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Re: Why did they make Luca so............
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08/25/01 12:44 AM
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That's a good comment. In the book they made even Vito fear him, and he was described as Loyal and immensly powerful and intimidating. In the film he seems nervous and wound up about making a mistake when congratulation Vito, thus turning around the roles and showing his fear of the old boss. He also looks gullible and helpless in the bar before he gets killed. The reason but this is completely unexplained, it certainly isnt to make way for the other capis because they all play a major role later on in the film and in part II, and Neri in III. Definitely wasnt to clear the air for Michael, there is no question that if Vito wanted him to be loyal to the new boss, he would follow the orders with impunity ala Calo to Tommassino in GFIII.
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Re: Why did they make Luca so............
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08/25/01 10:19 AM
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Originally posted by sonny's girl: Ok in the book we know Luca as this tough hard looking mean guy. But in the movie he seems so stupid at Connie's wedding. Why is that? He wasn't the smartest of characters but to me in my opinion I would say he was street smart. So he would have no problem of nerves outside of the wedding or Vito's presence. I think they showed him to be scared of Vito to show even Vito's power.
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Re: Why did they make Luca so............
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08/25/01 07:43 PM
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It was said that Al Neri was Michael's Luca Brasi.
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Re: Why did they make Luca so............
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08/25/01 11:27 PM
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Al Neri the man, doesn't compare to Luca the man, but I personally think he had more intelligence. Hey - if he lasted for possibly 50+ years w/ Michael/Vincenzo, he must have something up in the noggin. Also, he never broke Omerta (Not that he had to) and did everything Michael said. I think he is Michael's Luca Brasi.
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Re: Why did they make Luca so............
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08/27/01 03:22 PM
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Originally posted by Sonny: I don't agree that Luca looked stupid, he was just nervous. I, admittedly, do not think that not-shaking Sollozzo's hands was a very stupid thing to do. But that doesn't mean the guy was dumb. "...he could arrange a killing without anyone ever finding out about it...."
As for Mike's Luca, that was a cooment regarding Al Neri. It was only made in the Saga version. I also agree that Luca was not being stupid by refusing to shake Sollozo's hand, in my opinion he did not shake it because that would have meant going against his Godfather, and as we see often, the godfather is the ONLY person or thing which shakes Brasi... [ August 27, 2001: Message edited by: Constanzia ]
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Re: Why did they make Luca so............
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08/27/01 08:13 PM
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Originally posted by Constanzia:
I also agree that Luca was not being stupid by refusing to shake Sollozo's hand, in my opinion he did not shake it because that would have meant going against his Godfather, and as we see often, the godfather is the ONLY person or thing which shakes Brasi...
[ August 27, 2001: Message edited by: Constanzia ] Actually, in my post I meant that it was stupid of Luca not to shake hands with Sollozzo. He was sent by Vito to infiltrate their plans and shaking Sollozzo's hands would mean that Luca was willing to make some extra money on-the-side. That didn't mean he betrayed his Don. By not-shaking sollozzo's hand, he signaled ill-will. We know about Sollozzo's intentions of killing Luca anyway, but Luca didn't know about it at the time (are you listening Luca?), and he should've shaken Virgil's hand.
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Re: Why did they make Luca so............
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08/27/01 09:02 PM
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I've ordered to on Amazon.com. It should be here in a month or so - Never heard of the author though. He famous?
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Re: Why did they make Luca so............
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08/28/01 10:57 AM
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I liked the Godfather Legacy. It was good.  As for the Luca Brasi thing, maybe the reason he didn't shake Sollozzo's hand was for the same reason Vincent didn't go all the way with Altobello, mainly b/c he knew that it wouldn't totally be believed. Luca was known as being very loyal to Don Vito, so maybe he pulled back so it wouldn't look strange.
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Re: Why did they make Luca so............
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08/28/01 04:10 PM
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Originally posted by Liz Skywalker: I liked the Godfather Legacy. It was good. 
As for the Luca Brasi thing, maybe the reason he didn't shake Sollozzo's hand was for the same reason Vincent didn't go all the way with Altobello, mainly b/c he knew that it wouldn't totally be believed. Luca was known as being very loyal to Don Vito, so maybe he pulled back so it wouldn't look strange.Apparently it didn't do him any favours, since that reluctant hand was then icepicked to the barcounter as he waited his end 
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Re: Why did they make Luca so............
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11/20/01 03:20 PM
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Originally posted by Sonny:
Actually, in my post I meant that it [b]was stupid of Luca not to shake hands with Sollozzo. He was sent by Vito to infiltrate their plans and shaking Sollozzo's hands would mean that Luca was willing to make some extra money on-the-side. That didn't mean he betrayed his Don. By not-shaking sollozzo's hand, he signaled ill-will. We know about Sollozzo's intentions of killing Luca anyway, but Luca didn't know about it at the time (are you listening Luca?), and he should've shaken Virgil's hand.[/b] That's what I meant, when I said the Don was the only person to shake him, I meant to rattle him, you know? Make him nervous. I meant that if he agreed to shake hands it's an unspoken contract that he agree's to go against his Don.
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Re: Why did they make Luca so............
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11/20/01 07:47 PM
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I think Luca's portrayal in the movie was consistent with his character in the book. He was a man of action and a power, "like dynamite or lightning," but he also chose to serve Don Corleone, even though there seemed to be no compulsion for him to do so. Hence the contradiction between his character and the flowery words that weren't natural to him, and that he had to deliver in a stammering, awkward way. But he was smart enough "to do a job of murder all by himself." And the Don trusts him with a major threat to his life. "Go to the Tattaglias, make them think that you're not too happy with our Family, find out what he's got under his fingernails." That's not a mission for a guy whom the Don thinks is dumb, or is just plain muscle.
Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu, E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu... E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
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Re: Why did they make Luca so............
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02/24/02 07:33 PM
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I think FFC made Luca Brasi so stupid because the idea of a huge dumbass is a funny idea and it's funnier on film than it is on paper.
"Mio padre se chiamo Antonio Andolini, e questo è per te." - Robert De Niro to Giuseppe Sillato in The Godfather Part II.
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Re: Why did they make Luca so............
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08/22/03 02:30 PM
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the guy who played luca studdered because he was nervous in front of brando....so they kept it and added the scene with him talkin to himself
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Re: Why did they make Luca so............
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08/22/03 02:49 PM
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Keyser did you know that Agent Dave Kujan of US Customs is looking for you? wil. 
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Re: Why did they make Luca so............
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08/22/03 11:45 PM
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in the godfather 2 movie, they should've showed the part from the book how when don corleone was shot by those irish guys, and luca went on a killing spree and killed them all. also it would've been cool if they showed when luca hacked up those two guys sent by capone. i loved reading about luca in the book.
"I neva fucked anybody over in my life, who didn't have it comin' to 'im, you got that? All I have in this world is my balls, and my word, and I don't break 'em for no one, jou understand?"-Tony Montana
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Re: Why did they make Luca so............
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08/23/03 01:59 PM
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Patrick there is only one book.
Johnnie actually Luca only hacked up one Capone hitman. The other died when he swallowed a small towel that was stuffed in his mouth. He was so shocked and frightened watching Luca hacking up his partner to pieces he swallowed the towel and choked to death.
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Re: Why did they make Luca so............
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08/23/03 05:38 PM
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The most grusome and horrible story about Luca is of course the secret story no one wanted to tell Michael. He finally hears the story while hiding in Sciliy. The story is told to Michael through Dr.Taza by an old woman named Filomena. I assume everyone here knows the story, so I will not go to the trouble to tell it. It is some story, and some Luca.
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