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Re: Presidential Primaries 2008
[Re: Sicilian Babe]
#480415
03/18/08 08:16 PM
03/18/08 08:16 PM
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Saladbar
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Well, having someone that you've been linked with publicly saying things like "God damn America" and that our past actions caused September 11th can't be good for your campaign. If people want to believe that Obama himself is running around despising his own mother among all the other "white' people because he goes to a church where a few particularly incindiary sound bites from the preacher were publicized then they are going to be predisposed not to trust Obama anyway. We can fault him all we like for not recognizing that Wright would be a liability. But Obama has done the right thing. He has not repudiated the importance of his relationship with Mr. Wright, but has made it clear that he does not share all of Mr. Wright's political beliefs.
"Patriotism is supporting your country all the time and your government when it deserves it"
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Re: Presidential Primaries 2008
[Re: Saladbar]
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03/18/08 08:41 PM
03/18/08 08:41 PM
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Posts: 17,300 New York
Sicilian Babe
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Well, she actually LIVED in the White House, met with foreign dignitaries, hosted dinners, traveled with the President, and so on. I believe that First Lady gives her some experience, albeit not what they're making it out to be. Then Laura Bush should run for president. She probably would have done a better job than her husband.
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Re: Presidential Primaries 2008
[Re: Sicilian Babe]
#480482
03/19/08 07:49 AM
03/19/08 07:49 AM
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Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 13,145 East Tennessee
ronnierocketAGO
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Well, she actually LIVED in the White House, met with foreign dignitaries, hosted dinners, traveled with the President, and so on. I believe that First Lady gives her some experience, albeit not what they're making it out to be. Then Laura Bush should run for president. She probably would have done a better job than her husband. Probably the only figure within the White House that isn't corrupt or full of bullshit, or just outright incompetent. But really, is First Lady really political experience? Does hosting tea parties and doing school readings amount to being a firm Commander-In-Chief?
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Re: Presidential Primaries 2008
[Re: klydon1]
#480483
03/19/08 07:54 AM
03/19/08 07:54 AM
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ronnierocketAGO
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The latest state wide polls in PA show that Hillary has widened her lead to 53-43.
Obama's speech today was well delivered, but the fact is that he HAD to give it to explain himself and put out a potential fire. When you're explaining yourself, you're not swimming, but just trying to stay afloat.
By the way, while driving yesterday, I did something I never usually do...I listened to about 15 minutes of Hannity's take on the Reverend Wright issue. His rhetoric would be laughable if it weren't for the fact that lots of people buy into his crap. Well, its Pennsylvania. They want a Republican President, may it be McCain or Hillary, so I don't care at this rate really. Philly not winning a title must have something to do with it, I guess. The speech was well-done, and powerful. Yeah he had to give it, but better to DO IT NOW instead of not addressing it. "Checkers" saved Nixon's political career, and gave to voters in 1952 a human face. Ask Dukakis what happens when you DON'T address an issue. So SB, which Republican candidate you prefer this year: McCain or Hillary?
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Re: Presidential Primaries 2008
[Re: ronnierocketAGO]
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03/19/08 10:29 AM
03/19/08 10:29 AM
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pizzaboy
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Obama fully expects to lose Pennsylvania, he has from the get go.
If he can swing just 40% of the vote, because delegates are all relative, she won't "net gain" more than a handful of votes on the night.
Then it heads to Indiana, then back towards the south (North Carolina, West Virginia, Kentucky), where he's fully expected to win.
If it goes to the convention, he'll probably have a lead of at least 150-175 delegates. Although it's not the magic total of 2025, it's still a substantial enough lead for the Democratic Party to do the right thing and give him the nomination.
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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Re: Presidential Primaries 2008
[Re: dontomasso]
#480641
03/19/08 05:01 PM
03/19/08 05:01 PM
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War_Time_Consigliere
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Once Michigan and Fla are resolved the superdelegates will meet and ordain Obama. You read it here first. You're not a war-time Consigliere, dontomasso. Things might get rough with the move-out we're trying in Iraq. America will have 28 yrs of Bush-Clinton and like it.
Last edited by War_Time_Consigliere; 03/19/08 05:01 PM.
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Re: Presidential Primaries 2008
[Re: klydon1]
#480645
03/19/08 05:06 PM
03/19/08 05:06 PM
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BDuff
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[/quote] Whether the eventual nominee is Obama or Clinton, I don't think McCain has a good shot at this point of carrying PA. Philly hasn't won a championship since 1983 unless you count Villanova in '85. I think you're on to something there.  [/quote] Why did you have to remind me? 
"When my time comes, tell me, will I stand up?" Paulie "Walnuts" Gaultiere - The Sopranos
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Re: Presidential Primaries 2008
[Re: ronnierocketAGO]
#480668
03/19/08 06:16 PM
03/19/08 06:16 PM
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Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 8,536 West Chester, PA
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The latest state wide polls in PA show that Hillary has widened her lead to 53-43.
Obama's speech today was well delivered, but the fact is that he HAD to give it to explain himself and put out a potential fire. When you're explaining yourself, you're not swimming, but just trying to stay afloat.
By the way, while driving yesterday, I did something I never usually do...I listened to about 15 minutes of Hannity's take on the Reverend Wright issue. His rhetoric would be laughable if it weren't for the fact that lots of people buy into his crap. Well, its Pennsylvania. They want a Republican President, may it be McCain or Hillary, so I don't care at this rate really. Philly not winning a title must have something to do with it, I guess. We do not want a Republican President. I'd be shocked if PA went Republican in November.
"After every dark night, there's a bright day right after that. No matter how hard it gets, stick your chest out, keep your head up, and handle it." -Tupac Shakur
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Re: Presidential Primaries 2008
[Re: Patrick]
#480806
03/20/08 06:17 PM
03/20/08 06:17 PM
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Posts: 15,030 Texas
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The latest state wide polls in PA show that Hillary has widened her lead to 53-43.
Obama's speech today was well delivered, but the fact is that he HAD to give it to explain himself and put out a potential fire. When you're explaining yourself, you're not swimming, but just trying to stay afloat.
By the way, while driving yesterday, I did something I never usually do...I listened to about 15 minutes of Hannity's take on the Reverend Wright issue. His rhetoric would be laughable if it weren't for the fact that lots of people buy into his crap. Well, its Pennsylvania. They want a Republican President, may it be McCain or Hillary, so I don't care at this rate really. Philly not winning a title must have something to do with it, I guess. We do not want a Republican President. I'd be shocked if PA went Republican in November. Me too. PA went Dem in 2000 & 2004.
"Generosity. That was my first mistake." "Experience must be our only guide; reason may mislead us." "Instagram is Twitter for people who can't read."
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