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Re: 2007 Fantasy Baseball (Yahoo)
[Re: J Geoff]
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07/22/07 05:36 PM
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Note: TM hasn't been active in either game since Thursday -- I hope everything's okay with him. I just noticed this today in BBC. BL then mentioned that he hasn't activated any of the players from their recent trade. In the spirit of fairness, and since he has no other option at 2B, and since he's 6 games back in that position, I've put Kelly Johnson in his active lineup, effective tomorrow. I will not, however, do anything with his new SPs as I don't want to be responsible for that.
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Re: 2007 Fantasy Baseball (Yahoo)
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Shields: -38 points.  Like Shields was gonna win against NYY? 10 ERs out of the 21 total the Yanks pounded onto Tampa!  (Watch, now we'll get swept by the freakin' Royals...  )
I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey! lol Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin My DVDs | Facebook | Godfather Filming Locations
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Re: 2007 Fantasy Baseball (Yahoo)
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07/23/07 12:09 AM
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PS - But look on the bright side -- your Sheilds helped me pass 100 pts for the day! That brings me a little closer to you, and a more competitive/fun game for both of us! 
I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey! lol Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin My DVDs | Facebook | Godfather Filming Locations
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Re: 2007 Fantasy Baseball (Yahoo)
[Re: Just Lou]
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07/23/07 12:19 AM
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That's all you got to shoot for right now, unless you think you can gain 520 pts on Douchebag in 2 months... (How the fuck did that even happen??) Edit: Then again, I did gain 79 pts on him tonight alone, so I guess anything's possible. But obviously his All-Star team is a bit tougher to gain on during the long haul.....
Last edited by J Geoff; 07/23/07 12:33 AM. Reason: P.S.
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Re: 2007 Fantasy Baseball (Yahoo)
[Re: J Geoff]
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07/23/07 12:28 AM
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Son 7/23 (official)
DB 20 5371 Pujols (11) half the team (that's more like it :))
JL 36 4853 Shields (-38) vs NYY? Wipes out Halladay (40)
JG^ 101 4782 Shields helped out A-Rod (11), Matsui (13); Uggla (13)
TM 36 4778 Manny (14); Freakin' Peavy (-4); You okay?
DM 48 4594 Isringhausen (17) in 2 IP* :/ Queen Felix (-9)
BL 38 4514 Posada (6) still has Hart (8)
DA 29 4269 Rollins (14), Braun (9) about it
FC 32 3909 Zito (-17) wipse out Abreu (13), still 46 offense
AP 52 3832 Cano (14) still benched. Victorino (10)
*We really need to re-examine the pitching stat modifiers next year...
Last edited by J Geoff; 07/23/07 11:51 AM.
I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey! lol Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin My DVDs | Facebook | Godfather Filming Locations
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Re: 2007 Fantasy Baseball (Yahoo)
[Re: J Geoff]
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07/23/07 12:38 AM
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*We really need to re-examine the pitching stat modifiers next year... Do you mean for RP's? Correct me if I'm wrong. If that's what you meant, then I disagree because relievers have to be looked at differently. They don't usually score as many points, but they have the potential to destroy you on any given day. A hitter won't usually have more than -1... like maybe an 0/4 with a GIDP. Starters can hurt you, but because they pitch so many innings they make it up in innings pitched. Relief pitching is just plain frustrating because they can score 10 points in one inning pitched with 3 strikeouts (how often does that happen), or they can give up 5 runs and kill you for who knows how many negative points. In other words... [Whine alert] I hate RP's![/Whine alert]
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Re: 2007 Fantasy Baseball (Yahoo)
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07/23/07 12:46 AM
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Well, an examination during the off-season couldn't hurt. To see if those extremes equal out in the end, in comparison to starters... that's all...
I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey! lol Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin My DVDs | Facebook | Godfather Filming Locations
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Re: 2007 Fantasy Baseball (Yahoo)
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07/23/07 12:55 AM
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But let's quickly look at Isringhausen...
2IP 4K 0H 0BB = 17 pts ... and gets the win because the offense came through.
Let's look at 2 of DM's other RP's...
Capps goes 1IP with 1K = 4 pts (his offense didn't come thru)
Pena goes 1IP with 1K = 5 pts (he "held" the game)
Combined, that's 2IP (like Isring), 2K (as opposed to 4) - no other hits or walks. So combined they're 9 points. Isring got 17 pts. For the same amount of work, but 2 extra K's. His "Win" came from the offense, not him personally. That's a lot of extra points.
I've always had a problem with relievers getting Wins for no reason except that they just happened to be at the right place at the right time. I always wondered why hitters couldn't get the Win -- walk-off homer wins the game? The hitter should get the win! But I guess that's baseball. A starter can pitch 9 innings of 1-hit ball and still lose. But in that case, they (as you said) have the innings behind them. For RPs, the numbers are more extreme because they don't.
If I ever get that much time (doubtful), I'd like to analyze innings pitched and stat results of SPs and RPs to see if they're close or not....
I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey! lol Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin My DVDs | Facebook | Godfather Filming Locations
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Re: 2007 Fantasy Baseball (Yahoo)
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07/23/07 01:09 AM
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That's all you got to shoot for right now, unless you think you can gain 520 pts on Douchebag in 2 months... (How the fuck did that even happen??) Simple. DB made some great trades. I made some not so great trades. I also had a terrible draft.
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Re: 2007 Fantasy Baseball (Yahoo)
[Re: Just Lou]
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07/23/07 02:16 AM
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Certainly you're not whining, right?? That wouldn't be the MOAAFS way  We all play by the same rules. You're still #2. At least for the next few weeks before I pass you.......
I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey! lol Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin My DVDs | Facebook | Godfather Filming Locations
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Re: 2007 Fantasy Baseball (Yahoo)
[Re: Just Lou]
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07/23/07 02:38 AM
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And the difference being........ you're gonna blame on the draft, right?
I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey! lol Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin My DVDs | Facebook | Godfather Filming Locations
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Re: 2007 Fantasy Baseball (Yahoo)
[Re: Just Lou]
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07/23/07 02:48 AM
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Please - my pick-ups from free-agency have helped me more than anything... I was what, 7th pick? And I literally was like, "great, I get stuck with A-Rod" -- no kidding! Okay, so he worked out. But Penny? Free agent. Wang? Free agent (twice!). Buehrle (!), free agent. Francis, Gregg, Guthrie, Okajima (I think), Saito (I think).... free agents. (But of course, *when* to use them is my problem - cuz "favorable matchups" don't seem to make any difference apparently... )
I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey! lol Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin My DVDs | Facebook | Godfather Filming Locations
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Re: 2007 Fantasy Baseball (Yahoo)
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07/23/07 02:54 AM
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Well, let's hope that you don't do the same in football then...
I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey! lol Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin My DVDs | Facebook | Godfather Filming Locations
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Re: 2007 Fantasy Baseball (Yahoo)
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07/23/07 02:59 AM
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I just have to mention... 977 posts in this thread, vs 11047 views! 
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Re: 2007 Fantasy Baseball (Yahoo)
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07/23/07 03:30 AM
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I'm talking about HERE, on the BB. Hell, I daily have 10-12 "research" pages loaded, and they certainly don't seem to help much apparently... (I think Firefox users have some advantage in this game, tho...! )
I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey! lol Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin My DVDs | Facebook | Godfather Filming Locations
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Re: 2007 Fantasy Baseball (Yahoo)
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07/23/07 04:49 PM
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Hell, I daily have 10-12 "research" pages loaded, . . . they certainly don't seem to help much apparently... Darn that JG... Giving us an opening like that, without letting us make our own jokes.
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Re: 2007 Fantasy Baseball (Yahoo)
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07/24/07 01:34 AM
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[Whine Alert] Speaking of offense scoring runs for relievers and not starters... did Aaron Harang really pitch 10 innings today and still not get the win? If I knew better I would have thought Harang was pitching for my Giants. Grrrr.... Here's to good supporting offense's  Here's to the offense's who support my pitchers.   [/Whine Alert]
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Re: 2007 Fantasy Baseball (Yahoo)
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Congrats on your 100 pts tonight, btw! As opposed to my pathetic 12... see, it all evens out... and never in *my* favor...
I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey! lol Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin My DVDs | Facebook | Godfather Filming Locations
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Re: 2007 Fantasy Baseball (Yahoo)
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Mon 7/23 (official)
DB 29 5400 Johan (-13) fucks everyone in fantasy; Rocket (19)
JL 13 4866 Benched Polanco (6), otherwise just offense (13)
JG 12 4794 Shouldn't have taken Buehrle (-18) vs DET :/
TM 10 4788 Line "on the" brink (-24); Benched Dye (9)
BL^ 99 4613 Harang (31), Smoltz (20); Benched Cain (-12)? ;)
DM 13 4607 Benched Crapuano (22)
DA 48 4317 Morneau (13), Hawpe (10) lead way
FC 39 3948 Piazza (11) tried to eat that Sosa (12) up for breakfast
AP 36 3868 Grand display from Granderson (15); Hudson (10) benched
Last edited by J Geoff; 07/24/07 12:17 PM.
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Re: 2007 Fantasy Baseball (Yahoo)
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(...) They (relievers) can pitch one inning and get a win. On the other hand, if a starter doesn't go a full five innings minimum, he isn't eligible for the win. That doesn't make any sense to me.
As far as fantasy points go, I wouldn't even know where to begin to analyze SP vs. RP points etc... My head hurts just thinking about where to start. the first thing in my opinion, that I've already said a few times, is start thinking about not charging pitchers with a loss. if they do a poor job, the ER + H + BB will tell you. why to kick the dead dog one more time?
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Re: 2007 Fantasy Baseball (Yahoo)
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07/25/07 03:00 AM
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Tue 7/24 (official)
DB 84 5484 Zambrano (18), Chipper (13) not Dunn (10)
JL 55 4921 Nashek (-12), Casilla (-5) said no to Main (24), Thome (18)
JG 70 4864 Uggla (13)... a weak Wang (7) tonight
TM 25 4813 Benched Dice-K (26) & Gallardo (18) & VWells (12)
DM^ 76 4683 Balls on him to play JVazquez (26) vs DET
BL 24 4637 Escobar (-1) no Angel; benched Sabathia (15) (I woulda)
DA 37 4354 Bonderman (-5) shmonderman; Jenks (12)
FC 23 3971 Wickman (-11) erases Morris (3), Bell (5)
AP 59 3927 Moylan (13), Rowand (12 - benched), Granderson (10)
Last edited by J Geoff; 07/25/07 11:48 AM.
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