A friend is having a gangster themed 21st party. One of my other mates wants to go as batman because he thinks batman fights gangsters and can therefore be included in the theme.

I disagree because batman doesn't have any gangster element to him and even if he does, he is a one man army and not apart of a gang.

Does anyone else have any thoughts as to whether or not this travesty should be allowed to occur?

Its definitly a tough one.. I think he very well could be included though. He does fight the gangsters, which to me gives a gangster element that you say is lacking.. I can definitly see what your saying but i just think that your friend might just have a point as well.

what kind of an argument is this?

its not a tough one at all, BATMAN is clearly involved in the gangsta theme as his whole existence is devoted to fighting them!!! that would be like saying that a casino has nothing to do with gangsta's!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Are you all the same person?

But batman fights crime, not just gangsters. One could argue that superman is in a gangster theme then too.

Like i said before its a bit of a stretch, but your were saying that there was no connection, when there is one. And going off the fact that superman fights gangsters as well, he would fit under the theme i think using the same principles.

I'm a little bit biased because it's half a battle between my mate and I and this is the way that we were to sort it out, by peoples opinion in a forum.

I can see the link but I didn't want to allow my mate to have any leverage in his arguement.

Does this allow too much choice in costumes that the party could lose its original gangster theme and turn more into a superhero theme? Not that there's anything wrong with that.

I don't think it loses the gangster flavour, as long as you still have majority gangsters.. I understand that it offers a lot of choice but not everyone will think about the superhero side of gangster theme let alone do something about it.. Obviously if everyone rocked up as a superhero then you might have a problem, but the way it sounded was that your friend was the only one thinking of doing it. Is this the case? Cos if so i think its ok.

I smell foul play, and it is also strange that the three people posting here (excluding Whisper) have sequential member numbers (i.e. 5117, 5118, and 5119)

I believe JG should run a IP address check

Not at all, and SB2 I think that fishy smell is you.

RICO predicates are mentioned in The Dark Knight. Gotham's biggest crime threat pre-Joker is the Mafia.

And you needn't create multiple memberships to address conflicting viewpoints in the same argument.

But these are peripheral features of the narrative; padding, so to speak.

"Gangsterism" is hardly a theme, though. Crime is a theme in the Batman universe - the character itself is a "Fighter of Crime", but it's not specific to organised crime, not in the way that GoodFellas is.

I'd say no.

(Look! Argument and counter-argument from the same poster!)

A travesty? Not at all. Batman isn't really a superhero, he's a masked vigilante, in my mind. I consider him in the same league as the anti-hero's of Sin City.

Plus, just look at his enemies. The Joker is a gangster for sure. Two-Face has been depicted as a gangster numerous times as well, despite his past as DA. It's arguable for the Penguin as well. Oh, and who remembers Scarface, the ventriloquist?

Then there are a handful of stories where Batman isn't even fighting his over-theatrical nemesis', he's just fighting plain old gangsters.

By the way, what's wrong with you people? You really want to end this? What the hell are we going to laugh at without schizophrenic posting?

And in regards to Nolan's revival of Batman, it has to be the most gangster-orientated superhero film around, as the mafia has had a very strong presence in both films so far.

I'll join the party before the thread gets locked

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Actually, any true party-goer knows it is cooler to spell it "KRUNK."

It's a matter of preference, man.

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