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Re: Question on Vito and Barzini
[Re: dontomasso]
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03/10/08 02:55 PM
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Agreed. At the meeting, Barzini sits at the head of the table. After Vito gives his explanation of why drugs will be the ruination of the Mafia, Barzini replies on behalf of the others. When Vito appears to make a concession, Barzini jumps right in: "Then it is agreed--the traffic in drugs will be allowed and Don Corleone will give it protection in the East..." And modern Barzini is the only Don smoking a cigarette--the Moustache Petes are puffing DiNobili's.
The scene in the garden with Vito and Michael occurred after the scene in which Tessio complains that Barzini is moving in on his territories. So it's no surprise that Vito would conclude that Barzini will be the one to make the move on Michael.
The only mystery is: Why didn't Vito know earlier that "it was Barzini all along"? As he told Tom, "Tattaglia is a pimp...alone he could never have outfought Santino." Tattaglia had always been a pimp--didn't Vito know that before the meeting? And, shouldn't Vito have known that Barzini was the number-two Don, and that he'd have the most to gain from the drugs deal, and from eliminating Vito?
Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu, E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu... E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
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Re: Question on Vito and Barzini
[Re: Turnbull]
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03/10/08 02:58 PM
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The only mystery is: Why didn't Vito know earlier that "it was Barzini all along"? As he told Tom, "Tattaglia is a pimp...alone he could never have outfought Santino." Tattaglia had always been a pimp--didn't Vito know that before the meeting? And, shouldn't Vito have known that Barzini was the number-two Don, and that he'd have the most to gain from the drugs deal, and from eliminating Vito? Because the Don, rest in peace, was slippin.
"Io sono stanco, sono imbigliato, and I wan't everyone here to know, there ain't gonna be no trouble from me..Don Corleone..Cicc' a port!"
"I stood in the courtroom like a fool."
"I am Constanza: Lord of the idiots."
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Re: Question on Vito and Barzini
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03/11/08 03:42 PM
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The other reason the Don might have been slightly slower to see Barzini's involvement was the Don's prejudice against such "dirty" businesses as drugs and prostitution.
Since Sollozzo was a former pimp and Tattaglia was deeply involved in pandering, the Don may have simply conflated both vices together and not seen past Tattaglia's involvement, for whom he obviously had no respect.
The Don might have had these thoughts:
"This narcotics business is just the sort of infamia a man like Tattaglia would be involved in. Barzini's no friend of mine but he's no fool either. He's too smart to waste his time backing a drug peddler like Sollozzo. But Tattaglia is greedy and stupid." In the novel, Vito says almost exactly that, after Tom briefs him on the upcoming meeting with Sol. He says something to the effect: "Do you have it in your notes that Sollozzo made his living before the war from prostitution--as the Tattaglias do now. Write that down before you forget it." Tom is stung: he knows that Vito is "notoriously straight-laced on matters of sex," and fears that he will let that bias get in the way of ok'ing a deal that Tom has just touted as being good for the family.
Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu, E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu... E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
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Re: Question on Vito and Barzini
[Re: dontomasso]
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03/11/08 03:45 PM
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Another clue that it was Barzini al along was the deal they floated out to the Corleones after the two atempts on Vit's life failed. Sonny kills Bruno Tattaglia, and they offer to cancel it out very readily. I don't know that Tattaglia would be that forgiving about his own son, but Barzini.... That's a good point, dt. It was pretty grand of them to say that Bruno Tattaglia's death is tit-for-tat for Vito's shooting. Couldn't have been Tat's sentiment. Contrast it with the movie's opening scene. Bonasera wants Vito to kill the two boys who ruined his daughter. "I ask you for justice," pleads Bonasera. "That is not justice," Vito replies. "Your daughter is still alive." Well, Vito was still alive after the shooting, but Bruno was dead.
Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu, E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu... E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
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Re: Question on Vito and Barzini
[Re: Turnbull]
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03/11/08 03:59 PM
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"Is vengeance gonna bring your son back to you? Or my boy to me? I forgo the vengeance of my son..."I FORGO the vengence of my son. That line alone translates that in Vito's mind the killing of Bruno Tattaglia did NOT cancel out the attempt on Vito's own life, nor did it cancel out the taking of Sonny's life. Because if he felt that it did, then he would have never said "I FORGO" the vengence. Which makes me believe even more so that Tattaglia would never have been the one to agree that the attempt on Vito's life cancelled out the killing of his son. Tattaglia lost a son, Vito lost a son, but yet Tattaglia is even more worried that as time goes by and Vito's position becomes stronger, that he may attempt any individual vendetta for the killing of Santino. So if Tattaglia was really the one who originally agreed that the killing of his son cancelled out the attempt on Vito, than he surely wouldn't have been worried about Vito seeking revenge for the death of Sonny, because in truth, their both losing sons in the war cancelled out each other. So it had to have been Barzini all along. 
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Re: Question on Vito and Barzini
[Re: olivant]
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03/12/08 04:49 PM
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Right.
I think maybe Vito knew that it was NOT Tattaglia all along, but wasn't 100% sure who his hidden adversary was until the meeting.
"A man in my position cannot afford to be made to look ridiculous!"
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