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Re: Presidential Primaries 2008
[Re: klydon1]
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02/20/08 12:42 PM
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I also think that people are just sick of the Clintons and Bill should have stayed out of it.
If Hillary Clinton wins the election and is the re-elected in 2012 and serves her full term, then we will have had a 28 year stretch where the presidents were either a Bush or a Clinton. That's mind boggling.
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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Re: Presidential Primaries 2008
[Re: Don Cardi]
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02/20/08 12:46 PM
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Yahoo News - Clinton looks to Ohio to revive a candidacy bruised by 10 straight Obama victories. She's depending on you Miggy!  Well I know my father-in-law is voting for her so she has at least 1 vote in Ohio. She had a rally last night in Youngstown. They said on TV that she wouldn't even talk about her loss yesterday.
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Re: Presidential Primaries 2008
[Re: Mignon]
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02/20/08 12:47 PM
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Yahoo News - Clinton looks to Ohio to revive a candidacy bruised by 10 straight Obama victories. She's depending on you Miggy! They said on TV that she wouldn't even talk about her loss yesterday. Very mature of her. 
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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Re: Presidential Primaries 2008
[Re: klydon1]
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02/20/08 05:24 PM
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Am I understanding correctly that Romney, who recently endorsed McCain, gave McCain his delegates???? Can he do that? If so, I assume Edwards can give his to whomever he endorses????  Anyone know? TIS In years past, candidates have been able to give their delegates away once they were out. I'm not certain re: the specific guidelines, but Edwards 30-40 some delegates are very important to whomever he endorses. Advice to Obama: Limit the time your wife spends in front of the microphone. Be careful of the borrowed quotes...remember Joe Biden in '88. I cannot remember what Biden did back then. All I remember was the Gary Hart controversy from that campaign. Can you refresh my memory?
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Re: Presidential Primaries 2008
[Re: ronnierocketAGO]
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02/20/08 05:52 PM
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Teamsters endorse Obama!
The official announcement won't come until tomorrow or Thursday, but I hear it's a done deal. It's the second major union endorsement for him this week, coming on the heels of the service employees international.
This will help him in labor minded Ohio and Pennsylvania a great deal.
Ah cool, Obama has got the endorsement from the Mob! Not cool, Tennessee, not cool at all. 
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Re: Presidential Primaries 2008
[Re: Sicilian1]
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02/20/08 05:57 PM
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Hillary is definitely in DEEP DOO-DOO. I think Obama is going to win the nomination. Well I guess people are more willing to vote for the first Black president than for the first female president?
I also think that people are just sick of the Clintons and Bill should have stayed out of it. Like Pizzaboy, its not a sexist reason why Hillary is losing. Democrats are now seeing what me and several Republicans knew of for years and year....a petty arrogant woman who like her husband, its always someone else's fault for a fuck-up, and thinks the Presidency is her birthright. I'm sorry, but that "speech plagarism" issue blew up in her face..and that "black candidate" nonsense in South Carolina may have been the turn of the tide, when African-Americans decided to overwhelmingly back Obama. A good example is Chris Rock. If you've seen his stand-up comedy, he was a serious Clintonphile...and while he did campaign work for Bubba in 1996, he's now working for Obama.
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Re: Presidential Primaries 2008
[Re: goombah]
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02/20/08 06:04 PM
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Advice to Obama: Limit the time your wife spends in front of the microphone. Be careful of the borrowed quotes...remember Joe Biden in '88. I cannot remember what Biden did back then. All I remember was the Gary Hart controversy from that campaign. Can you refresh my memory? In 1988 Biden and Hart were frontrunners for the Democratic nomination. Hart's dreams were shattered by "Monkey Business", Donna Rice and a couple of embarrassing photos. Biden gave an impassioned speech in Iowa, which later was revealed to have borrowed passages from British Labour Party leader, Neil Kinnock without proper credit. Additionally, the press found other instances where Biden was using lines from past Democratic leaders as his own. A little more scrutiny revealed that Biden had plagirized a law school paper in the 1960s, and had embellished his resume. By this time, Biden had to withdraw from the race. Today, with internet access it is much easier to identify "borrowed speeches." Michael Dukakis came in as a bit of an early dark horse, kept his nose clean, and won the nomination. He ran a pretty good campaign until he got into the tank. Does anyone remember that?
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Re: Presidential Primaries 2008
[Re: klydon1]
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02/20/08 06:21 PM
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Advice to Obama: Limit the time your wife spends in front of the microphone. Be careful of the borrowed quotes...remember Joe Biden in '88. I cannot remember what Biden did back then. All I remember was the Gary Hart controversy from that campaign. Can you refresh my memory? In 1988 Biden and Hart were frontrunners for the Democratic nomination. Hart's dreams were shattered by "Monkey Business", Donna Rice and a couple of embarrassing photos. Biden gave an impassioned speech in Iowa, which later was revealed to have borrowed passages from British Labour Party leader, Neil Kinnock without proper credit. Additionally, the press found other instances where Biden was using lines from past Democratic leaders as his own. A little more scrutiny revealed that Biden had plagirized a law school paper in the 1960s, and had embellished his resume. By this time, Biden had to withdraw from the race. Today, with internet access it is much easier to identify "borrowed speeches." Michael Dukakis came in as a bit of an early dark horse, kept his nose clean, and won the nomination. He ran a pretty good campaign until he got into the tank. Does anyone remember that? I thought Dukakis was FUCKED by Horton....but yeah, looking like Snoopy in an Army Tank didn't exactly help either. At least he got to be the butt of a joke in NAKED GUN 2. As for the plagarism issue, while it screwed Biden, that only harmed Obama like a bullet shot at Superman's chest. I tell ya, if he can handle someone as tough in the attacks as Hillary.....he will be a formidable opponent for the GOP Machine.
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Re: Presidential Primaries 2008
[Re: ronnierocketAGO]
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02/20/08 09:57 PM
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Very interesting primaries last night no???  By all accounts Clinton should know by the Ohio/Texas primaries if she's in or out. Most likely out, but we'll see.  The polls always start out with Clinton with a sometimes double digit lead, but there's almost two weeks to go and Obama has been consistently closing the gap and coming out ahead. TIS
"Mankind must put an end to war before war puts an end to mankind. War will exist until that distant day when the conscientious objector enjoys the same reputation and prestige that the warrior does today." JFK
"War is over, if you want it" - John Lennon
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Re: Presidential Primaries 2008
[Re: Don Cardi]
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02/20/08 10:23 PM
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Good question DC (How are you btw? Haven't seen you around. You ok?) I've been following this closely and have tried to come up with an answer. I really don't think it'll be Hillary. I'm thinking perhaps, Joe Biden. He has had a lot of foreign affairs experience and I think would be useful/helpful to Obama. Gore would be great to have in the cabinet as well, although again not VP. I also wonder if maybe John Edwards might be Attorney General. What do ya think? I don't think he'd go with a second VP run. Just thinking out loud. TIS
"Mankind must put an end to war before war puts an end to mankind. War will exist until that distant day when the conscientious objector enjoys the same reputation and prestige that the warrior does today." JFK
"War is over, if you want it" - John Lennon
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Re: Presidential Primaries 2008
[Re: Don Cardi]
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02/20/08 10:41 PM
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To my knowledge he hasn't come out in support of either, but I think he did work more closely with Clinton, so I don't know. He's kind of long winded, but I think he's knowledgeable.  TIS
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"War is over, if you want it" - John Lennon
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Re: Presidential Primaries 2008
[Re: pizzaboy]
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02/21/08 01:31 PM
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Well, this story is certainly all over the news. I just can't help but feel there is another shoe to drop. If this is what the NYT has, without any kind of back up, I don't think this will go anywhere. However, IF this other shoe drops, that's another story. Were they waiting for denials and than gonna drop a bomb or what???? I hear they had this story in December and didn't run it. It seems if they wanted to throw McCain out of the running, they would have printed it then. Politics, what a sleazy game eh???? TIS
"Mankind must put an end to war before war puts an end to mankind. War will exist until that distant day when the conscientious objector enjoys the same reputation and prestige that the warrior does today." JFK
"War is over, if you want it" - John Lennon
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