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Re: How bout them Yankees!? (2008)
[Re: Sicilian Babe]
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08/06/08 09:35 AM
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I would rather watch the Yankees than any other team because there is always that magical possibility that somehow they manage that come from behind miracle that eludes other teams.
So what ever happen to...it's not over to it is over?.... It is only the sixth of August...from what I see.
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Re: How bout them Yankees!? (2008)
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08/06/08 09:54 AM
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6 1/2 games in the beginning of August is not a lot, especially when you factor in the wild card race, which is just beginning. Many teams have made the playoffs from greater deficits in less time, and they didn't have the resources of the Yankees.
Tampa Bay is young and unproven, and struggles on the road. Boston has lost its best player, and several of the 14 AL teams have been out of the race two months ago.
If Chamberlain comes back soon, I think they'll have to watch him closely. He hasn't thrown a lot of innings this year and whenever big, young hard throwers develop shoulder pain, it's something to monitor.
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Re: How bout them Yankees!? (2008)
[Re: MaryCas]
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08/07/08 02:06 PM
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Where is A-Roid on the stat sheet for BAvg. with men in scoring position. I know there was a time last year when he was 2nd to last. 2008 Situation Stats:.315 AVG .354 Bases Empty .276 Runners On .238 RISP .222 RISP w/2 Outs .143 Bases Loaded Mr Clutch.
I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey! lol Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin My DVDs | Facebook | Godfather Filming Locations
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Re: How bout them Yankees!? (2008)
[Re: Ice]
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08/07/08 05:52 PM
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Don Jasani
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While situational batting statistics can be used to gleam important data on whether a hitter can perform when the pressure is on, on base percentage, slugging percentage and OPS are much better indicators of a hitter's productivity and importance to the team. The number one job of a hitter is to get on base and thus prevent an out from being made. Although Jeter looks to be having a bit of an off year by his standards, his career OBP is .386, his career slugging percentage is .459 and his career OPS is .845 which are quite solid numbers.
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Re: How bout them Yankees!? (2008)
[Re: Don Jasani]
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08/07/08 06:56 PM
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You're right, of course, DJ. But I assure you that many, many scouts value what a guy does in the clutch (bases load and full count) more than any other statistic. Performing in the clutch is what sports is all about. It's what separates a guy like Michael Jordan from Kobe Bryant and Vince Carter types - those guys might be able to show M.J-like greatness in spurts, but it's what they do in the playoffs and clutch situations that is the truest gauge of greatness, IMO. If you need ONE crucial hit, in ONE crucial game,.. Derek Jeter is about as good as it gets.
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Re: How bout them Yankees!? (2008)
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08/09/08 09:40 PM
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Manny wants to be a Yankee
Having successfully orchestrated his divorce from Boston and his landing in with the Dodgers, Manny Ramirez would like to make life miserable for the Red Sox during the next few seasons. According to people who have spoken to the eccentric outfielder since he was dealt to L.A. on July 31, Ramirez wants to sign a free-agent deal with the Yankees this offseason and get 19 chances a year to punish Boston. "He wants to play for the Yankees so he can get at the Red Sox," a close friend of Ramirez's told The Post. Source: SI
I'd probably take him over Abreu next year. What do you guys think?
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Re: How bout them Yankees!? (2008)
[Re: Irishman12]
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08/10/08 03:32 AM
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then he will become just another guy who went to the Yankees and became a piece of shit. A-Rod was the greatest thing that had ever happened in baseball, and then he goes to the Yankees and becomes a chokejob-son of a bitch. plus, Manny is not that great of a guy either and that is not the Yankees' problem. their lineup should be enough already. Abreu is a HOF caliber hitter. but alright, in theory, that 3-4 punch with A-Rod and Manny could be this century version of Ruth/Gehrig. also from SI.com - MLB investigating Manny exit I've seen people saying that what he did in his final days in Boston is just as bad or even worse than using steroids, and that teams should give him the Bonds treatment next year. anyway, what would be of this guy if he couldn't hit?
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Re: How bout them Yankees!? (2008)
[Re: Irishman12]
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08/14/08 11:09 PM
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They still have a shot at the wild card No, they don't. Seriously, pack it in this year. This team not only doesn't want it, it would be ridiculous to think we could even compete right now with Boston, Tampa, or the White Sox. Although I still find it hilarious that on most blogs and sports news, the biggest concern/complaint is that our #9 hitter is terrible. Seriously? I mean, Melky Cabrera is the entire reason this team fails? Really? Are you guys watching the same games I am? Look at it this way. Hank's going to open up the warchest and go for Sabathia and another FA pitcher. Teixiera has already said he's going to opt for FA (he's a Boras client after all). Manny wants to come to the Yanks, as per his own lips. Hopefully Jeter rebounds a bit, Posada will be pseudo-healthy (who's an idiot now for being against the 4-year-deal? I took so much heat for wanting to let Posada go). Matsui or Damon can be moved to free up space. Abreu will be gone, hopefully declining arbitration, netting us two draft picks. Similarly, we'll offer Pudge arbitration, which he won't accept since Posada will take back the starting role. Hopefully Nady has matured into the player people hoped he'd be when he was a Mets farmhand. Unfortunately, we still have A-Rod...I heard the best idea the other day, in regards to replacing Bobby Meachem @ third base: "Why not replace Meachem with Madonna? She waves everybody home." Not a bad idea.
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Re: How bout them Yankees!? (2008)
[Re: Sicilian Babe]
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08/15/08 09:08 AM
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Manny cut those dreds?? Never happen. The man is a nightmare. He's a poor team player, to make an understatement. In this season alone, he took HIMSELF out of the lineup and attacked a member of his own team in the dugout. Unless Torre can work a miracle with him this summer, I wouldn't want him.
Abreu's been an important contributor this season. I wouldn't want to see him replaced with that sloppy pain in the ass. They don't need to shell out big money for another bat. Let them invest in some pitching instead. Manny is far from a nightmare. He's one of the top 5 hitters in the league, and future Hall of Famer. He'd be a great addition to the Bronx Zoo. I'd take him in a heartbeat, and hope Cashman does. Give me Manny over A-Rod in a big spot at the plate any day of the week. Incidentally, Abreu is absolute shit in the outfield, so I don't think you'd lose much. Nady is his replacement anyways. Abreu should be gone, he wants too much money and years for his age. While I wouldn't be adverse to seeing him come back, we desperately need to dump one of our DH's, and I suspect Giambi is the odd man out. We absolutely need to shell out money for another big bat. This lineup is so vastly overrated it's not even funny. This is the worst Yankee lineup I've seen with RiSP since I can remember watching as a kid in the early 90's. Things the Yankees need to address in the offseason: - A true leadoff hitter with a high OBP
- A true #3 hitter (Nady?)
- A decent-hitting first baseman who can play defense (Teixiera?)
- A player to protect A-Rod in the order (Manny?)
- Two *starting* pitchers (Sabathia and perhaps Sheets/Garland/Burnett/Wolf)
- Retain Molina
- Lose two from this list, preferably by trade or arbitration decline: Damon, Matsui, Giambi, Abreu
- Retain the core of the bullpen
Example of how much better the 2009 Yankees could be simply through FA acquisitions: Damon Jeter Teixiera Manny A-Rod Nady Posada Matsui/Giambi Cabrera Sabathia Wang Chamberlain 1 of: Sheets/Garland/Burnett/Wolf 1 of: Pettitte/Mussina Hughes
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Re: How bout them Yankees!? (2008)
[Re: Irishman12]
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08/15/08 09:20 AM
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I'm not worried about Boston this year. I think it'll be the Angels and the Cubs in the World Series and I'm pulling for Chicago! I thought you'd be rooting for the Mets if the Yanks were out of it? Keep your story straight. Shit, you're going to end up making me root for the Red Sox, just to see you go bald from stress even faster. And for the record, Manny is the most feared hitter in baseball. Yes, he's a jerk. And yes, A-Rod has the numbers. But in the clutch? It's not even worth arguing about.
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Re: How bout them Yankees!? (2008)
[Re: pizzaboy]
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08/15/08 09:30 AM
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I'm not worried about Boston this year. I think it'll be the Angels and the Cubs in the World Series and I'm pulling for Chicago! I thought you'd be rooting for the Mets if the Yanks were out of it? Keep your story straight. Shit, you're going to end up making me root for the Red Sox, just to see you go bald from stress even faster. And for the record, Manny is the most feared hitter in baseball. Yes, he's a jerk. And yes, A-Rod has the numbers. But in the clutch? It's not even worth arguing about. I am going for the Mets if the Yankees don't make it but the Mets have to make it first too And if there bullpen keeps costing them games, it'll be just as cold in Queens as it is in the Bronx. But I'd be happy to see this Chicago team lift the curse. So much was made about Boston that the White Sox were barely even noticed as 2005 World Series Champs. It's the Cubs turn now.
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Re: How bout them Yankees!? (2008)
[Re: Irishman12]
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08/15/08 09:32 AM
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I'm not worried about Boston this year. I think it'll be the Angels and the Cubs in the World Series and I'm pulling for Chicago! I thought you'd be rooting for the Mets if the Yanks were out of it? Keep your story straight. Shit, you're going to end up making me root for the Red Sox, just to see you go bald from stress even faster. And for the record, Manny is the most feared hitter in baseball. Yes, he's a jerk. And yes, A-Rod has the numbers. But in the clutch? It's not even worth arguing about. I am going for the Mets if the Yankees don't make it but the Mets have to make it first too And if there bullpen keeps costing them games, it'll be just as cold in Queens as it is in the Bronx. First place this morning, son.
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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Re: How bout them Yankees!? (2008)
[Re: Irishman12]
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08/15/08 09:35 AM
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Look at it this way. Hank's going to open up the warchest and go for Sabathia and another FA pitcher. Hopefully you're right. This is what I keep thinking of. If the Yankees lose enough, Steinbrenner will do something BIG in the offseason to prevent this from happening again in 2009. I hope they go after Yu Darvish from the Japanese league who they're claiming will be the next Dice-K. But yes, just pick him or CC up along with Teixeria and K-Rod and I'll be happy for 2009 I honest to God hope they stay away from Darvish because right now he's a pipe dream, and he has said he doesn't even want to come over here. We should learn from Igawa and Irabu - Japanese pitchers that can succeed in the West are rare. Dice-K looks like the obvious exception, and he may go the way of Nomo within another 2 seasons...the league figured out Nomo fairly quickly. Japanese league pitchers just don't seem the be able to adapt to MLB hitters. And K-Rod will not come to the Yankees, he wants to close, so he wouldn't sign with us. Meh, his delivery is a recipe for arm problems anyways, and he's building up some mileage on that frame of his. I'd be hesitant to sign him for a long-term deal beyond 3-4 years. On the plus side, Melancon in the ML is predicted to be the next "Joba" and is the anticipated closer. He dominates the ML just like Joba, and sacrifices a little less speed (still in the mid-90's) for more control. They're babying him like it's nobodies business. Otherwise, I'm pretty happy with the bullpen as constructed. Ramirez and Veras are developing nicely into two above-average relievers, Bruney when healthy should be fine, Giese has been terrific, Robertson looks like a stud, and anything they can get from Marte is a bonus. Mo is pitching like he's 26 years old. But yes, I agree, I think it is vital that the Yankees make a huge, perhaps unprecedented FA splash this offseason, with priorities in this order: 1.) Sabathia 2.) Manny 3.) Teixiera 4.) Sheets/Garland/Burnett/Wolf
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