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Re: Quitting Smoking
[Re: Don Cardi]
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09/03/07 10:15 AM
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Thank you for th kudos Mary Cas!  However, I must admit this venture for me is very selfish. I can only consentrate on me, me me and getting through the withdrawal process. Being here, and hearing all of you wonderful people giving encouragement is just that....very encouraging. Probably more than you can imagine, and I thank you all.  DC, I know exactly what you mean about urges. It's not too bad any more, passing up on a "habit" urge, it's the "craving" that is the killer, but for me too, it's getting easier and easier. Yesterday, I was walking to my car from the grocery store. As soon as I left the store I smell smoke coming from someone's cigaret. Man, I took a deep whif and wanted to follow the smell.  Do you find that you notice everybody who lites up, whether it be on the street, or on tv in a movie. You "notice" and think, "I use to do that." I finally told my kids. We were all together yesterday and I made the announcment. They both were thrilled and hugged me and wished me luck. It'll be nice having their inspiration so close to me. TIS
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Re: Quitting Smoking
[Re: The Italian Stallionette]
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09/04/07 01:14 AM
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TIS and DC, Though I've been mostly silent (but deadly) in this thread, I have been reading each post and following every step. I am really glad that you have been able to keep up with this. It's tough, and will continue to be so for awhile (I'm imagining), but there are a lot of good feelings and support aimed your way from Tessio Territory. And, of course, my interests are personal as well. "He's takin' this very, very personal!" Yep.  Signor V.
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Re: Quitting Smoking
[Re: Don Cardi]
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09/08/07 11:45 AM
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Glad to hear you're doing well DC.  As I approach month 3, I too am doing good. I still miss it and still crave it, but fighting the cravings gets easier and easier so far. Hopefully we'll both be winners DC!!!!  SB, thanks for asking. Hope you're doing well. TIS
"Mankind must put an end to war before war puts an end to mankind. War will exist until that distant day when the conscientious objector enjoys the same reputation and prestige that the warrior does today." JFK
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Re: Quitting Smoking
[Re: MaryCas]
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09/11/07 03:01 AM
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It's been said that it takes 21 days to form a habit. Whether you meant "form" or "break", I still disagree... everyone's different, with different addictive personalities. And certainly some substances are stronger/weaker than others. I would think that crack or heroin would be bad examples to both forming or breaking a habit in 21 days.... so, I'm confused... But as for the next sentence - absolutely!! I'm VERY proud of you guys!! I just hope soon I will join you once I get to that "place" myself...
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Re: Quitting Smoking
[Re: MaryCas]
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09/11/07 08:30 AM
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Thanks MC. That IS encouraging!  I suppose as far as quitting smoking goes, at least for me, you have to know when "your" time to quit is and mentally prepare yourself for what lies ahead. I, like every other smoker, have thought about quitting, had the opportunity at any time to quit, why now? I don't know. That's why you can't tell anyone to quit. It has to be something they want to do and they'll know when/if. Even then, of course, I (or anyone) could fall off the wagon.  It's a battle but I don't intend to let it be on my mind in 10 years let alone 1 year. We'll see.  Again, thanks to all. You are all VERY uplifting and encouraging. TIS
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Re: Quitting Smoking
[Re: J Geoff]
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09/12/07 08:17 AM
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It's been said that it takes 21 days to form a habit. Whether you meant "form" or "break", I still disagree... everyone's different, with different addictive personalities. And certainly some substances are stronger/weaker than others. I would think that crack or heroin would be bad examples to both forming or breaking a habit in 21 days.... so, I'm confused... I offered that as encouragement. Form - a new habit. Like DC has mentioned, there are things in a smokers daily life (habits) that are associated with smoking; having coffee, reading the newspaper, after dinner, having a cocktail. Those are habits associated with smoking. To disassociate from smoking is breaking a habit. I prefer the positive - forming a new habit. And I certainly don't confuse habits with addictions. Smoking is an addiction, so to stop, one has to break the addiction and break the habit. A tough change no matter how look at it.
Whoever exalts himself will be humbled, whoever humbles himself will be exalted - Matthew 23:12
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Re: Quitting Smoking
[Re: Don Cardi]
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09/22/07 01:21 PM
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Hi DC, I was gonna ask you the same thing. I'm glad to hear you're still holding up ok.  Yea, I'm doing good also. My big problem was/is insomnia. One thing that I've noticed the last couple weeks is that I've been "moody". I don't know if I attribute it to nicotine withdrawal this late in the game (it's been over 3 months), or lack of sleep or what.  This will be amusing probably to everyone here, and today I laugh at it too, but the last couple weeks, I've been pissed at parents, students and politicians.  Everything pisses me off. I told a friend co-worker the other day that I was afraid I'd go off on somebody and that I was tired of doing everything (wa wa wa). I'm sure everyone at work would consider it totally out of character for me and of course didn't want to ruin any good relationships I have with my boss and many co-workers.... So....I took a "mental health" day off yesterday. The good news is, I slept like a baby last night and got up AFTER the sun rose. It's been weeks since then. I feel great today!!! I guess lack of sleep brought on the moodiness. TIS
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Re: Quitting Smoking
[Re: Sicilian Babe]
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09/23/07 10:56 AM
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SB, When and if you decide to, feel free to post your frustrations, hurdles andtriumphs here. If nothing else, it'll be good to vent and/or write your thoughts. My girls asked me if I thought their father would also quit smoking. I told them it's different for everyone and that you simply can NOT tell someone to stop. It must be his decision, on his terms. It's hard to explain to nonsmokers.  One thing I swear I'll never be is one of these "holier than thou" former smokers who suddenly are self-righteous and preachy. You know the type? The person who is waving smoke away from his/her face even if you're smoking 20 feet away from them.  Anyway keep us posted. I'm sure DC will agree that you can use us as your support should you decide to go for it. TIS
"Mankind must put an end to war before war puts an end to mankind. War will exist until that distant day when the conscientious objector enjoys the same reputation and prestige that the warrior does today." JFK
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Re: Quitting Smoking
[Re: The Italian Stallionette]
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09/23/07 11:06 AM
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One thing I swear I'll never be is one of these "holier than thou" former smokers who suddenly are self-righteous and preachy. You know the type? The person who is waving smoke away from his/her face even if you're smoking 20 feet away from them.  TIS DITTO! And SB, go for it. At least give it a shot. We'll be here for you when you do.
Don Cardi Five - ten years from now, they're gonna wish there was American Cosa Nostra. Five - ten years from now, they're gonna miss John Gotti.
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Re: Quitting Smoking
[Re: olivant]
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09/23/07 03:25 PM
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What many smokers may not realize is that whether your 5 feet away or 25 feet away, us non-smokers are still able to smell the smoke. Now while I'm not as obnoxious as some non-smokers, I can't very well say I blame them for acting the way they do. Smoking harms everybody around...not just the person who is smoking. ***EDIT*** Good luck, SB! I have all the faith in the world that you can succeed at quitting! 
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Re: Quitting Smoking
[Re: XDCX]
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09/23/07 03:42 PM
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I can understand not wanting to sit next to a smoker in a bar, or restuarant. But, here in CA you simply can not smoke anywhere (restaurants, bars, courthouse, anywhere indoors and even some parks are prohibiting smoking now) so I don't see it as a problem.  I am attempting to speak as a "non-smoker" if it's fair to call myself that yet. I didn't smoke inside my house, but on my porch or in my car. If I was outside on my porch having a cigaret and it bothered someone else just walking by, I say tough titties!!! I can drive through Ontario, CA or Norco and smell horseshit for a while and that too will pass. I can see and drive through the smog and shit in the air here that nobody seems to do anything about either. So, while I wouldn't deliberately irritate somone when I smoked, I figure "IF" I still smoked in my house, porch car or anywhere outside where it might still be legal, and somebody passed by and smelled it I wouldn't feel out of bounds at all by continuing to smoke. Let me add too, that I love saving the tons of money not buying smokes every month. :)I hear they are gonna raise again the tax on ciagarets. Every illness that ails the world will be paid by the taxes they add to punish the smoker. That's another issue I guess though. Perhaps with all the illnesses that the obese get and bring on themselves, they should raise taxes on foods they buy. Yea, I'm being somewhat sarcastic, but still feel it's a valid comparison. TIS
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Re: Quitting Smoking
[Re: The Italian Stallionette]
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09/23/07 04:09 PM
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TIS, I was always annoyed that non-smokers felt perfectly at home lecturing smokers about the ill effects (like we're blind, deaf and illiterate) of smoking, but would never dare go up to an obese person chowing down on their second Big Mac and reprimand them. It is an extremely valid comparison, especially since the number of smokers is decreasing and the number of obese people is increasing.
And what REALLY pissed me off is the fact that Capitol has a smoking lounge - INDOORS!! I thought all federal buildings were smoke-free?? Oh, just not THAT one???
Edit: TIS, my MIL never wanted to quit, and I don't think that she considers herself as having quit. IMHO, in her mind, she's simply taking a vacation from smoking.
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Re: Quitting Smoking
[Re: XDCX]
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09/23/07 04:41 PM
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X, I understand your point. But I keep hearing about how smokers have burdened the health care system, and obviously obesity does, too, and in ever-increasing numbers. Yet, it would be rude to say something to an obese person about losing weight, but perfectly fine to go up to a complete stranger that is smoking and harangue them.
I agree with you about second-hand smoke, and anyone who doesn't recognize it is just an idiot. I will not smoke in the car or around my children, and I never have. I don't understand people who do. There's nothing more disgusting than picking up a little child and they smell like cigarettes.
I was having a cigarette outside a few weeks ago and this old man came up to me. He said, Maybe this isn't my business, but please stop smoking. It's so bad for you, yadda, yadda, yadda, and he starts giving me the whole speech.
Inwardly, I was fuming, because I am so sick of people who feel compelled to speak to total strangers about it. I was polite to the man, because he really wasn't being a pain in the ass, and he was polite and not obnoxious, like some people.
And then tears started to roll down his cheeks, and he told me that he lost his wife to cancer and he wished he had insisted that she quit smoking. I was glad that I hadn't snapped at him, and I thanked him for his concern and told him I would really think about it. With DC and TIS as my inspiration and my SA (Smoker's Anonymous?? lol) support group, I am getting closer and closer to taking the step.
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Re: Quitting Smoking
[Re: XDCX]
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09/23/07 04:42 PM
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True, you can't get second hand anything from being obese, unless of course if it's hereditary than I guess would be passed on.  However, much of the bitching about smokers is the healthcare expense that they can incur from something they bring on themselves. So, as in the obese, they too can have enormous expenses from health problems that occur from being obese. In both cases, if there is no health insurance or limited health insurance, who pays the cost? Don't misunderstand, I am very happy I have quit smoking and hopefully will never smoke again. As I stated earlier, my cousin is dying of lung cancer and she was part of my motivation for quitting. My sister tells me that many are saying, "well, she bought it on herself" which confirms to me that many are totally heartless and obviously cold hearted when it comes to this particular addiction. It makes me want to cry. I can sense many people do feel that way. I pray I am never that heartless. TIS
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Re: Quitting Smoking
[Re: DonVitoCorleone]
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09/24/07 02:51 AM
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...why on Earth would anybody ever want to quit smoking?  Kid, you're playing with fire. Don't go there.  Signor V.
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"Sure I cook with wine - sometimes I even add it to the food!"
"When life itself seems lunatic, who knows where madness lies?"
"It was a grass harp... And we listened."
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