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Re: Questions from Newbies
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08/06/07 10:18 AM
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Does anyone have an answer for this one? The same filming location was used in both movies. Just Lou had visited the site a few years back and posted some pretty good pix of "the compound" (actually two houses with a fake wall built for the movies).
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Re: Questions from Newbies
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08/06/07 03:22 PM
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Watching GF on Bravo tonight, the Corleone compound (mall?) that Clemenza and later Frankie take over, looks much bigger than it does in Pt II. In Pt II, when Frankie comes home and Michael is waiting for him, you can look across the street and see $5,000 houses (much like Hyman Roth's). In GF, all the surrounding houses are mansions. Any reason for this? I wonder if they shot that one scene in Florida on the same block as the Roth house? Does anyone have an answer for this one? I questioned this a couple of years ago. I referred to the pink house across the street in GFII. As others have stated, for GFII, they apparently removed or did not reconstruct the fake wall that was present in GFI. That's why you can see that pinklooking house behind Frankie et al.
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Re: Questions from Newbies
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08/07/07 06:23 PM
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From which mistress did Vincent Corleone come? . . . The broad upstairs during Connie's wedding, or the dame in the upstairs apartment? What "dame in the upstairs apartment"? If you mean the one Sonny visited (and then walked downstairs with his bodyguards), then its the same one he boffed at the wedding (Lucy Mancini, Connie's maid of honor).
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Re: Questions from Newbies
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08/07/07 09:29 PM
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Carson_Corleone
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Godfather
Caporegieme or Capo's (Captains)
Then I think Buttomen? Someone else will have to go from here.
-In my HOME!!! In my BEDROOM WHERE MY WIFE SLEEPS!! Where my children come and play with their toys. In my home.
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Re: Questions from Newbies
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08/08/07 11:07 AM
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What is a consigliere, and where does he fit in? The consigliere is the top advisor to the Don. He is probably the one person in whom the Don reposits his trust.
"Io sono stanco, sono imbigliato, and I wan't everyone here to know, there ain't gonna be no trouble from me..Don Corleone..Cicc' a port!"
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Re: Questions from Newbies
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08/08/07 12:24 PM
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Carson_Corleone
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What is a consigliere, and where does he fit in? See the scene at the wedding when Michael and Kay are eating their lasagna. MICHAEL: "Not a Sicilian, but -- I think he's gonna be consiglieri." KAY: "What's that?" MICHAEL: "That's um, like a counselor -- an advisor -- very important to the family." The consiglieri is the only one that takes orders directly from The Don, which is why the position is so important. And that's why it was strange Vito would have a non-sicilian as his consiglieri. Sicilians have a strong belief in "omerta", the code of silence. Where as Hagen was an adopted kraut, mick.
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-In my HOME!!! In my BEDROOM WHERE MY WIFE SLEEPS!! Where my children come and play with their toys. In my home.
-My father taught me many things here -- he taught me in this room. He taught me -- keep your friends close, but your enemies closer.
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Re: Questions from Newbies
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08/08/07 12:31 PM
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The consiglieri is the only one that takes orders directly from The Don, which is why the position is so important.
Yes, that was true in the Corleone Family. Puzo made a point of Vito's carefulness in giving orders only to one person at a time--Hagen, his consigliere--to prevent having witnesses to his criminal orders in case someone turned rat. He also gave orders to Luca directly, without Hagen, but never to more than one person at a time. Real-life Dons don't necessarily follow that pattern. The consigliere may be a respected Family elder, who's retired from active racketeering and is functioning as an adviser to the Don. Or the consigliere may be one of the caporegimes, who has people under him and rackets to look after in addition to his adviser role. Sometimes the roles are interchangeable: one of the Federal surveillance tapes caught John Gotti telling Sammy Da Bull: "What would you like to be--underboss, consigliere...whatevever makes you feel better." Modern Dons are seldom as careful as Vito in passing on orders without witnesses. That's one of the main reasons so many of them have been ratted out, and have ratted out others in return.
Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu, E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu... E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
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Re: Questions from Newbies
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08/08/07 05:52 PM
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Capo di tutti i capi
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What are the names of the members of the family by "rank?" . . . and what are their jobs/functions?
Obviously "Godfather" is at the top and controls the entire family. Where does it go from there? Don/Godfather - Head of the Family Consigliere - Advisor to the don Underboss - Next in line to become head of the family Capo - Captains of the mob and take care of the day to day activities. Made members - People that are recognised as being part of the mob. Associates and ousiders - People not in the inner circles of the Mob see Goodfellas I hope that helps.
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