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Have rappers ruined the status of Scarface #363639
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Ive noticed alot of people taking shots at rappers who refer to Scarface...in a way the movie is more popular now then it ever was due to the exposure rappers have given it..but is that a good thing or a bad thing...any thoughts on the subject

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I'm probably the wrong guy to answer this because I'm not a fan of "hip-hop", but I think it's a bad thing.
In admitting how much the movie inspires them, they're implying that the rapper's lifesyle goes hand in hand with that of the drug dealer's.
I LOVE the movie and the gangster movie genre, as do all of you, but they don't move me to conduct my businesses like Tony Montana or Michael Corleone, for that matter.


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Re: Have rappers ruined the status of Scarface [Re: pizzaboy] #363687
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How could rap music ruin a personal experience?
For me Scarface meant a lot to me, and it meant
something to some rappers. That has nothing to
do with each other...


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Re: Have rappers ruined the status of Scarface [Re: Antihero] #363689
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SCARFACE is above any possible ruination. However, rappers can ruin the status of its smart and tasteful fans.

Re: Have rappers ruined the status of Scarface [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #363690
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As i wrote before, No Rappers can ruin the impression Scarface gave and gives me. I dont care about the "all Around" status. I´ts what you think, not what Diddy Piddy P Shawn, or whatever thinks.


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Whomever or whatever loves Scarface, no matter what walk of life they may come from, has absolutely no influence on my love for the movie Scarface, nor does their love for Scarface tarnish the status of the movie for me.

However what I do find disturbing is that many of these rappers feel that they can relate to Tony Montana and have taken to imply that being a drug lord and a criminal isn't bad as long as you acheive success somewhere down the line.

What bothers me is when I hear young people defending some of these rappers by saying "look at so and so the rapper, he owns his own record label, his own recording studio and has a mansion and he's only 22 years old. He's successful!"

Well anyone of us could aquire, or could have aquired those kinds of things early in life if we choose or had chosen to take the easy path and deal with drugs and lead a criminal life just like some of these rappers have done and just like Tony Montana did in the movie.

Those kinds of rappers do not impress me one bit, even if they are now legitimate. Because the only reason that they were able to get to become legitimate business men or music producers is because they aquired their money earlier in life by dealing drugs and commiting crimes. So they aquired all their money illegaly and only then were they able to parlay their ill gotten monies into legitimate enterprises.

That does not define success. Some of these rappers and characters like Tony Montana do NOT define the American dream, they just misrepresent it.



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It's not neccessarily the rappers that ruin the movie...but their misunderstanding of the story...Funny because even thought I loved the movie Tony Montana to me wasn't heroic in any of his actions, he shot his best friend and isolated the remainer of family he had.

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Originally Posted By: Don Cardi



Well anyone of us could aquire, or could have aquired those kinds of things early in life if we choose or had chosen to take the easy path and deal with drugs and lead a criminal life just like some of these rappers have done and just like Tony Montana did in the movie.



Where do you get theese informations from?. I personally has never heard, nor read of this. Have you mead theese rappers, or talked to them? What do you build theese obligations on?


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Re: Have rappers ruined the status of Scarface [Re: Antihero] #363739
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Originally Posted By: Antihero
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Well anyone of us could aquire, or could have aquired those kinds of things early in life if we choose or had chosen to take the easy path and deal with drugs and lead a criminal life just like some of these rappers have done and just like Tony Montana did in the movie.



Where do you get theese informations from?. I personally has never heard, nor read of this. Have you mead theese rappers, or talked to them? What do you build theese obligations on?



Do you watch the news? Do you read the papers? You can't be serious with that question.


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Yes i do. But i have never heard of such things. Its sounds to me like you belive anything you see in the news. Kinda sad, dont you think.

So your telling me that some rappers have reach their goals by selling drugs, course you´v seen it on the news, and read it in the papers... Now that sir, is indeed funny...


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Originally Posted By: Antihero
. Now that sir, is indeed funny...


Do I amuse you? Do I make you laugh?



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Five - ten years from now, they're gonna wish there was American Cosa Nostra. Five - ten years from now, they're gonna miss John Gotti.




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Now go home and get you´r fucking shine box!

Your diden´t really answear my quistion....


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Re: Have rappers ruined the status of Scarface [Re: Antihero] #363757
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Irv Gotti, Biggie Smalls. JayZ. All self admitted ex drug dealers.


we see Don Cardi throw Antihero to the ground and begin to stomp on him for telling Cardi to go home and get his shine box.


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Five - ten years from now, they're gonna wish there was American Cosa Nostra. Five - ten years from now, they're gonna miss John Gotti.




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OMG, i almost hear the sound of Donovans "Atlantis" in my ears...

Have you ever considered, that telling the press that you´v been a bad drug dealing punk, off the streets, migth just make you sell more records...

So.. wheres my Shine Box??


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Originally Posted By: Antihero


So.. wheres my Shine Box??


Look behind you, you'll find it where the sun don't shine.

Obviously you don't believe that these guys were drug dealers, and I do. So we'll have to leave it at that.


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So we will. So keep the shine box warm, till next time


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Originally Posted By: Antihero
So keep the shine box warm, till next time



Didn't you see Goodfellas? There ain't gonna be no next time.

I got a leg, I got an arm, I got a wing.

No next time!



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Five - ten years from now, they're gonna wish there was American Cosa Nostra. Five - ten years from now, they're gonna miss John Gotti.




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You really just want the last word, dont ya..
You surly does amuse me like a clown


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what your saying he's funny? Funny How?


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I dont think Rappers have ruined the status of scraface but enhanced it to a wider audiences.

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 Originally Posted By: Zaf-the-don
I dont think Rappers have ruined the status of scraface but enhanced it to a wider audiences.


You make a very good point. They've basically brought Scarface to cult classic status.



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I wouldn't give them ALL of the credit.

I saw SCARFACE long before I ever heard of P-Diddy or Jay-Z.


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 Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
I wouldn't give them ALL of the credit.

I saw SCARFACE long before I ever heard of P-Diddy or Jay-Z.


So did I. But the point is that the Rappers have played a large role in bringing the movie to another level as far as cult status goes. Don't you watch MTV Cribs man?



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"Yo homies,you know the rappers kept the Scarface name alive ya'll"



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i wouldn't go as far as saying that they kept scarface alive because it already was a popular movie. they may have helped make it that much more popular is all.


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Rappers have ruined everything if you ask me ;\)


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 Originally Posted By: NYC Goodfella
i wouldn't go as far as saying that they kept scarface alive because it already was a popular movie. they may have helped make it that much more popular is all.

I was messing around.Honestly how can rappers ruin a movie?(unless they star in on it)


The hero and the coward both feel the same thing, but the hero uses his fear, projects it onto his opponent, while the coward runs. It's the same thing, fear, but it's what you do with it that matters. Cus D'Amato
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It was popular before but became even more popular thanks to the rappers.

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yes, it most certainly did, would tony montana want him to look like a pimp? or a rapper? no! hes a tough guy, three words MONEY, POWER, RESPECT? well im pretty sure rappers dont have power, or respect, i mean look at biggie smallz or tupac, they are dead...tony montana wouldn't end up like that, and im pretty sure he wouldn't like rap...

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 Originally Posted By: CHRISTOPHER
i mean look at biggie smallz or tupac, they are dead...tony montana wouldn't end up like that, and im pretty sure he wouldn't like rap...

TOny Montana did end up like Biggie and Tupac...Shot to death!! \:p


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