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Re: Tessio Death?
[Re: jeff]
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05/04/08 09:10 PM
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I think you're right about Tessio. He was a traitor but unlike, say, Carlo or Moe Green, we didn't see him overtly doing violence or disrespecting Michael. So, I'm guessing, FFC believed that it would be somewhat jarring to show his actual, violent death on screen. Besides, there was plenty enough death in that scene. Some people here have guessed that Tessio was "taken for a ride" and shot, quick and neat, in some deserted place, probably dumped there. Garroting would have been too prolonged and painful for him--note that even at the end, Cicci treats him with respect: "Excuse me, Sal...."
Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu, E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu... E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
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Re: Tessio Death?
[Re: Turnbull]
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05/05/08 01:28 AM
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Bruno's death was not shown
 He - (Simón Bolívar) - was shaken by the overwhelming revelation that the headlong race between his misfortunes and his dreams was at that moment reaching the finishing line. The rest was darkness. "Damn it," He sighed. "How will I ever get out of this labyrinth!" So what’s the labyrinth? That’s the mystery isn’t it? Is the labyrinth living or dying? Which is he trying to escape - the world, or, the end of it?
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Re: Tessio Death?
[Re: Turnbull]
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05/05/08 11:44 AM
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I think you're right about Tessio. He was a traitor but unlike, say, Carlo or Moe Green, we didn't see him overtly doing violence or disrespecting Michael. So, I'm guessing, FFC believed that it would be somewhat jarring to show his actual, violent death on screen. Besides, there was plenty enough death in that scene. Some people here have guessed that Tessio was "taken for a ride" and shot, quick and neat, in some deserted place, probably dumped there. Garroting would have been too prolonged and painful for him--note that even at the end, Cicci treats him with respect: "Excuse me, Sal...." Good point TB. Garroting is a bit less respectful than being executed by a gun. I imagine he took two shots to the head, got a pair of cement boots and slept with the fishes in the East River.
"Io sono stanco, sono imbigliato, and I wan't everyone here to know, there ain't gonna be no trouble from me..Don Corleone..Cicc' a port!"
"I stood in the courtroom like a fool."
"I am Constanza: Lord of the idiots."
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Re: Tessio Death?
[Re: Sicilian Babe]
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05/05/08 12:21 PM
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And if you think about it, you really DON'T see Fredo's death. I much prefer it that way, too. In one of the books I read (Lebo's??), it claims that the scene was shot two different ways: a closeup shot of Neri executing Fredo, which Richard Bright wanted Coppola to use, and the long shot which was ultimately used. Still, if the print does exist, I'd like to see it one day.
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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Re: Tessio Death?
[Re: pizzaboy]
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05/05/08 02:37 PM
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Still, if the print does exist, I'd like to see it one day. PB, if we could make a catalog of all the scenes that Lebo and other mention that were shot but not used, and if we could retrieve the film from Paramount's vaults...  I'd start with the scene (shown in a couple of stills in Lebo's book) of Michael, in gangster mufti, gunning down Fabrizio.
Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu, E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu... E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
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Re: Tessio Death?
[Re: pizzaboy]
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05/10/08 11:18 AM
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And if you think about it, you really DON'T see Fredo's death. I much prefer it that way, too. In one of the books I read (Lebo's??), it claims that the scene was shot two different ways: a closeup shot of Neri executing Fredo, which Richard Bright wanted Coppola to use, and the long shot which was ultimately used. Still, if the print does exist, I'd like to see it one day. I like that you don't see it, but I love the timing...Fredo is in the middle of the Hail Mary, and if you recite the words when his voice cuts off, it goes "Now, and at the hour of our death. Amen." BANG. I do this whenever I watch GFII.
"Io sono stanco, sono imbigliato, and I wan't everyone here to know, there ain't gonna be no trouble from me..Don Corleone..Cicc' a port!"
"I stood in the courtroom like a fool."
"I am Constanza: Lord of the idiots."
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Re: Tessio Death?
[Re: dontomasso]
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05/10/08 11:24 AM
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And if you think about it, you really DON'T see Fredo's death. I much prefer it that way, too. In one of the books I read (Lebo's??), it claims that the scene was shot two different ways: a closeup shot of Neri executing Fredo, which Richard Bright wanted Coppola to use, and the long shot which was ultimately used. Still, if the print does exist, I'd like to see it one day. "Now, and at the hour of our death. Amen." BANG. I do this whenever I watch GFII. You and a million other Catholic Godfather fanatics. 
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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Re: Tessio Death?
[Re: dontomasso]
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05/10/08 11:28 AM
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And if so doesn't that disprove the "Tessio was always smarter" concept? When you know you're going to your grave, intelligence goes out the window.
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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Re: Tessio Death?
[Re: pizzaboy]
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05/10/08 01:14 PM
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And if so doesn't that disprove the "Tessio was always smarter" concept? When you know you're going to your grave, intelligence goes out the window. ..and shit comes out your ass.
The hero and the coward both feel the same thing, but the hero uses his fear, projects it onto his opponent, while the coward runs. It's the same thing, fear, but it's what you do with it that matters. Cus D'Amato
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Re: Tessio Death?
[Re: dontomasso]
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05/11/08 09:44 PM
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Did Tessio really think Tom could get him off the hook for old times' sake?... He didn't. He knew he was caught, and was getting what he had coming. He also knew it was 'only business' just like what he had planned for Michael. But he has absolutely nothing to lose at that point...and when you know you are literally moments from death...you may as well come up with even a half-hearted plea for mercy, no matter how useless. Tessio caught on immediately, and in the end took it like a man. Thereby NOT disproving the 'Tessio was always smarter" concept. Apple
A wise and frugal government, which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned - this is the sum of good government.
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Re: Tessio Death?
[Re: olivant]
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05/23/08 01:52 PM
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While the street thugs of the Corleone family could be expected to behave so nonchalantly, one might expect better of a well-educated person such as Tom. Tom may have felt differently, but it was the wrong time for him to show sentiment or feeling--it might make him appear "weak" at a time when the family's and the entire NY Mafia's structure were in flux.
Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu, E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu... E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
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Re: Tessio Death?
[Re: Turnbull]
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05/23/08 02:03 PM
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While the street thugs of the Corleone family could be expected to behave so nonchalantly, one might expect better of a well-educated person such as Tom. Tom may have felt differently, but it was the wrong time for him to show sentiment or feeling--it might make him appear "weak" at a time when the family's and the entire NY Mafia's structure were in flux. IMO Tom rarely showed emotion. When Woltz flipped out on him at dinner, he replied with a nonchalant "thank you for a pleasant evening". When Soluzzo had him and said he'd killed Don Vito, Tom barely flinched. I think he was well versed in keeping his emotions in check and to himself.
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