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Re: Movies You Just Watched Discussion
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06/28/07 01:27 AM
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I'm so glad you enjoyed it svsg (and based on my review)  Have you seen any of the other movies on my Top 10 Japanese list? 1) RASHOMON 2) JIGOKU 3) HARAKIRI 4) ONIBABA 5) LADY SNOWBLOOD 6) The LONE WOLF AND CUB series 7) THRONE OF BLOOD 8) YOJIMBO 9) SANJURO 10) SWORD OF DOOM Also, what does your list look like?
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Re: Movies You Just Watched Discussion
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06/28/07 08:11 AM
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Irish, sadly(or funnily) my list looks like this: 1)Rashomon 2)Onibaba  I am yet to watch any other japanese movies  I'll watch Jigoku and Harakiri next.
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Re: Movies You Just Watched Discussion
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06/28/07 02:32 PM
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THE LOWER DEPTHS  1/2 (First Viewing) In a slum flophouse, a collection of beggars and thieves bewail their lot in life, and Osugi, the landlady, fights with her sister, Okayo, over the man they both desire, the thief Sutekichi. 2 things really stood out to me in this Kurosawa film. The first was the opening scene, the bang of the drum, Kurosawa panning around the top of this hill while the shack where the residents live is in basically a pit. The first characters of the film come by and throw leaves into it with no regard for the people down there. That pretty much set the tone for the rest of the film. Secondly, watching this movie reminded me of Hitchcock's ROPE. Both ROPE and THE LOWER DEPTHS were able to accomplish difficult feats because most of their movies took place in 1 room. Actors would come in and out but most of the action was taking place in the same room, which is difficult to pull off without other sets/scenary but both men were wizards with a camera and it's not surprising for me to see that both gentlemen pulled it off beautifully.
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Re: Movies You Just Watched Discussion
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06/28/07 11:05 PM
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TOKYO STORY  (Second Viewing) An elderly couple journey to Tokyo to visit their children and are confronted by indifference, ingratitude and selfishness. When the parents are packed off to a resort by their impatient children, the film deepens into an unbearably moving meditation on mortality. Probably the most depressing film from the "Noriko Trilogy" (LATE SPRING, EARLY SUMMER and TOKYO STORY). What I love about these three films is the way the cast is able to stay intact over a 4 year span. The story works well as a study of the country life vs. the city life or the older generation vs. the younger generation (it works as both). What I find most disturbing about this film is the character of Noriko, portrayed by Setsuko Hara, cares the most about this couple and they're not even her birth parents. They're her in-laws. The kids are all shelfish and can't take a day or more off of work to entertain their folks while their in town. First of all, the parents live in the country and the trip to Tokyo is very grueling, particularly for an elderly couple. They nonetheless make the journey and are pawned off by their children to Noriko and anyone else who'll basically take them off of their hands. What's even more unfortunate is the fact that it takes the mothers funeral to bring them together as a family for a very brief moment. After which, and before they return to Tokyo, the kids are going through the mothers possessions, trying to get their hands on the items they want. A truly unfortunate story and I feel for the old man who is now left alone to take care of himself. It just makes me fortunate enough to have a better relationship with my parents than these characters did.
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Re: Movies You Just Watched Discussion
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06/29/07 09:42 AM
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Runaway Jury *
Entertaining, but predictable. The script follows the usual hollywood formulas with clever twists and turns, punchlines, patriotism, good vs evil etc etc. All the big-name actors act well in their respective roles, but ultimately waste their talent for an average movie. The one thing that bug the hell out of me about RUNAWAY JURY is how the anti-gun lobby are goodie-two shoes and the pro-gun lobby are the most evil scumbags. If I had scripted that book (which wasn't much in the first place) then I would have made it that both ideological special interest lobbies do everything off the book in trying to get the verdict that they desire, fuck the law. Its just the people that decide the outcome do it against the losers out of simple revenge. Still, its sad when for a generic movie, its the one time that former roommates Gene Hackman and Dusty Hoffman get to act together in a Hollywood flick.
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Re: Movies You Just Watched Discussion
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06/29/07 10:54 AM
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LATE SPRING  1/2 (First Viewing) Noriko is 27 years old and is still living with her father Somiya, a widower. Noriko just recovered from an illness she developed in the war, and now the important question pops up: when will Noriko start thinking about marriage? Everybody who is important in her life tries to talk her into it: her father, her aunt, a girlfriend. But Noriko doesn't want to get married, she seems extremely happy with her life. She wants to stay with her father to take care of him. After all, she knows best of his manners and peculiarities. But Noriko's aunt doesn't want to give up. She arranges a partner for her and thinks of a plan that will convince Noriko her father can be left alone. Even though this film was made first, I feel it's a combination of EARLY SUMMER and TOKYO STORY. Again, Setsuko Hara did a nice job as the main character Noriko, and another great story from Yasujiro Ozu. In EARLY SUMMER, the parents of Noriko are trying to convince her to get married as the father (the mother had already died) did in this film. And it's like TOKYO STORY because at the end, Noriko finally decides to get married, leaving her father all alone to care for himself. However, if memory serves me right, EARLY SUMMER differs in that Noriko doesn't get married at the end.
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Re: Movies You Just Watched Discussion
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06/29/07 04:33 PM
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Greenaway's Vertical Features Remake is self-reflexive to the point of seeming, to unknowing eyes, a convincing - and, no doubt to some, a rather dull - documentary on having to remake a film all about natural and man-made vertical objects which contradict otherwise serene and banal landscapes. Interested in notions of the grid, or the parallelogram which we have decided constitutes the film frame, Greenaway shoots various footage and reassembles it all to differently timed sequences, each becoming more and more complex and musically-bound as it goes on. A mockery of the rampant structuralism at the time, it also happens to be as haunting as it is intellectual, with Brian Eno's entrance music going into each remake, and the images themselves have a loneliness about them, much like the empty, "dead" frames in Dear Phone.
The Falls (again, Greenaway): on the one hand it might be best to view this in one sitting, so that all the interrelated fictions are appreciated best in all their intertextual density, but on the other, one would be forgiven for dividing it up, perhaps into hourly sittings, in order to take some sort of break - or indeed retreat - from the absolute absurd mass of information overload. Narrated mostly in voice-over, with translations of fictional languages spoken over footage of interviews, landscapes, and footage of people naming as many birds as possible. It's a fascinating and rich experience exploring lists in the form of dictionaries and directories, knowledge in the form of catalogues and encyclopaediae, ornithology, languages, and the form of the medium itself - it's constantly witty in its verbal rhetoric, and editing must have been an unimaginably difficult process in which Greenaway no doubt found great excitement.
I watched last night Hitchcock's Secret Agent and The Skin Game.
Secret Agent: As good as anything Hitchcock made before hitting Hollywood, an overlooked masterpiece with a lively romance in the form of a ménage à trois, a killer wit and memorable characterisation (helped by good performances), and possibly the best sound design in any of his films: in the church, in which a corpse plays an intense organ drone, a murder scene at the top of a mountain, with the distant, almost non-diegetic wailing of a dog (it's edited over from a different strand in the narrative), and the industrial, overwhelming chugs of a chocolate factory; not to mention another climax on a train, with all the momentum and thrill of Hitchcock's best works.
The Skin Game: Hitchcock turns away from murder suspense and into family drama stroke rather strange landowning hokum; it lacks both the experimental tendencies of previous films (it's two years after Blackmail) and the astonishing form he hit mid-thirties, but there are notable marks of interest even so, mostly in the wip-pans during otherwise theatrically-filmed conversation scenes, and the one standout sequence, the auction scene, the dialogue in which hardly flows, but the camera cranks up some sort of thrilling "who's going to get it" game of cat-and-mouse. Subject matter seems dull and almost laughable regarding the usual requirements of a dramatic feature-length narrative, but it shifts into a fascinating and ironic tragedy towards the end when the villain of the piece (brilliant performance from Edmund Gwenn) and his family are turned upon, and our sympathies move from wishing for his downfall to feeling some sort of deep sorrow for him.
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Re: Movies You Just Watched Discussion
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06/30/07 02:08 PM
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Runaway Jury *
Entertaining, but predictable. The script follows the usual hollywood formulas with clever twists and turns, punchlines, patriotism, good vs evil etc etc. All the big-name actors act well in their respective roles, but ultimately waste their talent for an average movie. John Grisham novels just don't adapt well. I did kind of like THE FIRM, but only because Gene Hackman stole the movie from scientology boy.
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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Re: Movies You Just Watched Discussion
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06/30/07 02:18 PM
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Saw Live Free or Die Hard last night. This is why I hate movie studios, they had to make this film PG-13! No blood, no cursing, no nothing! It is far from being a Die Hard film. How many snotty pre-teens know who John McClane is? I doubt many do. Even the franchise's catch phrase, "Yippy kay yay motherfucker" is cut down.
Some of the action scenes are neat, but are way over the top. I always say to my self, "Never see a PG-13 film." and I did it again. FOX should be ashamed of themselves, this is an R rated franchise. If you plan on seeing this, just rent the first three instead.
Verdict: C-
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Re: Movies You Just Watched Discussion
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06/30/07 02:24 PM
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Saw Live Free or Die Hard last night. This is why I hate movie studios, they had to make this film PG-13! No blood, no cursing, no nothing! It is far from being a Die Hard film. How many snotty pre-teens know who John McClane is? I doubt many do. Even the franchise's catch phrase, "Yippy kay yay motherfucker" is cut down.
Some of the action scenes are neat, but are way over the top. I always say to my self, "Never see a PG-13 film." and I did it again. FOX should be ashamed of themselves, this is an R rated franchise. If you plan on seeing this, just rent the first three instead.
Verdict: C- and I absolutely agree. Its decent, but nothing worth a damn. Its not a DIE HARD movie in spirit or even the same John McClane personality we saw in DIE HARD and DIE HARD WITH A VENGEANCE: That is, a charming asshole that you might like for awhile, but you wouldn't want to do anything with afterwards. The sort that runs his attitude off and gets him stuck at a crappy level. Plus, McClane has a dirty mouth. At least DIE HARD WITH A VENGEANCE had the good sense to keep that.
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Re: Movies You Just Watched Discussion
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06/30/07 02:26 PM
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Saw Live Free or Die Hard last night. This is why I hate movie studios, they had to make this film PG-13! No blood, no cursing, no nothing! It is far from being a Die Hard film. How many snotty pre-teens know who John McClane is? I doubt many do. Even the franchise's catch phrase, "Yippy kay yay motherfucker" is cut down.
Some of the action scenes are neat, but are way over the top. I always say to my self, "Never see a PG-13 film." and I did it again. FOX should be ashamed of themselves, this is an R rated franchise. If you plan on seeing this, just rent the first three instead.
Verdict: C- Plus, McClane has a dirty mouth. At least DIE HARD WITH A VENGEANCE had the good sense to keep that. And it had Sam Jackson. Motherfucker.
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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Re: Movies You Just Watched Discussion
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06/30/07 02:26 PM
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svsg, how did you feel about Shaun of the Dead?
Bogey, I haven't watched it yet. Is it good? I remember RRA reviewing it once. Dude, why you still listening to IMDB? Its a fucking retard zoo. If I have a problem with a certian board member, imagine a thousand of him and his mentalities at IMDB...with the stupidest shit they post seriously. As for HOT FUZZ, let me guess...not as funny as HOLLYWOODLAND, right? ;D Oh and SHAUN OF THE DEAD rocked, especially for Romero fans. SHAUN OF THE DEAD (2004) - **** HOT FUZZ (2007) - ****
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Re: Movies You Just Watched Discussion
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06/30/07 02:28 PM
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Saw Live Free or Die Hard last night. This is why I hate movie studios, they had to make this film PG-13! No blood, no cursing, no nothing! It is far from being a Die Hard film. How many snotty pre-teens know who John McClane is? I doubt many do. Even the franchise's catch phrase, "Yippy kay yay motherfucker" is cut down.
Some of the action scenes are neat, but are way over the top. I always say to my self, "Never see a PG-13 film." and I did it again. FOX should be ashamed of themselves, this is an R rated franchise. If you plan on seeing this, just rent the first three instead.
Verdict: C- Plus, McClane has a dirty mouth. At least DIE HARD WITH A VENGEANCE had the good sense to keep that. And it had Sam Jackson. Motherfucker. Oh yeah. I mean hell, that great scene in Harlem wouldn't fly in PG-13 land, but thats the point. Its like the utter hell for a white Irishman drunk in his middle-age 40s having to wear a sign that probably ensures a bullet to the skull.
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