LLC - Absolutely NO NEED for the first part of your post. This discussion has kept on course, those involved have remained both civil and respecful throughout, and there has been some legitimate and valid points made all around........all without any name calling, labeling and/or mudslinging. The second part of your post is very reasonable, intelligent and you've made some very interesting points that no doubt will inject some legitimate thought and discussion for all involved here. So let's remain mature and civil in continuing this discussion...continue with sharing some intelligent views... and do so without any labeling, name calling, etc.