This is all just too much.

LLC -

Just as I defend your right to display and enjoy a picture of a burning American flag, I have the same right to enjoy and display a picture of dead terrorists.

I mean after all, a person's right is a person's right. Right?

Come on people. If LLC wants his avatar let him have it, just don't give it the attention you are giving.

I agree, Bogey.

Hate is hate.

The Nazi's are fools. Additionally, they're just as confused as the people who hold pride in the American flag, because they think desecrating it will actually do something. Like I said earlier, I don't burn flags, and I don't plan to. I just don't see the point in desecrating something that doesn't even hold any real relevancy.



Imagine my confusion when you decided to bring it up here!



Well, (and I say this in all seriousness and respect) if I'm indifferent towards the flag, what represents my indifference more so than the image of a burning flag?

And a person's life is a person's life. Right?

Yet you totally avoided my question to you in regards to my having the same right to post a picture that I like as you do to post one that you like.

Do you deny that I have that right?

OK, I still don't understand. Maybe I'm dense but it seems to me that if you're indifferent to something it means you have no real interest in it. I just don't understand why you'd pick something that you have no interest in, one way or another, as the subject of your avatar.

Maybe I'm wrong, but our avatars represent a subject in which we have an interest (whether it be a movie star, a sports idol, etc.).

Well, you certainly have the right to post it. However, the two are incomparable. After all, the burning of the flag is protected in the constitution. Where, exactly, does the constitution commend murder?

Not to mention, we seem to be completely ignoring the preamble.

Of course you have the right to post that picture. No one is debating that. The only conflict is the enjoyment of the picture.

Then I've made my point.

How about a nice naked lady avatar?

My treat.

Again, you have the right to post it. The only conflict people have is the enjoyment of a pic of human carcassas. The right to post it and then the enjoyment of it are two different things.

Don't worry, I understand where you're coming from. It's not easy to comprehend my use of the image. It is, partly, I think, my strong dislike for rednecks--in otherwise, the stereotyped social mold that we believe to be patriotic flag-wavers. And, let's face it... Rednecks seem to be America personified.

I'm still confused by your choice of avatar but its not important. Like I said, I was just curious.

No, I don't think so. DA's last post pretty much says it best. We're not turned off by your right to post the picture. Just the fact that you find such vast enjoyment in it. It's kind of unnerving to think a man would actually wish dismay upon another man.

And again, your right to post it doesn't really have much to do with it. You could be posting the picture and include a caption like "The sad effects of war" or even something much more central like "Islamic Terrorists Lay Dead" and that'd be find, and you'd still be exercising your right. Just, the fact that you actually enjoy looking at it, that's a bit scary and unusual. And that has absolutely nothing to do with your own, personal, constitutional rights.

The conflict is within yourself.

It's a conflict because YOU don't agree with what someone else enjoys. And only you have the right to challenge it because it's within your civil rights.

But if you agree with the content of something that you enjoy, then others don't have that same right to challenge you.



Typical of those who are always quoting the constitution and their rights when they want to advocate their beliefs. But as soon as someone else, who you may not agree with, advocates their own beliefs under those same civil rights, they are wrong.

You've really helped me make my point here Don Andrew. Thanks so much!

Yeah, I understand where you're coming from, completely. Don't worry about it.

But no dislike for terrorists!

Those who cure you are going to kill you

Your civil rights have NOTHING to do with this. This is about another persons HUMAN RIGHTS. They're dead, and that's a shame that a few human lives had to be wasted like that, just so we can have a stupid, ignorant, bullshit war that is accomplishing absolutely nothing, and being used to distill fear upon both parties.

It just upsets me that you find pleasure in someone else's demise. It's not right.

I have more to say, but I've temporarily lost my train of thought.

Yes I read about that too Mig. They might want to blow you and your family up, but let's not forget that they're human beings, so we should still treat them kindly.

Point really made now!

You and Don Andrew are doing a great job on my behalf!

ThankS!

I know you're just kidding, but I'm about as far as terrorists are concerned, I wouldn't say I hate them. I don't like them either. It's very sad that someone would have to retort their own dislike for something into violence. That's my one problem with terrorists, and that's my one problem with any army, despite nationality.

Both the terrorists and counter-terrorist militaries are just causing one giant step backwards.

I'm done with this bullshit.

Thats some scary shit. Doctors, people who are supposed to be SAVING lives, are dedicated to TAKING lives.

Politics aside, these men are supposed to have dedicated themselves to helping their fellow man... in fact, they are hiding behind that pledge and have dedicated themselves to killing their fellow man. FUCK THEM AND THE CAMELS THEY RODE IN ON!

Hey Rednecks are human beings to LLC

I don't even think there is a point to be made here. At no point did we deny that you have the right to post that picture, and you know that. Your right to post the picture is not the issue, although you are attempting to make it the issue.

The issue at hand, and I know that you are an intelligent person so I know that you are very well aware of it, whether you admit it or not, is that you are finding pleasure in murder and violence, and that is very unhealthy, cruel, and unnecessary. You and I seldom agree, there is no doubt there. But I would never find pleasure in your dismay. And, it's safe to say you 100% disagree with Islamic terrorists, but I can't understand why you'd actually find pleasure in their deaths.

I can understand the media hinting that we should find pleasure in their deaths, but I can't understand anyone honestly believing that we should find this pleasure.

Let's not over-estimate them.

But, in all seriousness, I don't think I would get excited over a picture of a bunch of dead, bleeding rednecks.

Ahhh ahh ahhh! You don't have the right to talk like that now SC. They are human beings.