for now I am in a world of Kutzian morality. In the coming days, I will review some of the most disturbing, repulsive and forbidden movies ever made. Some of these were banned for a good reason. Some of them continue to be banned or available in mainstream only in heavily cut versions. But I will review the uncut versions. Some of them could be B-grade horror porn, whereas others are great movies that are just beyond social acceptability. These film-makers went too far and went all the way. And so will be my choice of movies for the next few days. When I return, I will review two mainstream movies that I am going to watch, in the movies thread– The Birds and 2001 A Space Odyssey. The first review is a repeat from the movies thread, but it is here for the sake of completeness. Again these movies are not for everyone. In fact, these movies are not for most people. You are warned!
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Re: The movies that went all the way - reviews
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06/15/07 10:15 AM
06/15/07 10:15 AM
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Firstly, why haven't you posted this in General Discussion on the film board? I think it would benefit both this thread and the board in general if you did.
Secondly, I admire what you're doing by exploring these. I think a lot of these films are easily dismissed a lot of the time as just pornographic gimmicks, to see how far they can push boundaries. Sometimes, it may well be a valid criticism. But then you might find a film with real complexity and meaning to be found in it, not only in its subject matter but the manner in which it treats it. Anyone can make a film about someone eating shit, but to link it to political and social allegory takes a brave, confident and rare talent.
I'd recommend A Hole in My Heart by Lukas Moodysson. I found in it unfavourable comparisons to Godard's Weekend, with consumerism and capitalism attacked with the same ferocious energy but the gimmicky need to "shock". I say gimmicky because that was my criticism at the time, and it was an ill-informed one; I'd like to see it again.
Irréversible, like I said, would be in my top ten if I ever get round to doing that list.
Two core thoughts: Godard once said, "Cinema is Death", because the camera records someone in the process of dying. One take begins, one take ends, in between the subject has erroded, aged, moved towards its death. And of course, Noé's film begins with "Le temps détruit tout" - Time destroys everything. We're watching a film shot in single takes, with the story moving backwards and the narrative (as all narratives must do) moving forwards, towards its own ending, its own death, and the story's beginning, its birth. It's a fucking tragic film, absolutely devastating. I connect with it on so many levels - philosophically (fatalism, nihilism), thematically (violence, sexuality, masculinity), aesthetically (long-takes, incredible use of colour, and the sound design is probably the best since Eraserhead); the acting is tremendous, too - overlooked on a first watch, multiple revisits has taken real pleasure watching the relationship between three people - the lovers and their friend, with complexity added in that the friend is an ex-lover too. The conversation in the elevator, and then on the train, is subtly done and well-performed.
...dot com bold typeface rhetoric. You go clickety click and get your head split. 'The hell you look like on a message board Discussing whether or not the Brother is hardcore?
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Re: The movies that went all the way - reviews
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06/15/07 06:46 PM
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Some of them could be B-grade horror porn, whereas others are great movies that are just beyond social acceptability.
Although it's probably not what you had in mind, I envisioned "Seven Beauties" by the inimitable Lina Wertmuller. This film is, to say the least, disturbing, and could easily qualify as a sadomasochistic horror flic, were it not for the brilliant cast (led by the great Giancarlo Giannini) and the continous thread of humor and absurdity that are so characteristic of Italian cinema at its finest. The Italians excel at finding humanity in even the darkest situations, and "Pasqualino Settebellezze" personifies it.
Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu, E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu... E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
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Re: The movies that went all the way - reviews
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06/16/07 11:16 AM
06/16/07 11:16 AM
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The Last House On The Left (no stars) (1972) IMDB link: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0068833/A rotten apple in my basket, this is a huge disappointment. This is banned in alot of places, but I don't know why. Firstly this is a very tame movie. Most violence is not shown directly. And secondly, but more importantly, this was a goofy execution of what could have been a great movie. The plot is almost identical to the scenes at "The Home" in A Clockwork Orange. The music is terrible and is totally inappropriate for the emotions conveyed. Further, there is a lot of comedy in the movie that spoil the pace. Some think of this movie as a dark comedy, but I do not agree with them. LAST HOUSE ON THE LEFT is a case where its notoriety is more infamous than the actual film itself. Hell, Craven initially titled it SEX CRIME OF THE CENTURY. It was always exploitation-junk.
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Re: The movies that went all the way - reviews
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06/17/07 10:15 AM
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The Last House On The Left (no stars) (1972) IMDB link: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0068833/A rotten apple in my basket, this is a huge disappointment. This is banned in alot of places, but I don't know why. Firstly this is a very tame movie. Most violence is not shown directly. And secondly, but more importantly, this was a goofy execution of what could have been a great movie. The plot is almost identical to the scenes at "The Home" in A Clockwork Orange. The music is terrible and is totally inappropriate for the emotions conveyed. Further, there is a lot of comedy in the movie that spoil the pace. Some think of this movie as a dark comedy, but I do not agree with them. I agree with you, it was a huge disappointment and don't see what the big deal about it was. I gave it either zero or 1/2 a star
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Re: The movies that went all the way - reviews
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06/30/07 02:14 PM
06/30/07 02:14 PM
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Cutting Moments ** (1997) IMDB Link: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0159391/This is a series of 5 short movies, with lengths varying between 5 min to 25 min. I must say that I haven't watched short movies before and had no idea what to expect. All the movies deal with boredom, depression, banality and general pointlessness of things. I somehow relate to the themes very much. As far as gore is concerned, it is rather very minimal and powerful in the only scene where it is really graphic. This movie needs to be watched more for its subject treatment than for shock value. Recommended. EDIT: An FCM board member, wetdog, pointed out this to me: It's packaged on DVD with Crack Dog, Don't Nag Me, Bowl of Oatmeal and Principles of Karma, which are completely unrelated, made by different people.
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Re: The movies that went all the way - reviews
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07/19/07 02:38 PM
07/19/07 02:38 PM
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I love John Waters' movies  -- try Female Trouble (1974) next 
I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey!  lol Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin My DVDs | Facebook | Godfather Filming Locations
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