Yep, serious. What about my original post don't you agree with?

Wasn't Tony a Cuban who hated Colombians?

Following your logic, where does that leave Colombians who embrace Scarface?

Tony hated mob guys not Colombians, the guy sosa supposedly was bolivian.

Most Colombians don't care about scarface one way or the other. You don't see alot of scarface shirts or anything over there.

Oh and the movie Colombiana which is coming out is a disgrace as it's supposedly based on Rosario Tijeras, which is a quality movie about a female assassin that came out a few years ago in Colombia and is loosely based on real events. Check it out on youtube.

the character Tony actually says "I don't like Colombians" to his right
hand man character.

When Omar sets up the buy around the corner from the diner they were working at.




If you got that wrong, pretty sure lot of what you wrote is based on false info.

I agree they are all drug dealers and some of them might have records to prove it.But none of these rappers out there made any real money selling drugs at least not enough to start a record company. New shoes and a mercedes and a little gold is not real money. I would say that all that talk about scarface and the mafia in there music is inspiring to be somebody they could never be.

you guys might find this thread of interest.
rap labels
Its about rap labels and their criminal links.

How so?

Yes Rappers have ruined Scarface. I saw a bio a flick on it and they interviewed a lot of the actors that said they didn't like all the negative impact it had on today's youth

There was actually a clip on youtube of Pacino actually thanking rappers for keeping scarface alive

He made the comment at a scarface anniversary. It was a red carpet interview

How have rappers ruined Scarface? How can one ruin a movie about a drug dealing, murderous, social path???

The character Scarface that the rappers so-call embrace was a Cuban not a Colombian. To say that Colombians don't like AA in general is a loaded statement. I'm sure there is a lot of truth to it as many people are racist against AA (although the imitate and look up to them in many areas) however there is no proof that Escobar was racist against AA it appears that his evil ass didn't like too much of anyone just look at the shit he did to his own people. But all in all I agree and add that it's stupid for anyone black or otherwise to embrace Escobar, Scarface etc they were fucking socio paths

On cribs the tv show every rapper always has a picture or a poster in their house referring to Scarface. I just got done finishing a Scarface mosaic that depicts the DVD cover with a beveled mirror in the middle. On the sides are Tony in his pose with his 22 Caliber gun. It will be on ebay in a week I'm just waiting for the 300 dollar frame to be finished. Then it will be ready. It took me 3 months to make it. It's so sick you got to check it out. My username on ebay is chinmusic80. I would love for someone that really appreciates the film to own it.
Thanks sorry to get off topic..

scarface is the single most overrated movie of all time....hands down

It wasn't that Tony didn't like Colombians, he was scared of them. He was scared of them because they had a lot to protect. Cocaine in it's purest form consists of resources that come mostly out of columbia, anything else added to it is just junk.. Tony didn't like Italians because he didn't want to pay them taxes or tribute or use them to help him clean his money. Tony was just a hungry little runt who needed to just be quiet and go away.

That Scarface Mosaic is done and is now on ebay available for purchase

Here is a picture without the 300.00 black shiny frame.. Enjoy

http://phoenix.backpage.com/MiscForSale/classifieds/EnlargeImage?oid=22764524&image=22764520

"Most Colombians don't care about scarface one way or the other"

I remember reading (or hearing) that the colombian acress Sofia Vergara was such a big fan of that movie that she named her son Manolo.

I don't know whether or not it is true, but she has awesome tits. It's just sad that in a couple of years they will be streetsweepers.

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I remember reading (or hearing) that the colombian acress Sofia Vergara was such a big fan of that movie that she named her son Manolo.

I don't know whether or not it is true, but she has awesome tits. It's just sad that in a couple of years they will be streetsweepers. [/quote]



That's is so funny lol.

Totally agree with that

Personally, sometimes I get the feel that a lot of kids today only "Like" scarface because it makes them look cool and look "gangster". But in a way it helped the movie out a lot. Because the hoods were the neighborhoods that were watching that movie more so than anyone at first. They just loved that rags to riches story. I'm sure it started a lot of crime too because I'm sure you had a lot of people who felt like they could be tony montana. But I don't think it was a bad thing. Now a days it is just because it's so outdated. Unless they use a scarface reference in real clever wordplay I'm just not interested. I am a huge fan of hip hop. And I'm pretty old too. But the lyricism(at least when I used to listen to it)seemed so poetic and the way that they would put their words together was just unbelievable at the time in my opinion.

And I agree scarface is overrated. Very overrated. It was one of al pacino's worst performances. He was not good at all. His accents changed throughout the movie lol. I personally enjoy the movie a lot but if I'm critiquing it as a movie critic, the movie was not that good at all. It's kind of like when you like some Adam sander movies, they're funny and may be one of your favorite movies but there's no way it will be any oscar conversation or anything close to that lol.

I'm probably the wrong guy to answer this because I'm not a fan of "hip-hop", but I think it's a bad thing.
In admitting how much the movie inspires them, they're implying that the rapper's lifesyle goes hand in hand with that of the drug dealer's.
I LOVE the movie and the gangster movie genre, as do all of you, but they don't move me to conduct my businesses like Tony Montana or Michael Corleone, for that matter.

LOL

You're a guy who goes by "Sexy Amanda"? Posting on a mafia board?

Okay then....

Although there is some racism in Latin American culture, it isn't as strong as the racism Italian-Americans have against blacks, generally speaking

Thats a generalization, of course, but most of "white" Cubans know that a good deal of the culture and some of the genes that white Cubans share often come from Africa..more Spain than Africa, unless one is Afro-Cuban, but there is a respect fro Africa in the Cuban culture that was never developed in the United States

That said, most Cuban-Americans don't like African-American leaders and politicians, because Cubans are a hardcore Republican constituency.

@Chisox

.There were and are legal, social, and economic hierarchy in general "Latin American" culture(s) based on things like what "race" your parents were, skin color, hair texture,etc.

The Spanish brought over their system of "classification" over with them to the Western Hemisphere and it was adopted in their former territories.

Look at some of the "castas" paintings. The residue from that system stills exists...some places stronger than others.


About 90% or more of the Africans in transatlantic slave trade ended up in latin america..so it isn't as though feelings towards and attitudes about Blacks are only formed WHEN Latinos come over here. The way they view their Black countrymen forms the basis for their general attitudes about Blacks here.

I think the guy who brought this up as a reason for Black people to not like this film, is offbase..but if we're going to discuss the topic separately..let's speak the truth.

Most of these rappers and such have ruined Scarface for me.

Wannabe mob movie fans lol, thankfully most of these people can't sit through Goodfellas or the likes of Donnie Brasco, for them to ruin those movies for me too.

brad Jordan is one of the best rappers to come out of texas