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Re: Movies You Just Watched Discussion
[Re: olivant]
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04/07/08 08:26 PM
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I love the 300. But it's coloring (if you can call it that) seems to be different from other movies. The colors are pretty dark as if my television's contrast is skewed in that direction. Does anyone know what technique they used? No idea mate. Though I have two serious problems with 300, of which even its fans seem to give me victory on. (1) The domestic wife sub-plot. Does anyone actually even like it, or was moved by it? Its like Zach Snyder was trying to placate the women with something to watch outside of the beefcake fighting...which makes me wonder, what sort of gal willing goes to see 300 anyway? Really, that sort of "creative invention" that completely fails from Snyder's end gives me great worry for his WATCHMEN movie. Alan Fucking Moore doesn't need such soap opera nonsense. (2) Too much slow-motion. The idea of slow-motion is to emphasis a a special cinema moment, but too much ruins subsequent magic to be gleaned from such a technique. Yea yeah I know, Snyder was trying to make some scenes capture a comic book frame, but it completely saps out the great energy from the climax, a hero's last stroke humiliating his enemy's divinehood, is really fucked out of its mighty power because we the audience by this point have become immune to it. BTW, anyone notice how two "man classic" movies loved by frat dudes everywhere like FIGHT CLUB* and 300 have such incredibly-open homosexuality overtones? This can't be a coincidence. *=Hell, author Chuck Palahnuik is homosexual. Nope, no coincidence I'm sure...not that it really matters.
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Re: Movies You Just Watched Discussion
[Re: Longneck]
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04/07/08 08:37 PM
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I've only seen LOCK, STOCK once and it wasn't nearly the show SNATCH was. Although I do have to revisit it again. I find Lock, Stock, and 2 smoking barrels a billion times better than Snatch "wasn't nearly the show SNATCH was" What does that even mean anyway? Both are movies, not shows. 
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Re: Movies You Just Watched Discussion
[Re: olivant]
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04/07/08 10:15 PM
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300 was produced in part to capture the patronage of the video game generation, so I am not surprised at its comic book, homo-erotic, and slow-mo, or skip-frame features. Since I'm a member of "that" generation, I'm pissed if they were trying to cater to me. Incidently, there hasn't been...one...good...movie based off a video game. Maybe my problem is that after seeing most of Brian DePalma's work, whatever you like his work or not, you must admit...the fucker knows how to use slow motion to its most potentcy.
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Re: Movies You Just Watched Discussion
[Re: Irishman12]
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04/11/08 01:25 AM
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MR WOODCOCK (2007) ... you kidding me? Tried too hard, but failed miserably. And nice name, by the way.  Horrible. D+HAIRSPRAY (2007)... I was worried going into this one, being a big John Waters fan and all of the original-- but great! Didn't think John Travolta would pull it off, but he did just fine. Music was great! B
I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey!  lol Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin My DVDs | Facebook | Godfather Filming Locations
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Re: Movies You Just Watched Discussion
[Re: J Geoff]
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04/11/08 10:56 AM
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MR WOODCOCK (2007) ... you kidding me? Tried too hard, but failed miserably. And nice name, by the way.  Horrible. D+HAIRSPRAY (2007)... I was worried going into this one, being a big John Waters fan and all of the original-- but great! Didn't think John Travolta would pull it off, but he did just fine. Music was great! B Yeah, MR. WOODCOCK was a waste of time. Really, with SOUTHLAND TALES and yet another juvenile (terrible) comedy, does Sean William Scott even have a career anymore? If anything, WOODCOCK's gimmick is based on exploiting Billy Bob Thornton's hard-ass cinema persona, which is amount to ANALYZE THIS with DeNiro's mob movie work, or MICKEY BLUE EYES w/ James Caan/GODFATHER, and so forth....and they all were lame. In fact, the only such capitalization of such stunt casting that actually worked which I could think off the top of my head was probably THE FRESHMAN. MR. WOODCOCK (2007) - **As for the HAIRSPRAY remake,I prefer the Waters original simply because there is something punk in its original presentation, and more sincere, since its an independent homosexual filmmaker usually working on the outskirts of Hollywood making a small picture about outsiders. It's prime John Waters material, and he's good at it. The remake, with all the gloss stink of Broadway and the big-studio production and money...is surprisingly good, with credit must be given to the casting of Travolta, Christopher "God Broke the Mold" Walken, and newcomer Nikki Blonsky. Plus, nice to see James "Cyclops" Marsden be given a decent part outside of a superhero picture. Though with the Broadway opening for CRY BABY, will Waters become the new Romero/Carpenter in being a creative remake tap for Hollywood? How about SERIAL MOM the musical? Shit, that would be fun... HAIRSPRAY (2007) - ***1/2
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Re: Movies You Just Watched Discussion
[Re: Yogi Barrabbas]
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04/11/08 12:26 PM
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IN THE NAME OF THE KING: A DUNGEON SIEGE TALE  (First Viewing) Well, I survived my second Uwe Boll film but barely. This ran a little too long and was basically Uwe Boll's LORD OF THE RINGS flick. I'm still scratching my head at how he ensembles these casts? You'd think by now name actors (such as Jason Statham, Ray Liotta, Burt Reynolds, Matthew Lillard, Leelee Sobieski, John Rhys-Davies, Claire Forlani, and Kristanna Loken) would know better than to sign up for a Uwe Boll film.
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Re: Movies You Just Watched Discussion
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04/11/08 04:41 PM
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CLOVERFIELD  1/2 (First Viewing) After hearing all of the bad reviews and comments people had about this film I rather enjoyed it considering the circumstances. It wasn't great but I think they did right by keeping the runtime low (about 84 minutes). I just know the "BLAIR WITCH style directing" won't go over with a lot and while it times it was frustrating (turning away from the monsters in some places).
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Re: Movies You Just Watched Discussion
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04/12/08 10:21 AM
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21 ***1/2
Even if you haven't read Ben Mezrich's non-fiction work, Bringing Down the House, it isn't very hard to see where 21 is headed in terms of plot and character arc not ten minutes after the opening credits. This is your standard rags-to-riches seduction, a morality tale where the highs corrupt the marble faun before he finds himself again and re-chisels himself into form.
The acting, screenplay and direction were probably just okay, but in this case, okay was good enough. The last act got a little laughable, but since I knew where it was headed anyway by that time, the movie had successfully lowered my expectations, and I was primed to enjoy it. I wasn't expecting anything remotely realistic or original. I was just waiting for the payoffs and I was surprisingly okay with that.
But I'm getting ahead of myself. Like Mezrich's book, the film is based on the true story about a group of MIT students who took Vegas for boatloads of money simply by playing a little blackjack. These kids had a totally unfair advantage against the big, mean casinos, however and they exploited that advantage like the vile human beings they were. They had brains and they dared to use them: by developing a system of counting cards, they took millions from these places.
I never understood why counting cards is illegal in casinos. What's the casino's argument exactly? You're not supposed to use your brain to figure the odds! They post odds all the time to lure betters, but gamblers can't use those odds against them, eh? Somehow, we live with this rule. But this is the story about a group of people who didn't.
Jim Sturgess does a solid job of playing the goofy, earnest American, Ben Campbell. He's desperately trying to get into Harvard Medical School but he doesn't have the cash flow. If only he can get that scholarship that would pay his way. Uh-oh, I think we have established Ben's need of money. I wonder what happened next...?
Kevin Spacey plays an A-hole primo here and it's a beautiful thing to sit back and enjoy. He gets to play these kid's seducer this time and he's great at it.
Maybe this is just personal, but I think movies about gambling are fun and the counting card element really gives the blackjack sequences some juice. It's one of the few things about the film that I haven't really seen in another movie before, not the way it's portrayed here anyway. This here flick may not be Rounders (which is near-perfect), but it's a hell of a lot better than Shade (which is God-awful). No, it's somewhere in between, but the kind of in-between movie you'd maybe settle on if you were surfing through the cable channels. Oh, this is the scene where the fat nerdy kid makes a joke. I like him. Now you mix in the MIT underdog angle and we're talking Chucky Cheese slices of merriment! No one's easier to root for than a nerd, especially if that nerd looks like Kate Bosworth.
How a movie makes you feel when it ends is huge for me. It can make or break a movie and for me it made 21. I'm not talking the third-act plot goings-ons. I'm talking about the last scene, the way the film was structured from the start and the way the writers chose to close the story. This one made me smile.
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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Re: Movies You Just Watched Discussion
[Re: pizzaboy]
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04/12/08 05:10 PM
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P2  1/2 (First Viewing) I'm really glad to see Rachel Nichols' career blossoming. I believe this is her first starring role and she continues to grow as a young actress. I wasn't quite sure how good this film would turn out being that the story takes place solely in a parking garage but they used different levels so it worked fine.
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Re: Movies You Just Watched Discussion
[Re: Irishman12]
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04/12/08 08:08 PM
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I believe this is her first starring role... You believe? Check IMDb, man. ...and she continues to grow as a young actress. She continues to grow, but this is her first film? Errrrr, what? (Sorry, I meant fucking what? (I should probably add [BadWord] to that, too.)) I wasn't quite sure how good this film would turn out being that the story takes place solely in a parking garage but they used different levels so it worked fine. What levels? Stop being as lazy as a fucking moronic little [BadWord], and put your film-watching to some use, instead of having a shitty little hobbie. PB's review above and before yours is so much more specific; it makes you want to read it, and it's about as ten times as long as yours; yours is three lines long and I only read it so I could take the fucking piss. Seriously man, get a fucking life, or hang yourself. EDIT: Those last three words weren't meant. Everything else was. Take a look at yourself and your existence on this planet. If you come out with anything positive, then I very much envy your ignorance.
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...dot com bold typeface rhetoric. You go clickety click and get your head split. 'The hell you look like on a message board Discussing whether or not the Brother is hardcore?
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Re: Movies You Just Watched Discussion
[Re: SC]
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04/13/08 04:28 AM
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Geez, Mick, thats heavy handed even for you.
Chill! Heavy handed it was, but besides ignoring my advice of taking Tums to cure those ulcers, I think he is trying to give some constructive criticism. Sure, I've been a total dick to Irish for years. Everyone knows that, and no one will disagree with that fact. But at a few times, when I wasn't trying to find the smallest little shit to get pissed off over, I tried to give advice. Sometime back, fuck if I remember which movie, I wrote this review and Capo over at FCM complained of how instead of talking about the movie itself, I was bitching about how it wasn't some Michael Bay travesty.... I disagreed, saying how I was trying to compare why this was good, and why that sucked my balls. But I got to thinking, and I thought Capo had a point. He apologized, but really he didn't need to. He was giving me constructive advice, and unless I'm mistaken, we respect each other's cinema opinions, and respectfully disagree....whatever its DePalma's SCARFACE (a film he hates, but its one of my favorites) or RAMBO 2/3(how he liked them, but hated the recent 4th RAMBO? Fuck if I know)... Sincere advice can be taken or left for the garbage man on wednesdays.
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Re: Movies You Just Watched Discussion
[Re: pizzaboy]
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04/13/08 04:41 AM
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21 ***1/2
Even if you haven't read Ben Mezrich's non-fiction work, Bringing Down the House, it isn't very hard to see where 21 is headed in terms of plot and character arc not ten minutes after the opening credits. This is your standard rags-to-riches seduction, a morality tale where the highs corrupt the marble faun before he finds himself again and re-chisels himself into form.
The acting, screenplay and direction were probably just okay, but in this case, okay was good enough. The last act got a little laughable, but since I knew where it was headed anyway by that time, the movie had successfully lowered my expectations, and I was primed to enjoy it. I wasn't expecting anything remotely realistic or original. I was just waiting for the payoffs and I was surprisingly okay with that.
But I'm getting ahead of myself. Like Mezrich's book, the film is based on the true story about a group of MIT students who took Vegas for boatloads of money simply by playing a little blackjack. These kids had a totally unfair advantage against the big, mean casinos, however and they exploited that advantage like the vile human beings they were. They had brains and they dared to use them: by developing a system of counting cards, they took millions from these places.
I never understood why counting cards is illegal in casinos. What's the casino's argument exactly? You're not supposed to use your brain to figure the odds! They post odds all the time to lure betters, but gamblers can't use those odds against them, eh? Somehow, we live with this rule. But this is the story about a group of people who didn't.
Jim Sturgess does a solid job of playing the goofy, earnest American, Ben Campbell. He's desperately trying to get into Harvard Medical School but he doesn't have the cash flow. If only he can get that scholarship that would pay his way. Uh-oh, I think we have established Ben's need of money. I wonder what happened next...?
Kevin Spacey plays an A-hole primo here and it's a beautiful thing to sit back and enjoy. He gets to play these kid's seducer this time and he's great at it.
Maybe this is just personal, but I think movies about gambling are fun and the counting card element really gives the blackjack sequences some juice. It's one of the few things about the film that I haven't really seen in another movie before, not the way it's portrayed here anyway. This here flick may not be Rounders (which is near-perfect), but it's a hell of a lot better than Shade (which is God-awful). No, it's somewhere in between, but the kind of in-between movie you'd maybe settle on if you were surfing through the cable channels. Oh, this is the scene where the fat nerdy kid makes a joke. I like him. Now you mix in the MIT underdog angle and we're talking Chucky Cheese slices of merriment! No one's easier to root for than a nerd, especially if that nerd looks like Kate Bosworth.
How a movie makes you feel when it ends is huge for me. It can make or break a movie and for me it made 21. I'm not talking the third-act plot goings-ons. I'm talking about the last scene, the way the film was structured from the start and the way the writers chose to close the story. This one made me smile.
I must admit PB, until your review, I had no fucking interest what so EVER to see 21. Pretty metrosexuals being threatened by Laurence "Morpheus" Fishburne? Shit, I probably would have hoped he would have given them a "warning" this side of CASINO. I would have bitched about Kevin Spacey's seemingly lack of interest in 21, as if he was jobbing another paycheck...until I found out via IMDB that he is a producer. Maybe its just the advertizing campaign that makes him look so insignificant...Why do I answer my own questions? But now PB, I might check out 21 sometime. Not in theatres now, and not first-run on DVD...maybe I watch it during a bargain bin special rental orgy. Then again, maybe I'm being so cautious with 21 because I saw the History Channel documentary on that book, and really....unless its a Scorsese or a Fincher working such a true tale, Hollywood usually washes out the mundance intricities of true life in order to present to us all yet another "Based on a True Story," or 20% awesome truth, 80% banal bullshit.
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