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Re: Fanucci - 2 questions / observations
[Re: MaryCas]
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07/30/07 12:36 PM
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1. I think that was done to show he has wealth and to make him stand out.
2. This was a test Vito was conducting. He did it to show Fanucci he's not just another person Fanucci can harass. Since Vito convinced Fanucci to take less money, this sealed it for Vito that Fanucci wasn't such a big shot. Also, there is a deleted scene where Fanucci get's his throat slit by some kids, this also helped Vito realize Fanucci wasn't truly backed up by Maranzella, the Black Hand.
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Re: Fanucci - 2 questions / observations
[Re: Sicilian Babe]
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07/30/07 01:46 PM
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Fanucci wore white, probably as vanity, and to show the people he was shaking down that he was a "grandee," someone whose physical appearance would show them he was bigger and better than they were--and not to be messed with. In addition to establishing an alibi as SB said, Vito's charade may have been both a test, a precaution and a lesson in dealing with his new friends, Clemenza and Tessio. A test, because he wanted to see if they'd trust him with the negotiations and give him their share of the money to be paid to Fanucci. A precaution, because he didn't want the possibility that his new pals might rat him out--"Yeah, Vito said he'd kill Fanucci rather than pay him off." A lesson, because until then he'd been silent and passive, seemingly accepting Clemenza's leadership (and in a deleted scene, grunt work). But Fanucci's sudden death surprised his pals, made them wary of him for a while (per the novel) and finally cemented Vito's leadership.
Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu, E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu... E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
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Re: Fanucci - 2 questions / observations
[Re: olivant]
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Vito liked to, in a sense, drag things out. For example, he could have told Bonasera yes or no. But he enjoyed maneuvering people into a position of dependence, supplication, or misapprehension. he also could have told Sollozz yes or no over the phone or by messenger or whatever. But he enjoyed the joust, the performance. That aspect of Vito's character is superbly portrayed in II, in his scenes with Sr. Roberto. They're among the best in the Trilogy.
Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu, E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu... E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
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Re: Fanucci - 2 questions / observations
[Re: johnny ola]
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07/30/07 03:58 PM
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As others have said, it was to give himself an alibi after the killing (Fannuci was alive when he left the shop), although the novel explains he didn't need one (The cops only talked to known hoods about Fannuci's murder, and even then they didn't really care too much about it). I also like the theory that it was another test to make sure (one last time, I guess) that Fannuci was NOT a big shot and didn't have any connections to Maranzalla or the Black Hand, although the novel says that Vito's offering less money was permissible (it specifically says that Fannuci might be persuaded to wait longer, or take nothing more).
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Re: Fanucci - 2 questions / observations
[Re: Turnbull]
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07/30/07 05:03 PM
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Vito liked to, in a sense, drag things out. For example, he could have told Bonasera yes or no. But he enjoyed maneuvering people into a position of dependence, supplication, or misapprehension. he also could have told Sollozz yes or no over the phone or by messenger or whatever. But he enjoyed the joust, the performance. That aspect of Vito's character is superbly portrayed in II, in his scenes with Sr. Roberto. They're among the best in the Trilogy. Exactly TB. Getting Roberto's agreement to allow Colombo to stay then bringing up the dog was pure hubris.
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Re: Fanucci - 2 questions / observations
[Re: dontomasso]
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08/29/07 10:03 AM
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In the novel didn't Fanucci go to Vito's apartment? I think that's where the haggling over the money took place. He went looking for "his" money, not Vito going to see Fanucci. Vito then made sure people saw Fanucci leave the Corleone apartment alive and well and HAPPY, no sign that they had argued. Vito then made his way roof to roof to a building across the street from Fanucci's building. He went down the stairs, crossed the street and waited in the entranceway of Fanucci's building. He killed him just inside the entrance to his apartment building.
The white suit I think was a way of flaunting his supposed status. In those days, wearing white and keeping it clean, showed you didn't do manual work. Average people didn't do laundry like we do today.
An interesting point from the novel....Sonny witnesses his father killing Fanucci.
Last edited by FreddoN; 08/29/07 10:04 AM.
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Re: Fanucci - 2 questions / observations
[Re: dontomasso]
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08/29/07 07:11 PM
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During Fanucci's final stroll, Vito carefully stalks him from the rooftops and quietly accomplishes his goal.
During Zasa's final stroll, Vincent boldly and recklessly disrupts the entire procession to publicly accomplish his goal.
I remember thinking that this was done purposely to show the contrast between a young, deliberate Vito and a young, rash Vincent...and possibly to show Vincent's similar temperament to Sonny.
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