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Re: Presidential Primaries 2008 [Re: dontomasso] #479357
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 Originally Posted By: dontomasso
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Clinton tells women to vote for her because she is a woman. Is Hillary there because she is a woman? NO, because she was a first lady?



ALlegedly she is a woman. Has anyone checked?


That's how Bill got his Johnson bent.


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Re: Presidential Primaries 2008 [Re: pizzaboy] #479497
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Imus is not a Hillary fan. He calls her Satan, but he had some interesting observation/comments about her political life and some of the factors surrounding her campaign.
1. She carpetbagged her way into the NY Senate (the only office she has ever held). Imus said she had no competition in the race, her opponent Rick Lazlo was a used car salesman.
2. Supporters point to her experience as First Lady makes her a good candidate. Imus said by that logic, Joe Gibb's wife should have taken over as head coach of the Washington Redskins.


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Re: Presidential Primaries 2008 [Re: MaryCas] #479498
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Gee, I would think Imus should like Hillary. Imus made racially incentive remarks that got him fired. Hillary had Geraldine Ferraro do the same thing recently.

I'd like to hear Imus' explanation as to how Hillary gave Guiliani cancer, thus "carpetbagging" her way to the 2000 NY Senate election over an inferior opponent once Rudy bowed out.

On second thought, I'd rather just as soon not waste any more time pontificating on the thoughts of an idiot like Imus.

Re: Presidential Primaries 2008 [Re: MaryCas] #479502
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 Originally Posted By: MaryCas
Imus said by that logic, Joe Gibb's wife should have taken over as head coach of the Washington Redskins.


I bet she can win as many games as Jim Zorn this year. \:\)

Re: Presidential Primaries 2008 [Re: klydon1] #479524
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Well, she actually LIVED in the White House, met with foreign dignitaries, hosted dinners, traveled with the President, and so on. I believe that First Lady gives her some experience, albeit not what they're making it out to be.

On the other hand, what candidate DOES have the experience that is needed to be President? I don't think anyone in the WORLD does.


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Re: Presidential Primaries 2008 [Re: Sicilian Babe] #479563
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 Originally Posted By: Sicilian Babe
Well, she actually LIVED in the White House, met with foreign dignitaries, hosted dinners, traveled with the President, and so on. I believe that First Lady gives her some experience, albeit not what they're making it out to be.

On the other hand, what candidate DOES have the experience that is needed to be President? I don't think anyone in the WORLD does.


I guess the First Lady would know the protocols and what to expect when meeting dignitaries. But she sure isn't privy to what goes on in those cabinet meetings and the face-to-face, hardline talks with leaders of other countries. Good question. Who would be exposed to what the President really faces? Top advisors, Sec'y of State, some Vice Presidents, Senators from Illinois ? ;). Oh, this is sure some fun times to follow politics.


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Re: Presidential Primaries 2008 [Re: MaryCas] #479567
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I guess the sitting vice president would have the most "experience," providing that he wasn't a trigger happy moron serving under an illiterate, like the present day dynamic duo.


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Re: Presidential Primaries 2008 [Re: pizzaboy] #479568
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 Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
I guess the sitting vice president would have the most "experience," providing that he wasn't a trigger happy moron serving under an illiterate, like the present day dynamic duo.


I have to tell you, that may rank up there as one my favorite posts ever.


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Re: Presidential Primaries 2008 [Re: Sicilian Babe] #479571
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 Originally Posted By: Sicilian Babe
 Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
I guess the sitting vice president would have the most "experience," providing that he wasn't a trigger happy moron serving under an illiterate, like the present day dynamic duo.


I have to tell you, that may rank up there as one my favorite posts ever.


It's a Bronx thing.


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Re: Presidential Primaries 2008 [Re: pizzaboy] #479573
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That's right, paisan.

Now that you mention it, do you really think that VPOTUS gets serious West Wing time? Is he truly involved in those meetings? Or is that something we are led to believe? I DO believe that Cheney is the one running the country, but has that been true of other VPs?


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Re: Presidential Primaries 2008 [Re: Sicilian Babe] #479576
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I guess it depends on how big you are on conspiracies and such. For instance, I tend to believe that LBJ had a lot of power within the government. George HW Bush, as well, because of his CIA involvement.


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Re: Presidential Primaries 2008 [Re: pizzaboy] #479580
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Yet you didn't mention Dan Quayle? ;\)


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Re: Presidential Primaries 2008 [Re: Sicilian Babe] #479581
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You say potatoe I say po-ta-to.


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Re: Presidential Primaries 2008 [Re: pizzaboy] #479583
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You are on quite the roll today, PB.


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Re: Presidential Primaries 2008 [Re: pizzaboy] #479584
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 Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
I guess the sitting vice president would have the most "experience," providing that he wasn't a trigger happy moron serving under an illiterate, like the present day dynamic duo.




I stated once already that the more I acquire experience, the less value I place on it.

Re: Presidential Primaries 2008 [Re: Sicilian Babe] #479589
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 Originally Posted By: Sicilian Babe
You are on quite the roll today, PB.


Yeah, I'm really on today. Too much caffeine.


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Re: Presidential Primaries 2008 [Re: pizzaboy] #479591
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I bet Hillary was privy to alot of the meetings going on in the Oval Office. Except the ones of course when Monica was there.


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Re: Presidential Primaries 2008 [Re: Mignon] #479602
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I am really enjoying this process because at every turn the conventional wisdom has been comletely wrong, and the pundits just continue to pontificate as if they knew a dman thing more than we do.

Lets see.

1. Giulani was America's mayor and had the best chance to beat Romney with Romney spending to much money in the early states, and Giuliani emerging victorious in Florida. McCain was dead in the water.

2. Hillary Clinton would blow wveryone away and have it locked up after New Hampshire.

3. Barack Obama would win New Hampshire and lock it up.

4. Barack Obama would lock it up by Super Tuesday.

5. Hillary CLinton regained the momentum and would win it al if she tok Ohio and Texas.

And Now... McCain is a shoe in because the Dems will implode.


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Re: Presidential Primaries 2008 [Re: pizzaboy] #479606
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 Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
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You are on quite the roll today, PB.


Yeah, I'm really on today. Too much caffeine.


And I thought it was the clams. \:p


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Re: Presidential Primaries 2008 [Re: Sicilian Babe] #479982
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Says it all, don't ya' think?


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Re: Presidential Primaries 2008 [Re: pizzaboy] #479986
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 Originally Posted By: pizzaboy


Says it all, don't ya' think?


Yeah....he can't read!

Re: Presidential Primaries 2008 [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #479992
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14 more delegates for Obama yesterday (the majority of Edwards' take in Iowa and California).


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Re: Presidential Primaries 2008 [Re: pizzaboy] #480082
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Anyone read anything about Obama's pastor and the things he has said? What's the deal?


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Re: Presidential Primaries 2008 [Re: Sicilian Babe] #480086
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He has made quite a few statements that are very intensely delivered and do cite America as variations of a villain. Other statements he's made certainly can be interpreted as demeaning America.

"Black women are being raped daily in Africa. One white girl from Alabama gets drunk at a graduation trip to Aruba, goes off and gives it up while in a foreign country and that stays in the news for months."

"White America got their wake-up call after 9-11. White America and the Western world came to realize people of color had not gone away, faded in the woodwork, or just disappeared as the Great White West kept on its merry way of ignoring black concerns."

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Re: Presidential Primaries 2008 [Re: olivant] #480092
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Pennsylvania is coming up so soon. I think Clinton may win it. That is very unfortunate. I am really pulling for Obama in this election. He needs to win the PA Primary.


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Anyone ever wondered if Patrick and DoubleJ are one in the same?

BTW - Who the fuck in their right minds would vote for Hillary?

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If Obama was viewed as having a platform of unifying America, this guy's comments can serve to polarize. It could be the toe-stub that Hillary has been waiting for. She's playing it cool now to see if the Reverend's comments will hurt Obama. It may take on a life of it's own and erode Obama's support. She can just sit back and let it happen.


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Re: Presidential Primaries 2008 [Re: MaryCas] #480109
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If that does happen, MC, and I hope it won't, I think it hurts Hillary even more with black voters, who are resenting her more and more by the day.

If she gets the nomination and they get pissed off and stay home, can you say President McCain?


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Re: Presidential Primaries 2008 [Re: Patrick] #480112
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 Originally Posted By: Patrick
Pennsylvania is coming up so soon. I think Clinton may win it. That is very unfortunate. I am really pulling for Obama in this election. He needs to win the PA Primary.


Hillary will very likely win PA by a comfortable margin, barring something unusual. She's been leading in the polls here since the primaries started. She has had much more of a presence here too.

I live in and travel throughout PA as part of my work, and I get the impression that her campaign is very well organized. The openings of her local campaign offices are well publicized and feature big names, and her appearances are enthusiastic and well received. Obama has had some visits to the Keystone State, but his ads emphasize voter registration as he's looking to maximize the young voters. I believe he's in State College today. Chelsea has been making appearances at many of the universities and colleges to try to capture some of the young vote.

The primary is more than a month away, and I'm sure things will heat up in the weeks to follow.

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Re: Presidential Primaries 2008 [Re: klydon1] #480115
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Well, having someone that you've been linked with publicly saying things like "God damn America" and that our past actions caused September 11th can't be good for your campaign.


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