A Save is really worth 3 points: +8 for the save, and -5 for the privilege.
The way DS made changes it is now +8 for the save and -3 for the SVOP, so a save is worth 5 pts now instead of the 3 they were worth last year. However a hold is still worth only 1 pt. My point was that if we are making closers worth more why not setup men as well? Closers would be useless if the setup men didn't keep the game close enough for them to get a save. How often do starters really go 8 innings? Setup men are important, not as important as closers but we shouldn't widen the gap between the two.
It was nice last year when closers were frustrating to turn to a setup man for stability because there are some really good setup men out there.
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A starter can pitch great into the 8th inning, then give up 1 run and lose it. He'll still get decent points, but not great points. A relieve (set-up guy OR closer) can pitch great for the first two batters, then fall apart, give up 1 run, botch the save, lose the game, and when it comes down to it, one bad pitch can nose-dive us into negative points!
Very true and very frustrating in the fantasy world as much as real life. That's just baseball.
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In the end, it doesn't really matter because we're all playing with the exact same points system, but something just seems wrong....
I agree, sort of... we could set every single stat to +1, regardless of it being a HR or a BB. Since we are playing by the same rules it wouldn't matter. But we need to make the fantasy game as close to the real life importance as possible and I think setup men are just as (or almost as) important to the team as closers or starters because they can blow a game for the team as well.
Since both closers and setup men can take the same beating thanks to a loss, I think we should keep it close as far as points earned for saves and holds. Since a save is worth (after the math) 5 pts, maybe the hold category should be raised to 3? That still makes closers more important, but doesn't make setup men useless for the season.
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