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Re: 2007 Baseball Challenge - ESPN Salary Cap Game [Re: J Geoff] #417902
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I was going to say "Especially with JG on top...", but I thought it'd be mean. \:p ;\)

Re: 2007 Baseball Challenge - ESPN Salary Cap Game [Re: J Geoff] #417934
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 Originally Posted By: J Geoff
 Originally Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
Even with JG on top, I am not happy. \:\/

I hear that way too often... \:\( \:\/





Re: 2007 Baseball Challenge - ESPN Salary Cap Game [Re: klydon1] #417939
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 Originally Posted By: klydon1
 Originally Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
To lose 20 games in a season Klydon?


Yes, indeed.

Here's another with a hint...All of these have something in common, but it is not a common birth place although birth place is relevant. They are Rafael Palmeiro, Luis Aparicio, Larry Walker, Bobby Thomson, Pete Rose, Vinny Castilla, Andruw Jones, Roberto Clemente, Larry Walker, Ichiro Suzuki and Julio Franco.

Perhaps after next year Aparicio may no longer have the common trait, but a present SF Giant could join the list then.


Another clue...If I were to put them in an order relative to the common trait, Pete Rose would be first, followed by Palmeiro and then Clemente.

Re: 2007 Baseball Challenge - ESPN Salary Cap Game [Re: klydon1] #417940
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It has to do with all of them being born outside the United States and I'm assuming Gold Gloves but I can't put it together.


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Re: 2007 Baseball Challenge - ESPN Salary Cap Game [Re: DonMichaelCorleone] #417942
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That's what I caught on to, but Pete Rose was born in Cincinnati, right? So how can that work? But all the others are from outside the U.S.

And for Gold Gloves, that was also the trait I was finding a connection with - but Pete Rose won 2, Palmeiro won 3, and Clemente won 12...so that's not in order.

Klydon, I feel like a fool - I've got 10 Wikipedia windows open right now. \:p

Re: 2007 Baseball Challenge - ESPN Salary Cap Game [Re: ginaitaliangirl] #417943
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Fine, I will just end this now.

They all batted over .600 against Left Handed pitchers with more than 8 letters in their name, in the month of June of an odd numbered year while playing for a team that was in the MLB for less than 43 years.

Ummm, something that could require just a little thought next time would be nice Klydon.


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Re: 2007 Baseball Challenge - ESPN Salary Cap Game [Re: DonMichaelCorleone] #417944
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Your first line did trick me - I thought you knew already and were playing along.

Re: 2007 Baseball Challenge - ESPN Salary Cap Game [Re: ginaitaliangirl] #417946
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 Originally Posted By: ginaitaliangirl
That's what I caught on to, but Pete Rose was born in Cincinnati, right? So how can that work? But all the others are from outside the U.S.

And for Gold Gloves, that was also the trait I was finding a connection with - but Pete Rose won 2, Palmeiro won 3, and Clemente won 12...so that's not in order.

Klydon, I feel like a fool - I've got 10 Wikipedia windows open right now. \:p


You guys are good. You're on the right track about birth place, but it's not about fielding. Omar Vizquel is the guy, who can knock Aparicio off the list after next season, but Vizquel can not knock any other player off the list. Some day Vladimir Guerrerro can knock Julio Franco off the list. other persons, who presently shares the common thing with the group is Heep Seop Choi and Edgar Rentereia.

Re: 2007 Baseball Challenge - ESPN Salary Cap Game [Re: DonMichaelCorleone] #417947
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 Originally Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
Fine, I will just end this now.

They all batted over .600 against Left Handed pitchers with more than 8 letters in their name, in the month of June of an odd numbered year while playing for a team that was in the MLB for less than 43 years.

Ummm, something that could require just a little thought next time would be nice Klydon.


Is there anything uncommon about their birth places?

Re: 2007 Baseball Challenge - ESPN Salary Cap Game [Re: klydon1] #417948
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Klydon, it has to be games played then?


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Re: 2007 Baseball Challenge - ESPN Salary Cap Game [Re: DonMichaelCorleone] #417954
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 Originally Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
Klydon, it has to be games played then?


Ooooooh...I didn't think of games played, but you're zooming in on the right statistic. You're close. There are pretty much 2 prongs to the common thing. You were close to one when you were noticing the birthplaces. The second has something to do with achievements over time. In fact, I'd have given you games played as a common feature, but I would have had to remove Vinny Castilla, and substituted Aurelio Rodriguez. When you put the 2 prongs together, you might get the commonality.

Re: 2007 Baseball Challenge - ESPN Salary Cap Game [Re: klydon1] #417955
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Does the stat have to do with games played outside the U.S.?


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Re: 2007 Baseball Challenge - ESPN Salary Cap Game [Re: Don Sicilia] #417990
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 Code:
 
DB  521  MIL () 
JL  427  DET () 
JG  421  MIL () 
KL  402  DET () 
BL  393  LAD () 
GG  382  DET () 
TM  370  NYY (20)+()  (ironically missed the D/H)


TAM@NYY D/H
 Code:
TAM: Hammel     (1-0, 6.11 ERA) &  Howell  (1-3, 6.62 ERA)  @
NYY: Igawa      (2-2, 6.97 ERA) &  DeSalvo (1-3, 5.87 ERA)
 
MIL: Bush       (8-7, 4.84 ERA) vs SFO  
DET: Verlander (11-3, 3.26 ERA) vs KAN
LAD: Penny     (11-1, 2.33 ERA) vs NYM

D/H Lineups
 Code:
       DB       JG        JL           

C   (VMart)  (McCann)   Posada  
1B   Pena       "         "     
2B   Upton    GuyTy     Upton    
3B   A-Rod      "         "   
SS   Jeter      "         "    
LF   Matsui     "       Crawford   
CF   DYoung     "         "   
RF   Abreu      "         "    
DH  (Sheff)   Damon       "    
PS  (MIL)     (MIL)     (DET)   


Who We'd Like to Do Especially Well...
DB - (V-Mart), BJ, (Sheffield)
JG - (McCann), Ty, Matsui, Damon
JL - Posada, BJ, Crawford, (DET)
KL - Everyone else
BL - Everyone else
GG - Everyone else
TM - Everyone else


Last edited by J Geoff; 07/21/07 05:07 PM.


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Re: 2007 Baseball Challenge - ESPN Salary Cap Game [Re: DonMichaelCorleone] #418042
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 Originally Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
Does the stat have to do with games played outside the U.S.?


No. It has something to do with a common statistic other than games played. It's an offensive statistic (of which Pete Rose is first. There are other players between Rose and Palmeiro as far as the offensive statistic is concerned, but they don't meet the second prong of the common feature, which Palmeiro does.)

Re: 2007 Baseball Challenge - ESPN Salary Cap Game [Re: klydon1] #418043
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If Pete Rose is first then its hits?


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Re: 2007 Baseball Challenge - ESPN Salary Cap Game [Re: DonMichaelCorleone] #418177
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 Originally Posted By: DonMichaelCorleone
If Pete Rose is first then its hits?


Yes. It's hits. The second prong has to do with birth places. The answer is below.

Warning, Spoiler:
All of these players are the leader in career hits among all players born in their home country. Rose = USA; Paleiro= Cuba; Aparicio = Venezuela; Franco = Dominican Republic; Ichiro = Japan, etc.

Re: 2007 Baseball Challenge - ESPN Salary Cap Game [Re: J Geoff] #418212
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 Quote:
TAM@NYY D/H
I don't like this game.

Good trivia, KL. What a great question that one was.

Sat 7/21 (official)
 Code:
 
 DB  521  MIL (-3) 79  600
 JL  427  DET (09) 81  508
 JG  421  MIL (-3) 80  501
 KL  402  DET (09) 47  449
^TM  370  NYY (30) 76  446
 BL  393  LAD (15) 50  443
 GG  382  DET (09) 34  416  Game sucks.  May not play next year.

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Re: 2007 Baseball Challenge - ESPN Salary Cap Game [Re: ginaitaliangirl] #418300
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 Code:
 
DB  600 SDG (-13) 35  635  
JG^ 501 SDG (-13) 43  544  
JL  508 SDG (-13) 25  533  
TM^ 446 NYY  (18) 72  518  
BL^ 443 TOR  (31) 68  511  
KL  449 SDG (-13) 19  468  
GG  416 SDG (-13) 14  430  

SDG: Peavy (9-4, 2.30 ERA) vs PHI
NYY: Pettitte (5-6, 4.10 ERA) vs TAM
TOR: Halladay (10-4, 4.46 ERA) vs SEA

TM's lineup hasn't changed since Thursday.

Last edited by Don Sicilia; 07/23/07 10:42 AM. Reason: Official Scores


I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey! tongue lol

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Re: 2007 Baseball Challenge - ESPN Salary Cap Game [Re: J Geoff] #418330
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 Originally Posted By: J Geoff
TM's lineup hasn't changed since Thursday.


Same in the Yahoo league. I hope he's okay

EDIT: Since we traded in the Yahoo league he hasn't put a 2B in his lineup or used any of the two pitchers I traded to him. \:\/

Last edited by Blibbleblabble; 07/22/07 04:08 PM.

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Re: 2007 Baseball Challenge - ESPN Salary Cap Game [Re: Blibbleblabble] #418339
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Okay, thanks. I posted in the other thread how I made his 2B position active. I hope he's okay!



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Re: 2007 Baseball Challenge - ESPN Salary Cap Game [Re: J Geoff] #418426
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ooh you thought I was dead???

just a little trip in the last weekend of my vacation!


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Re: 2007 Baseball Challenge - ESPN Salary Cap Game [Re: Tony Mosrite] #418431
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Not necessarily dead... just not used to people disappearing w/o warning, that's all... Glad you're alive and well. ;\)

Too bad I didn't notice yesterday, cuz you'd've gotten a HR from your benched 2B \:p




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Re: 2007 Baseball Challenge - ESPN Salary Cap Game [Re: J Geoff] #418438
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yeah but thanks anyway.

my pitchers did so well while I was away, I guess I'd give up 2B if I knew they would keep it up.


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Re: 2007 Baseball Challenge - ESPN Salary Cap Game [Re: J Geoff] #418442
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Mon 7/23 (official)
 Code:
 
DB  635  MIN (04) 50  685  
JG  544  MIN (04) 34  578  
BL^ 511  ATL (25) 67  578  It's a Blibble-Battle now!
JL  533  MIN (04) 41  574  
TM  518  MIN (04) 40  558  
KL  468  SDG (-3) 14  482  
GG  430  MIN (04) 35  465  

MIN: Santana (11-7, 2.65 ERA) @ TOR (Curse of Pork™) < YUP! \:\/
ATL: Smoltz (9-5, 2.88 ERA) vs SFO
SDG: Maddux (7-7, 4.17 ERA) @ COL (DNP apparently)

Last edited by Don Sicilia; 07/24/07 10:36 AM. Reason: Official Scores


I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey! tongue lol

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Re: 2007 Baseball Challenge - ESPN Salary Cap Game [Re: J Geoff] #418626
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TRIVIA:

When Frank Thomas recetly homered to become the latest member of the 500 Homerun club, he became the largest member in this fraternity at 6'5'' and 257 lbs. The smallest meber of the 500 HR Club is the shortest at 5'9" as well as the lightest at 170 lbs. Who is he?

Warning, Spoiler:
Mel Ott


BONUS: What do these present and former MLB players have in common? They are Rod Carew, Gorman Thomas, Dave Kingman and Kevin Youkilis.

There are some others too. Kingman and Thomas led their respective leagues in homers in the same season, but that has nothing to do with the common trait although it marked the only year in baseball history that BOTH leagues were led by players with this thing in common. A prior Hall of Fame player with this thing in common had led the AL in homers.

Thomas and Kingman had this common thing all their lives while Carew acquired it, I believe, as an adult. It really has nothing to do with performance on the field, but it has caused a major leaguer with the common trait to miss a ball game late in the season. This guy is now a Met and will likely miss another game this season.

This characteristic has nothing, or perhaps very little, to do with birth place.

Warning, Spoiler:
You didn't really think I'd give you the answer to this one so soon. ;\)

Re: 2007 Baseball Challenge - ESPN Salary Cap Game [Re: J Geoff] #418764
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Tues 7/24 (official)
 Code:
 
DB  685  NYM (20)      65  750  Thome (18) his homey
JG  578  SDG (21)      60  638  
BL  578  LAA (03)      44  622  Thome & Uggla (13)
JL  574  DET (03)+(-9) 36  610  DET not adding up, will see tomorrow
TM  558  DET (03)+(-9) 28  586  
GG  465  SEA (15)+(01) 71  536  SEA not adding up, either. Fuzzy math? ;)
KL  482  CHC (20)      50  535  


DET/CHW and TEX/SEA Doubleheaders today...
NYM: Maine (10-5, 3.07 ERA) vs. PIT
SDG: Young (9-3, 1.85 ERA) @ COL
LAA: Escobar (11-3, 2.85 ERA) vs. OAK
DET: Bonderman (10-1, 3.53 ERA) and Vasquez (0-1, 20.25 ERA) @ CHW
CHC: Zambrano (12-7, 3.69 ERA) @ STL
SEA: Feierabend (1-3, 9.31 ERA) and Washburn (8-7, 4.02 ERA) @ TEX

Last edited by Don Sicilia; 07/25/07 09:29 AM. Reason: Official Scores
Re: 2007 Baseball Challenge - ESPN Salary Cap Game [Re: J Geoff] #418771
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Doubleheader lineups
 Code:
       DB       JG        JL        TM       GG       

C    (RMart)  Johima    (VMart)   Pudge       "
1B   Teix     Konerko   Teix      Casey    Konerko
2B   Polanco    "          "        "         "
3B   Fields   Beltre       "      (ARod)   Beltre
SS   Guillen  Young     Guillen     "         "
LF   Monroe     "       Ibanez    (MRam)   Ibanez
CF   Ichiro     "       Grands    Ichiro      "
RF   Maggs      "          "        "         "
DH   Thome    Sheff        "        "      Thome
PS  (NYM)     (SDG)       DET      DET      SEA


In addition, BL and KL each have a couple of players playing in the doubleheaders.


Last edited by Don Sicilia; 07/24/07 11:12 AM.
Re: 2007 Baseball Challenge - ESPN Salary Cap Game [Re: klydon1] #418780
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 Originally Posted By: klydon1
BONUS: What do these present and former MLB players have in common? They are Rod Carew, Gorman Thomas, Dave Kingman and Kevin Youkilis.


I think I finally got one! \:D

Were each of these players Jewish??

I am almost embarrassed to say how I knew this: from Adam Sandler's "Hannukah Song."

Here's the line:

 Code:
O.J. Simpson - not a Jew.
But guess who is? Hall of famer Rod Carew -- he converted
We got Ann Landers and her sister Dear Abby.
Harrison Ford's a quarter Jewish -- not too shabby


Your clue about the current Met gave me another hint - the media always mentions Shawn Green and his missing of games due to Jewish holidays.

Re: 2007 Baseball Challenge - ESPN Salary Cap Game [Re: Don Sicilia] #418896
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I got accepted into both business schools for which I applied! \:D

Now comes the hard part: picking between the schools.

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Re: 2007 Baseball Challenge - ESPN Salary Cap Game [Re: Don Sicilia] #418897
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Congratulations!

Hint: Pick the cheaper one. \:D

Will you have to move?



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