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Re: Movies You Just Watched Discussion
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APOCALYPSE NOW  (Second Viewing) I'm very surprised to see Marlon Brando didn't get an Oscar nomination for this film. As you may be aware, I rate AN as my #1 favorite. Eventhough the movie depicts Kurtz as an enigmatic larger than life character, the main character to me was Willard. Though I have nothing against Brando's performance, I didn't care much for it. My opinion is that Brando's only contribution is to look really huge(though even that was not intended by Coppola originally - he had a fit person playing that tole in his script) and sort of dangerous. You also have to factor in the fact that he was the bigger star compared to Martin Sheen, which added to the film's selling. Kurtz is a derivative of "Hearts of Darkness", so that role had to be played by some known person. However Coppola intelligently shifted the struggle and focus to Willard. I wasn't aware of your fascination with the movie. Have you seen Redux? I haven't but I've heard fans who love it and others who have hated it? Where do you stand? I want to buy the Dossier Special Edition DVD which contains both versions. Redux has about 40-50 extra minutes attached to it. It's worth watching just to see them even though they don't really add anything to the film. It's really just more screen time for Brando. More Brando? I'm there. Thanks for the heads up.
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Re: Movies You Just Watched Discussion
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APOCALYPSE NOW  (Second Viewing) I'm very surprised to see Marlon Brando didn't get an Oscar nomination for this film. As you may be aware, I rate AN as my #1 favorite. Eventhough the movie depicts Kurtz as an enigmatic larger than life character, the main character to me was Willard. Though I have nothing against Brando's performance, I didn't care much for it. My opinion is that Brando's only contribution is to look really huge(though even that was not intended by Coppola originally - he had a fit person playing that tole in his script) and sort of dangerous. You also have to factor in the fact that he was the bigger star compared to Martin Sheen, which added to the film's selling. Kurtz is a derivative of "Hearts of Darkness", so that role had to be played by some known person. However Coppola intelligently shifted the struggle and focus to Willard. I wasn't aware of your fascination with the movie. Have you seen Redux? I haven't but I've heard fans who love it and others who have hated it? Where do you stand? I want to buy the Dossier Special Edition DVD which contains both versions. Redux has about 40-50 extra minutes attached to it. It's worth watching just to see them even though they don't really add anything to the film. It's really just more screen time for Brando. As interesting and fascinating as the REDUX editing is, the theatrical edit flows so much better, and doesn't lose its narrative momentum as REDUX does. The French Plantation sequence is spectacular, but it hurts. But its recommended watching. APOCALYPSE NOW (1979) - ***** APOCALYPSE NOW REDUX (2002) - ****1/2 I like the French plantation scenes, but it didn't add anything to the movie itself. But like you said it's still worth a watch.
"When my time comes, tell me, will I stand up?" Paulie "Walnuts" Gaultiere - The Sopranos
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Re: Movies You Just Watched Discussion
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07/09/07 02:57 PM
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I like the French plantation scenes, but it didn't add anything to the movie itself. But like you said it's still worth a watch.
Since so many people think it didn't add anything to the movie, I think it is a failure on the part of Coppola to communicate. Especially because there is a big significance for the scene in his mind, as he explains it in the commentary. The whole movie has "going back in time" as one of its many themes. If you look at the beginning, you see choppers and gun fires etc. then we see bows and arrows and palm leaves for the boat etc. Then in Kurtz compund, we see even more primitive world. In essence, he wanted to show a gradual shift in time backwards as willard and his team slowly drift towards Kurtzian morality themselves. That is where the French Plantation scene is important. First of all the french are living in the past in vietnam. Some kind of time bubble that is not real. it is interesting to visit this time bubble in the backward journey through time. Secondly, we see the burial of "Mr Clean" with all state honors. This serves as a contrast for the way "chief" was treated upon his death later. Thirdly, the conversation between Roxanne and Willard is very profound. She reminds him that all that matters is that he is alive (her husband isn't, because of the war). At this point Willard has lost all purpose behind his mission. He is no different from Kurtz or Killgore. His journey has taken on its own course by then. Knowing these facets of the scene makes it very enjoyable for me each time I watch this scene. When I watch Redux, I really don't care that it is long and meandering. It is an experience and not a movie at that point. I compare it to the movie "Dead man" which is again about a man's jounery into himself. I want it to go on and on forever.
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Re: Movies You Just Watched Discussion
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07/09/07 07:37 PM
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BATTLE OF THE BULGE  1/2 (First Viewing) In the winter of 1944, the Allied Armies stand ready to invade Germany at the coming of a New Year. To prevent this occurrence, Hitler orders an all out offensive to re-take French territory and capture the major port city of Antwerp. "The Battle of the Bulge" shows this conflict from the perspective of an American intelligence officer as well as from a German Panzer Commander. What I am glad to see from some of these classic war films is they don't seem to glamorize the war. I think the Henry Fonda character was in this film, but overall, not as much as expected. An interesting perspective of the war from the point of view of tank warfare. I also like in this film the overture music to begin with and the intermission. It always reminds me of the old, BIG budget Hollywood films that would last about 4 hours.
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Re: Movies You Just Watched Discussion
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07/09/07 08:42 PM
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I like the French plantation scenes, but it didn't add anything to the movie itself. But like you said it's still worth a watch.
Since so many people think it didn't add anything to the movie, I think it is a failure on the part of Coppola to communicate. Especially because there is a big significance for the scene in his mind, as he explains it in the commentary. The whole movie has "going back in time" as one of its many themes. If you look at the beginning, you see choppers and gun fires etc. then we see bows and arrows and palm leaves for the boat etc. Then in Kurtz compund, we see even more primitive world. In essence, he wanted to show a gradual shift in time backwards as willard and his team slowly drift towards Kurtzian morality themselves. That is where the French Plantation scene is important. First of all the french are living in the past in vietnam. Some kind of time bubble that is not real. it is interesting to visit this time bubble in the backward journey through time. Secondly, we see the burial of "Mr Clean" with all state honors. This serves as a contrast for the way "chief" was treated upon his death later. Thirdly, the conversation between Roxanne and Willard is very profound. She reminds him that all that matters is that he is alive (her husband isn't, because of the war). At this point Willard has lost all purpose behind his mission. He is no different from Kurtz or Killgore. His journey has taken on its own course by then. Knowing these facets of the scene makes it very enjoyable for me each time I watch this scene. When I watch Redux, I really don't care that it is long and meandering. It is an experience and not a movie at that point. I compare it to the movie "Dead man" which is again about a man's jounery into himself. I want it to go on and on forever. You know, thats a very good point svsg. Good job.
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Re: Movies You Just Watched Discussion
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07/09/07 11:34 PM
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BATTLE OF THE BULGE  1/2 (First Viewing) In the winter of 1944, the Allied Armies stand ready to invade Germany at the coming of a New Year. To prevent this occurrence, Hitler orders an all out offensive to re-take French territory and capture the major port city of Antwerp. "The Battle of the Bulge" shows this conflict from the perspective of an American intelligence officer as well as from a German Panzer Commander. What I am glad to see from some of these classic war films is they don't seem to glamorize the war. I think the Henry Fonda character was in this film, but overall, not as much as expected. An interesting perspective of the war from the point of view of tank warfare. I also like in this film the overture music to begin with and the intermission. It always reminds me of the old, BIG budget Hollywood films that would last about 4 hours. I saw that a few weeks ago, and I agree it's a great film.
"When my time comes, tell me, will I stand up?" Paulie "Walnuts" Gaultiere - The Sopranos
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Re: Movies You Just Watched Discussion
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07/10/07 02:05 PM
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Knocked Up Direct by Judd Apatow
This might have been the funniest film I have seen in a long time! The film is about a 20 something, chubby, stoner named Ben (Seth Rogan) who knocks up a very sexy TV Executive named Alison (Katherine Heigle)....who was drunk when it happened.
The ensemble cast was hilarious especially Paul Rudd (Pete) and Jonah Hill (Jonah). Ben's stoner buddies are hilarious.
Back to the film. Alison is very unhappy that she is stuck with Ben...because he has no money and when he has it he spends it on pot. The only money he makes is off developing a porn site with his stoner friends. However the porn site turns out to be nothing more than a Mr.Skin knockoff.
The best scene in the film is when Ben and Pete go to Vegas to see Circus Soleil....on shrooms. Eventually Alison and Ben resolve thier differences (Such as Alison not liking doggy style sex) and learn to deal with each other. The birth scene was surprisingly graphic, many people were turning away during that scene. The film ends on a happy note which seemed appropriate.
If you liked The Forty Year Old Virgin or Anchorman then this film is for you.
Verdict: A
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Re: Movies You Just Watched Discussion
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07/10/07 02:13 PM
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Alison- Why don't you go FUCK your FUCKING Bong? Ben- I will! I'll do it doggy style, too! For once!
"When my time comes, tell me, will I stand up?" Paulie "Walnuts" Gaultiere - The Sopranos
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Re: Movies You Just Watched Discussion
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07/10/07 02:20 PM
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You're like Babe Ruth's gay brother...Gabe Ruth.
"When my time comes, tell me, will I stand up?" Paulie "Walnuts" Gaultiere - The Sopranos
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Re: Movies You Just Watched Discussion
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07/10/07 03:29 PM
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I'm gonna go down Canal Sreet this weekend and try to get a bootleg.
I can't wait for the dvd. You can watch it on your computer via tvlinks.com in the movie section. Pretty good quality
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Re: Movies You Just Watched Discussion
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07/10/07 08:40 PM
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Yeah, that was a magic era for PIXAR. Too bad they've slipped on their last two films.
As much as I liked TOY STORY, I prefer the sequel.
My favorite PIXAR? probably THE INCREDIBLES. No love for Ratatouille? Seems like they recovered for the time being from the uneven Cars. It's arguably Brad Bird's & Pixar's best yet and that means one of cinema's finest, period - animation, live action, or documentary. I personally prefer The Incredibles, but Ratatouille is slightly behind. After more viewings, who knows.
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