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Re: How bout them Yankees!? (2008)
[Re: dontomasso]
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08/15/08 12:07 PM
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How do those Yankees like sniffing Tampa Bay's ass? Ask Tampa. They've been doing it for the last 10 years. They should know by now. BTW - I forgot that the Rays have already won the World Series. I wouldn't be surprised if the injuries to Longoria and Crawford now allow Boston to snatch them up and take the division.
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Re: How bout them Yankees!? (2008)
[Re: Double-J]
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08/15/08 12:59 PM
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Well, thanks for keeping the seat warm for us. It must have gotten a little stale from sitting there for 11 years.
Still, it will be interesting to see what happens in the next month, Longoria and Crawford are cornerstones and out. Boston should catch them as long as their pitching stays healthy. Tampa does currently have winning records against Boston and LAA. I didn't keep the seat warm, I just didn't pat any attention. The only expectation they had this year was to finsh above .500, so anything better than that is a bonus. Next year was supposed to be the breakout year. I think the Yankees-Red Sox-Rays prettty much end the season playing a round robin. As for the Sox, I may be wrong on this but I think neither team has won an away game against the other. Looks like Crawford is gone for the season, but Longoria may be able to come back.
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Re: How bout them Yankees!? (2008)
[Re: pizzaboy]
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08/16/08 10:16 AM
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FYI---11 games out in the loss column this morning, 7 in the loss in the wild card. I'm not saying they can't do it (look at the Mets last year), but realistically, probably not.
Nah. If you watched last nights game vs. the Royals, it follows the old adage: bad teams find ways to lose games. That pretty much sums up the season.
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Re: How bout them Yankees!? (2008)
[Re: Double-J]
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08/16/08 10:28 AM
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Look at his stats in save situations vs. non-saves. He is a totally different pitcher when he has to keep it close than when he is shutting people down in the 9th inning. Well, to be fair, that's his job (the 9th inning). I mean, how much can you ask the guy for? He's at least 40 years old (although he claims to be 38 or 39), and he's still one of the top 5 closers in the game. Speaking of missing their set up man; how many net wins has the Jaba move cost them?
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Re: How bout them Yankees!? (2008)
[Re: Double-J]
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08/18/08 02:08 PM
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I told ya so  Steinbrenner willing to open walletIt was music to the ears of free agents, and their agents. With typical Steinbrennerian certitude, new New York Yankees owner Hank Steinbrenner indicated his team is ready to open its wallet in the offseason, especially if the current downturn is not corrected and the team misses the playoffs for the first time since 1995. "We're going to win it next year," Steinbrenner said. "If we need to add a top veteran pitcher, we'll do that. We'll do whatever we need to do. Next year we'll be extremely dangerous." CC Sabathia looks like the best starter in the free-agent market that includes Derek Lowe, Brad Penny and Ben Sheets next winter, and his price appears to keep shooting up as he pitches Milwaukee toward the playoffs. Then there is Adam Dunn, who seems perfect for Yankee Stadium. Bobby Abreu's contract is up after this year, Jason Giambi is owed a $22 million option the Yankees seem unlikely to pick up, and Hideki Matsui and Johnny Damon will be in the last year of contracts in 2009. With all that left-handed power leaving, it seems like a hole Dunn could plug. Source: SI
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Re: How bout them Yankees!? (2008)
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08/18/08 03:36 PM
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Don't forget, George had it planned that Swindal,his drunken son-in-law, was going to run the team before his own flesh and blood. I think he realized his son had some shortcomings.
Let's not rewrite history. Swindal had his DWI and also had marital issues with Jennifer Steinbrenner, which is why he was "out." It wasn't like a crazy drunk was given the reigns, or that he was drunk beforehand. People make mistakes. Similarly, the Steinbrenner brothers didn't want to take part in baseball operations. Actually, I'm glad that Hal is there, as he seems to balance Hank out. They've poured big bucks on Giambi, Mussina, Sheffield, Randy Johnson and A-Rod and that didn't work out the way they had planned. Giambi has been productive but injured. Sheffield was also productive. Johnson was also injured, but he did have a bunch of wins. A-Rod has been MVP. Out of all of them, I don't know how you can say Mussina hasn't worked out - since acquired, he has been absolutely fantastic, carrying the rotation at times. The difference between signing guys like Sabathia and Teixiera is that a.) they are still young enough so that they will not be in a Giambi situation when they're contracts are up and b.) these players will be signed at their peaks, not after they have exhausted the 'magic'. Manny is the only question mark. First, the Dodgers will have to decline their option years on him. Second, Manny will want a monster deal, but I say give it to him. We're cutting a whole lot of dead weight (and payroll) off of this team by waving goodbye to Giambi, 1 of Pettitte/Mussina, Pavano, trading 1 of Matsui or Damon, and Abreu. Heck, as you know, I didn't want to resign Posada either, but meh. That alone will not only create roster space, it means there is more flexibility in the war chest. Frankly, Sabathia/Teixiera (or Burrell, frankly)/Manny is much more viable than Johnson/Giambi/Sheffield ever were simply because of their ages and current talent levels. Adding Sabathia means we will finally have an elite pitcher (two if Joba continues to pan out), with Wang a notch below. Adding Teixiera means we've solved the problem at first base, as he's young and hits like a champ (he doesn't have to be a silver slugger). Adding Manny means we have arguably the most dangerous hitter in league in the heart of our order. You can't tell me that the below roster wouldn't have a little more "punch" than what we've had this year: Damon/Gardner/Christian Jeter Nady Manny A-Rod Teixiera Posada Cano Melky/Gardner/Christian Also, another name I'd honestly be interested in as a sort of "freak" candidate is Rocco Baldelli. If he ever sorts our his medical issues - and apparently, he does have some whacked out things going on with his body - he's young enough and the Yankees have enough CF candidates where giving Baldelli a minor league contract would be low-risk high-reward.
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Re: How bout them Yankees!? (2008)
[Re: Double-J]
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08/18/08 05:57 PM
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pizzaboy
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Don't forget, George had it planned that Swindal,his drunken son-in-law, was going to run the team before his own flesh and blood. I think he realized his son had some shortcomings.
People make mistakes. Wow! Who knew that deep down DJ had the forgiving heart of a liberal? 
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Re: How bout them Yankees!? (2008)
[Re: Double-J]
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08/18/08 07:09 PM
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Giambi has been productive but injured. Sheffield was also productive. Johnson was also injured, but he did have a bunch of wins. A-Rod has been MVP. Out of all of them, I don't know how you can say Mussina hasn't worked out - since acquired, he has been absolutely fantastic, carrying the rotation at times.
Giambi wasn't given a hundred million dollars merely to be productive. He was a league MVP in 1999 and drove in 120 runs with a .342 avg. for a small market team not known for offense, and signed by a team that had just won three consecutive championships that was expecting more. And since then, the Yankees haven't won a championship and Giambi hasn't sniffed an MVP. In fact midway through his contract, as Giambi hadn't sniffed .300 since his first year in the Bronx, the very guy who signed him amid all types of hype was looking for technicalities to jettison him from NY. Sure, ARod has been an MVP. He was MVP before he came to NY. He wasn't brought in to help them get to the playoffs (or bed strippers and aging pop stars); the Yankees were more than capable of getting to the post season before he arrived. Sure, he should win MVPs in NY, surrounded by a loaded offense. What didn't work out for the Yankees is the fact that he'd be a deer in the headlights during the postseason (Hey, Scott Brosius won a WS MVP). Mussina has had a nice career in NY, but please, re-read my post. I never said he didn't work out; I said the big dollar signings didn't work out the way they had planned. I didn't even mention Hideki Irabu, Kei Igawa and some others. My point is that this decade there has always been hype and spectacle about all of these signings and it hasn't been nearly as successful as the days of far less heralded players, like Paul O'Neill, Tino Martinez, Bernie Williams and Jim Leyritz.
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